Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Oct 6, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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They are not capable of seeing how their passion and zeal in denouncing religion displays their irrationality. They don't understand it is that fanaticism which makes them so unlovable, not their personal belief for or against. There is no gray in their views. If you are theist or deistic, you are automatically a creationist. Snarl, snap, snap. No rational discussion with them. Absent the religion, they will find something else to snarl and snap against. It ain't the message, it's the messengers with the problem.
I was wondering when Dave and LightBeam would become bedfellows.

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Oct 6, 2012
 
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> There were at least 10 judgements after the Israelites left Egypt. In Joshua the people who entered were the next generation along with Joshua and Calab. Even Moses died off. I don't know, off hand if there is a number count in Joshua.
Say hi to Calab for me.

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Not well enough evidently. Did you read that link I posted a little while ago?
Because everyone is wrong until they agree with you.

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Lulz! Epic win! Thanks and btw I will be using these :)
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Sometimes, it takes a little sophistication to understand what you are seeing:
An Amish boy and his father were visiting a mall. They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but especially by two shiny silver walls that could move apart and back together again.
The boy asked his father, "What is this father?" The father, having never seen an elevator, responded, "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life. I don't know what it is!"
While the boy and his father were watching wide-eyed, an old lady in a wheel chair rolled up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady rolled between them into a small room. The walls closed and the boy and his father watched small circles of light with numbers above the wall light up. They continued to watch the circles light up in the reverse direction. The walls opened up again and a beautiful 24-year-old woman stepped out.
The man said to his son, "Go get your mother!"
========== I opened my favorite jokes file for that. Here's a few more:
(30) The captain of a commercial jet made an announcement over the cabin's PA system informing the passengers that the Grand Canyon was now visible out of the left side of the airplane.
He set his hand set down, not realizing that the voice activation button was still depressed, and that he was still broadcasting to the cabin. He turned to his copilot, and jokingly commented that he could sure use a cup of coffee and a blow job about then. Everybody in the cabin heard him.
In horror, the stewardess began running toward the cockpit to apprise the captain of the situation. As she runs past him, a passenger on the aisle shouts, "Don't forget the coffee!"
(33) A woman has the images of her favorite sex symbols - Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise - tattooed to the insides of her thighs. When the artist is finished, the woman looks down and expresses her dismay at the poor job that he has done.
The artist points out that she is in no position to judge his work, since she is seeing it upside down. So they agree to let a third party – the first one to walk by the tattoo shop - be the final arbiter.
That just happens to be a street drunk, who is stumbling by at that moment. They beckon the drunk enter, and to please try to identify the celebrities between the woman’s legs. He agrees.
After a few seconds of staring, reeling, and squinting the drunk announces,“I can't say who the two on the ends are, but the one in the middle is the spittin’ image of Willie Nelson.”
(33) My neighbor discovered that her pet schnauzer could hardly hear, so she took it to the veterinarian. The poor dog’s ear hairs were all tangled and matted, so the vet cleaned them both out, and the dog could hear fine. He told the lady that if she wanted to keep this from reoccurring she should go to the store and get some Nair, a hair remover, and rub in its ears once a month.
The lady goes to the drug store as instructed to get some Nair for her dog. At the register, the druggist tells her, "If you're going to use this under your arms, don't use deodorant for a few days."
The lady says, "I'm not using it under my arms."
The druggist says, "Well then, if you're going to be using it on your legs, I recommend that you not wear hose for a few days."
The lady says, "I'm not using it on my legs either. If you must know, I'm using it on my schnauzer."
The druggist then says, "In that case, lady, you should probably stay off your bicycle for a few days.”

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Just give us some string, magnets, a rubber chicken, a plunger, a copy of hustler and a quart of whiskey out in the garage and we'll come up with your insanity as well.
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Funny coming from a guy whose only reality is from the books he reads.
That is how it flows, and the origination of it. On a physical basis.
Give us a physical description the way you KNOW it without the numbers and references to equations and theories, etc.
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#128143
Oct 6, 2012
 
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>So shallow, Dave. I would have thought that a trail blazer like yourself would be open to whatever form god chose for me.
I go by what form a god would choose for me. If it was outside my programming, it would have to let me know. I will not second guess it.

Besides, soft tails are more comfy than hard tails.

“The eye has it...”

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Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Your argument was a joke. Screaming at me "it's scripture!" as if that carries some weight is laughable on so many levels.
Your veiled threat here is nice, though. I will. I one day will put that on my resume.
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Coward - I name you coward for writing this.
Welcome to the world of lightbeamrider, where everything is a conspiracy designed to obscure the bible unless it supports his own view 100%. There is no amount of information or legitimate science you can present to him that will change his position that conspiracies are everywhere.

Christian scholars are in on it. Scholars from places such as Harvard and other universities are in on it, scientists, the !NWO!, and everyone is in on it, unless...

They support lightbeamrider's views.

At that point, it doesn't matter if a scholar has received a PhD in 6 months at the Wiley Coyote Institute, as long as he supports lightbeamrider's view.

All others are inferior, revisionist, and !BLASPHEMERS!

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Oct 6, 2012
 
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Because everyone is wrong until they agree with you.
No.

What you see me doing is reacting to shrieking nut cases that don't stop to consider what I say. Legitimate and considered disagreement is constructive.

Beating up on those idiots is recreation.

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Oct 6, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Just give us some string, magnets, a rubber chicken, a plunger, a copy of hustler and a quart of whiskey out in the garage and we'll come up with your insanity as well.
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Us?

Got a gerbil up your ass?

You and your friend don't need those enhancements.

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#128147
Oct 6, 2012
 
Dave it would be cool if you set up a camera in your garage while doing your experiments. Be sure to spend lots of time in front of the camera doddering on how they work.

Pure YouTube gold!
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"Experimentation and observation coupled with the collection of evidence is sheer magic at work."
It's the interpretation of those observations and experimentation that is correct or not. A false interpretation can result, and does, in improper experiments.
Not all educated scientists see things the same way.
You ain't thinking, you is following the herd.

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Just had a thought of how some of the posters on here would be like two ventriloquist dummies.

One calls the other A dummy.

The other says no, you are a dummy.

Am not, YOU ARE A DUMMY!

LIAR, YOU ARE THE DUMMY!

YOU ARE THE LIAR, YOU DUMMY!!

IF YOU AREN'T A DUMMY THEN YOU ARE TOO DUMB TO BE A DUMMY!

DON'T CALL ME A DUMMY YOU DUMBASS!!!

This goes on for a while. Then they both turn to the ventriloquist and demand him to decide who is right.

The ventriloquist looks at the audience and asks "Who is right and who is the dummy?".

The audience calls back in unison.

They are both right. They are both dummies.

Goodnight, Topix atheists.

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Oct 6, 2012
 
Are you still projecting this nonsense? Rotflmfao you were already humiliated with this!

So a tiny horse size of a locust, gold crown on it's head, Scorpion tail, face of a man like a centaur, Lon womanly hair and sharp teeth in it's mouth, wearing breastplates like ancient soldiers looks like a helicopter? What drugs are you taking?
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Here is some more laughs for you!
You claim the bible was written by goat herders.
1) those goat herders had this to say straight to you from 2000 years ago!
Deuteronomy 5:9
English Standard Version (ESV)
"You shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me"
2) And the shapes [or "resemblance"] of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men
That goat herder is describing a modern era HELICOPTER
Not bad for a goat herder from 2000 years ago but there's more.
3) That I will cause the flesh to fall from their bones before their body can hit the ground, and their eyes shall melt in their sockets and their tongue in their mouth.(Zechariah 14:12)
These goat herders from 2000 years ago are describing Nuclear War or at least a big bomb. A bomb that the goat herders could not foresee 2000 years ago.
Pretty funny right?

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#128150
Oct 6, 2012
 
Let dry ground appear? Sigh I hope your work at Burger King doesn't require random drug screens because if they do you are so screwed!
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You know what's also strange that the "bronze age goat herders" knew? Pangea.
It's right there in Genesis 1:9.
How could Moses know that?
hmmm
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Family Budget:

Family budget demands; Every Farmer, Parent, Union worker, consumer, taxpayer, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employee, Teacher, Veteran, Police, Firemen, and Father disqualified for affirmative action with white skin; Complies with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

This eliminates need for Government to grant Wayne County Commissioner husband $660,000; and every farm family member to get an off-farm Union job.

And hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Farmers need to produce food and fiber and Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
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World Top Online Exclusive Electronics Shop 2012/2013 - GadGetMega.Com

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#128153
Oct 6, 2012
 
Actually that sounds more like the writer didn't know about the ocean and thought all there was was maybe a lake or something.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Oh, G_O_D....
If the water is "gathered into one place", logic would say that the land is also "gathered into one place"....
Do I have to spell out everything for you?
A "bronze age goat herder" knew that. How??

“Michin yeoja”

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Hidingfromyou wrote:
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River, you're growing on me.
Really? Don't worry, I won't leave a stain.

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#128155
Oct 6, 2012
 
Yes us Dave all the people on this forum who are laughing at your dithering. Trust me that's a dozen at least.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Us?
Got a gerbil up your ass?
You and your friend don't need those enhancements.

“Love much, trust none”

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Givemeliberty wrote:
Are you still projecting this nonsense? Rotflmfao you were already humiliated with this!
So a tiny horse size of a locust, gold crown on it's head, Scorpion tail, face of a man like a centaur, Lon womanly hair and sharp teeth in it's mouth, wearing breastplates like ancient soldiers looks like a helicopter? What drugs are you taking?
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You need the Magic Ghost Decoder Ring to read the Bible "correctly". ROFLMAO

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Or some damn expensive illicit street drugs! Talking Pink Floyd recording studio comfortably numb illicit.
G_O_D wrote:
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You need the Magic Ghost Decoder Ring to read the Bible "correctly". ROFLMAO

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