Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Oct 7, 2012
 
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There’s always opposition to Jewish history.
The most hated people in all the world just because of their recorded history and belief in the One True God.
Information against pre War World II Jewish history can’t be trusted. Even in these times there’s people making claims there wasn’t even a holocaust.
I'm not disputing the Holocaust. Additionally, even Judaic scholars recognize that the "Exodus", has no proof outside of biblical mention.

The Ipuwer Papyrus is agreed to have been written, based upon references within the Papyrus to initially as early as the First Intermediate Period 2181-2055 BCE , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Intermedia... , and no later than , 13th Dynasty or Dynasty XIII was which was from approximately 1802 BCE until ca. 1649 BCE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Dynas...

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Intelligence doesn't make you smart. The evidence is is here. Memorized scriptures being spit out void of Spirit, and highly educated people claiming that theirs' is the voice of reason yet can't express themselves without insults and right hooks. Your words echo hateful and stupid.

I'm out of here.

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I'm not disputing the Holocaust. Additionally, even Judaic scholars recognize that the "Exodus", has no proof outside of biblical mention.
The Ipuwer Papyrus is agreed to have been written, based upon references within the Papyrus to initially as early as the First Intermediate Period 2181-2055 BCE , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Intermedia... , and no later than , 13th Dynasty or Dynasty XIII was which was from approximately 1802 BCE until ca. 1649 BCE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Dynas...
National Lampoon's Exodus.

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How long will it be before the US becomes a basket case and the laughing stock of the world.
As long as we can keep Dave over here , and not talking over there too much. It really doesn't have to happen!

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Televangelism starting in the 70's. Pat Robertson and crowd.
The primary support of Israel was the liberal Democrats up until Jimmy Carter and the Camp David accords, with a backlash by the liberals against treatment of the Palestians. Israel's rightwing was in trouble. Then up pops the televangelists on the media, very much Christian Zionists, who became very Republican and hawkish about total support for Israel. Prior to this Republicans were not known for being big fans of Israel.
I've witnessed the changes myself.
Funny coincidence, isn't it?
.. thanks. Very interesting ..

.. are you certain of this? Can you provide a link ??..

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Intelligence doesn't make you smart. The evidence is is here. Memorized scriptures being spit out void of Spirit, and highly educated people claiming that theirs' is the voice of reason yet can't express themselves without insults and right hooks. Your words echo hateful and stupid.
I'm out of here.
Another well-adjusted person leaves...

Oh, well, back to the fray with arguing with the uneducated, ignorant religious who believe their ignorance can support a belief system.

Wait! Wait! Modernhippie, take me with you!

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Oct 7, 2012
 
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Georgia is actually a pretty progressive state.
Only certain portions are, Dave. The differences between southern Georgia, middle Georgia and northern Georgia are extreme and varied.

I'm from there, and grew up there.

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Republicans, conservatives, are very hawkish in support of Israel, yes.
.. what a coincidence! So is the Religious Right ..
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But make no mistake--there's plenty of anti-semitism among the mainstream American Christian populace.
.. what a coincidence! They're not part of the Religious Right ..
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<quoted text>Let's ask some of our folks on these threads what they think of Jews.
.. some Jewish women are hot but many are JAPS (not Japanese term). On a scale of 1-10, I'd rate Jewish women as 5-6 ..

.. Jewish men? Well, they're just men. Who cares what anyone thinks of them ??..

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Tomorrow, Columbus Day is observed in some places in the U.S. In California, public offices are closed.

So here's the question: Should Columbus Day be recognized? Were he and his explorers good people who should be celebrated today? Were there good or bad consequences from their discovery/colonization?

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.. it's funny how Christians now embrace Jews after thousands of years of persecution ..
.. why is that ??..
It's funny how you care to even ask, not believing in God and all.

Why is it that atheists talk more about God than any group of people the earth has ever habituated?

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Tomorrow, Columbus Day is observed in some places in the U.S. In California, public offices are closed.
So here's the question: Should Columbus Day be recognized? Were he and his explorers good people who should be celebrated today? Were there good or bad consequences from their discovery/colonization?
Well then we would need a Leif Ericson day and a Louis and Clark Day, a St Augustine Day you know what I mean?

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Tomorrow, Columbus Day is observed in some places in the U.S. In California, public offices are closed.
So here's the question: Should Columbus Day be recognized? Were he and his explorers good people who should be celebrated today? Were there good or bad consequences from their discovery/colonization?
If they were good people, then they were Christians. If they were Christians, then we should celebrate it. But since you are an atheist and you hate good people, you should be working as an act of your rebellion against good people. You should be working 7 days a week.....no rest for the unbelievers. You can't be good without God, and you don't want to be good.

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Catcher1 wrote:
Tomorrow, Columbus Day is observed in some places in the U.S. In California, public offices are closed.
So here's the question: Should Columbus Day be recognized? Were he and his explorers good people who should be celebrated today? Were there good or bad consequences from their discovery/colonization?
You think my bank will be closed? I hope not.

Who gives a shit about Columbus? I don't. If we need some filler holidays, I have some suggestions.
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Obamacare Alternative:

The alternative to Obamacare; demands complying with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide health care; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

Obamacare holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

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And pay the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of prescription drugs and every product and service needed to provide Obamacare. With money derived from wages (union contract) investment and independent business profit.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes health care UNAFFORDABLE; Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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.. thanks. Very interesting ..
.. are you certain of this? Can you provide a link ??..
Certain as can be.

When sympathy for the Palestinians started to arise, the hawks over there went to Plan B. Before then, if anyone expressed such a thing, they were labeled anti-Semitic.

In 7th grade I had a social studies teacher, his name was R. H. Kite. A very rabid Zionist Jew of the time. Every day he would make remarks about dirty filth Arabs, how they should be killed, and other politically correct things. Every day. With three children of Arab descent sitting in the classroom. He was never disciplined or told to shut up. These were the Kennedy and Johnson years in American history.

I put a grass snake in the tack box of his desk one day, then asked him for a tack. Him and his chair went back a few feet and he hit his head on the blackboard. He was a good sport about that. I didn't suffer for it.

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You think my bank will be closed? I hope not.
Who gives a shit about Columbus? I don't. If we need some filler holidays, I have some suggestions.
Hey, let's open the floor to nominations for holidays.

I'll start: April 15, Leonardo da Vinci's birthday, which also falls on income tax day.

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It's funny how you care to even ask, not believing in God and all.
Why is it that atheists talk more about God than any group of people the earth has ever habituated?
None of my atheist friends talk about deities. They think it's stupid that I come on here to bother with ignorant, uninformed people who despise the wonderful variety of human cultural expression and belief like yourself.

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Only certain portions are, Dave. The differences between southern Georgia, middle Georgia and northern Georgia are extreme and varied.
I'm from there, and grew up there.
You get that in neighborhoods of big cities.

Georgia came a long ways fast.

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<quoted text>More lineal thinking on atheists part.
According to astronomical observations, galaxies like our own experience about one supernova (a violently-exploding star) every 25 years. The gas and dust remnants from such explosions (like the Crab Nebula) expand outward rapidly and should remain visible for over a million years. Yet the nearby parts of our galaxy in which we could observe such gas and dust shells contain only about 200 supernova remnants. That number is consistent with only about 7,000 years worth of supernovas.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2005...
That did not answer the question I asked.

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