Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#128144 Oct 6, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Your argument was a joke. Screaming at me "it's scripture!" as if that carries some weight is laughable on so many levels.
Your veiled threat here is nice, though. I will. I one day will put that on my resume.
<quoted text>
Coward - I name you coward for writing this.
Welcome to the world of lightbeamrider, where everything is a conspiracy designed to obscure the bible unless it supports his own view 100%. There is no amount of information or legitimate science you can present to him that will change his position that conspiracies are everywhere.

Christian scholars are in on it. Scholars from places such as Harvard and other universities are in on it, scientists, the !NWO!, and everyone is in on it, unless...

They support lightbeamrider's views.

At that point, it doesn't matter if a scholar has received a PhD in 6 months at the Wiley Coyote Institute, as long as he supports lightbeamrider's view.

All others are inferior, revisionist, and !BLASPHEMERS!

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#128145 Oct 6, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Because everyone is wrong until they agree with you.
No.

What you see me doing is reacting to shrieking nut cases that don't stop to consider what I say. Legitimate and considered disagreement is constructive.

Beating up on those idiots is recreation.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#128146 Oct 6, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Just give us some string, magnets, a rubber chicken, a plunger, a copy of hustler and a quart of whiskey out in the garage and we'll come up with your insanity as well.
<quoted text>
Us?

Got a gerbil up your ass?

You and your friend don't need those enhancements.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#128147 Oct 6, 2012
Dave it would be cool if you set up a camera in your garage while doing your experiments. Be sure to spend lots of time in front of the camera doddering on how they work.

Pure YouTube gold!
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
"Experimentation and observation coupled with the collection of evidence is sheer magic at work."
It's the interpretation of those observations and experimentation that is correct or not. A false interpretation can result, and does, in improper experiments.
Not all educated scientists see things the same way.
You ain't thinking, you is following the herd.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#128148 Oct 6, 2012
Just had a thought of how some of the posters on here would be like two ventriloquist dummies.

One calls the other A dummy.

The other says no, you are a dummy.

Am not, YOU ARE A DUMMY!

LIAR, YOU ARE THE DUMMY!

YOU ARE THE LIAR, YOU DUMMY!!

IF YOU AREN'T A DUMMY THEN YOU ARE TOO DUMB TO BE A DUMMY!

DON'T CALL ME A DUMMY YOU DUMBASS!!!

This goes on for a while. Then they both turn to the ventriloquist and demand him to decide who is right.

The ventriloquist looks at the audience and asks "Who is right and who is the dummy?".

The audience calls back in unison.

They are both right. They are both dummies.

Goodnight, Topix atheists.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#128149 Oct 6, 2012
Are you still projecting this nonsense? Rotflmfao you were already humiliated with this!

So a tiny horse size of a locust, gold crown on it's head, Scorpion tail, face of a man like a centaur, Lon womanly hair and sharp teeth in it's mouth, wearing breastplates like ancient soldiers looks like a helicopter? What drugs are you taking?
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is some more laughs for you!
You claim the bible was written by goat herders.
1) those goat herders had this to say straight to you from 2000 years ago!
Deuteronomy 5:9
English Standard Version (ESV)
"You shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me"
2) And the shapes [or "resemblance"] of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men
That goat herder is describing a modern era HELICOPTER
Not bad for a goat herder from 2000 years ago but there's more.
3) That I will cause the flesh to fall from their bones before their body can hit the ground, and their eyes shall melt in their sockets and their tongue in their mouth.(Zechariah 14:12)
These goat herders from 2000 years ago are describing Nuclear War or at least a big bomb. A bomb that the goat herders could not foresee 2000 years ago.
Pretty funny right?

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#128150 Oct 6, 2012
Let dry ground appear? Sigh I hope your work at Burger King doesn't require random drug screens because if they do you are so screwed!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You know what's also strange that the "bronze age goat herders" knew? Pangea.
It's right there in Genesis 1:9.
How could Moses know that?
hmmm
Loren Eberly

Marysville, OH

#128151 Oct 6, 2012
Family Budget:

Family budget demands; Every Farmer, Parent, Union worker, consumer, taxpayer, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employee, Teacher, Veteran, Police, Firemen, and Father disqualified for affirmative action with white skin; Complies with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

This eliminates need for Government to grant Wayne County Commissioner husband $660,000; and every farm family member to get an off-farm Union job.

And hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Farmers need to produce food and fiber and Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
OnlineShopping

Wilmington, DE

#128152 Oct 6, 2012
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Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#128153 Oct 6, 2012
Actually that sounds more like the writer didn't know about the ocean and thought all there was was maybe a lake or something.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Oh, G_O_D....
If the water is "gathered into one place", logic would say that the land is also "gathered into one place"....
Do I have to spell out everything for you?
A "bronze age goat herder" knew that. How??

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#128154 Oct 6, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
River, you're growing on me.
Really? Don't worry, I won't leave a stain.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#128155 Oct 6, 2012
Yes us Dave all the people on this forum who are laughing at your dithering. Trust me that's a dozen at least.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Us?
Got a gerbil up your ass?
You and your friend don't need those enhancements.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#128156 Oct 6, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Are you still projecting this nonsense? Rotflmfao you were already humiliated with this!
So a tiny horse size of a locust, gold crown on it's head, Scorpion tail, face of a man like a centaur, Lon womanly hair and sharp teeth in it's mouth, wearing breastplates like ancient soldiers looks like a helicopter? What drugs are you taking?
<quoted text>
You need the Magic Ghost Decoder Ring to read the Bible "correctly". ROFLMAO

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#128157 Oct 6, 2012
Or some damn expensive illicit street drugs! Talking Pink Floyd recording studio comfortably numb illicit.
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
You need the Magic Ghost Decoder Ring to read the Bible "correctly". ROFLMAO

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#128160 Oct 7, 2012
http://christwire.org/2012/07/jesus-christ-ap...

Jesus appears on a dog's Christhole!

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#128163 Oct 7, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I just finished reading that article you posted - it's interesting and presents a thoughtful perspective from the "Bible is accurate"
That is not what i expected. Thank you for taking the time and reading the article.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128164 Oct 7, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Oh, I don't deny that some Israelites were likely held as slaves by the Ancient Egyptians, but I deny that the Bible is 100% historically accurate.
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Reductionist. Like saying i don't deny some Jews were killed in the holocaust but the numbers are way overblown.
No, it's not like that at all. The Bible is a mythology. It's not divinely inspired, no miracles happened, they're all fantasy for believers like you.

You believe in the Bible so for you it's literally true - or so you are claiming here. You said you didn't believe it was literally true a while back. So, which is it? Are you shockingly, religiously naive or can you admit that the Bible is not divinely inspired?
That is the opinion of one person quoted in the article.
Hey, it was your article. Even they aren't taking Exodus at its literal translation - that should tell you something.
Read Exodus 1-2.
Post it or a link and I will.
It is not all about you.
No, Exodus is mostly about a fictional past. A story to unify a people. These kinds of things are not uncommon.
Oh, some parts of the Bible have some historical truths in them.
<quoted text from Hiding:>Yet you have to be careful about accepting it as accurate - it's a book that is designed to promote a cultural identity for the Jews. Several different versions were stitched together by an editor hundreds of years after the events described - and he altered them. We know this, Bible scholars know this - and here you are claiming it's 100% accurate???
You are overstating the case. Name some parts that were stitched together.
Hardly. Exodus is one such story acknowledged to be stitched together. Genesis, too.

The poster G_O_D knows waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more about this than I ever will - more than you, too. He could teach you, if you would listen.
There are factual mistakes in the New. I will not point them out to you.
Don't shy from the truth. It demeans you.
What is your limitation? Don't answer that. They come across as obvious anyway.
Mine? Quite a lot, actually. But you claim to know, so no worries. Can you recommend any solutions?

:p
;p
:P

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128165 Oct 7, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>"Hardened atheists." Lol. Funny term.
So, you are here solely to selflessly offer your services to the defense of your belief against the lying, hardened atheists?
And sorry if changing minds was the wrong term. Perhaps I should have said if you want people to take you seriously, stop citing scripture.
Back in atheist prison, it was so rough...

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128166 Oct 7, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I was wondering when Dave and LightBeam would become bedfellows.
Moonbeam <3 Lightbeam

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128167 Oct 7, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome to the world of lightbeamrider, where everything is a conspiracy designed to obscure the bible unless it supports his own view 100%. There is no amount of information or legitimate science you can present to him that will change his position that conspiracies are everywhere.
Christian scholars are in on it. Scholars from places such as Harvard and other universities are in on it, scientists, the !NWO!, and everyone is in on it, unless...
They support lightbeamrider's views.
At that point, it doesn't matter if a scholar has received a PhD in 6 months at the Wiley Coyote Institute, as long as he supports lightbeamrider's view.
All others are inferior, revisionist, and !BLASPHEMERS!
Ah, is that how he works. He has simultaneously claimed that the Bible must be taken literally while acknowledging it has factual errors in it.

Meh. He's welcome to believe whatever he wants to believe.

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