Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#128042 Oct 6, 2012
You know what's also strange that the "bronze age goat herders" knew? Pangea.
It's right there in Genesis 1:9.
How could Moses know that?
hmmm

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#128044 Oct 6, 2012
http://gizmodo.com/5948833/scientists-dont-ev...

Synchronicity at work.

This is a hoot. Imagine how much in the other sciences. That hasn't been exposed.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#128046 Oct 6, 2012
Regarding to the story of the Exodus.

{Absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence}

J. Edgar Hoover the first director of the FBI. He was an iconic figure in American History. Hoover believed that knowledge and information was power.

It is widely believed he used investigative powers of the FBI to spy on powerful Americans. Keeping secret files with some rather embarrassing personal and private information on citizens, including Presidents.

In the movie,“J. Egar,” after he died the President ordered a search of Hoovers office for the secret files believed stored there. Hardly anything was recovered. Was the evidence destroyed? Or was there never any evidence?

Historians believe he did have spies digging for personal information to be used in blackmail if need be. Back to the Exodus story. Because there is no evidence or little evidence doesn’t mean evidence of absence.

As we have mentioned before there are all sorts of reasons why not to reveal or expose evidence of the Biblical story of the Exodus. Most of the reasons are political by nature and Egypt’s national pride.

Wiki:

John Edgar Hoover (January 1, 1895 – May 2, 1972) was the first Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) of the United States. Appointed director of the Bureau of Investigation—predecessor to the FBI—in 1924, he was instrumental in founding the FBI in 1935, where he remained director until his death in 1972 aged 77. Hoover is credited with building the FBI into a large and efficient crime-fighting agency, and with instituting a number of modernizations to police technology, such as a centralized fingerprint file and forensic laboratories.

Late in life and after his death Hoover became a controversial figure, as evidence of his secretive actions became known. His critics have accused him of exceeding the jurisdiction of the FBI. He used the FBI to harass political dissenters and activists, to amass secret files on political leaders, and to collect evidence using illegal methods. Hoover consequently amassed a great deal of power. Said one journalist in the 1960s, "Hoover does not have to exert pressure, he is pressure".

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#128048 Oct 6, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You wouldn't know it.
You can't prove it. You can disprove it by stopping every thing moving.
Then you wouldn't observing a thing.
Pure conjecture.
Faith based. Scientific fail.
Absolutely not, it is based on relativistic equation.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#128049 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You know what's also strange that the "bronze age goat herders" knew? Pangea.
It's right there in Genesis 1:9.
How could Moses know that?
hmmm
"And God said,“Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so." Genesis 1:9

WOW! God evaporates a mud puddle!

ROFLMAO

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#128050 Oct 6, 2012
http://scitechdaily.com/scientists-explore-ho...

"This observation was completely unexpected, "

Speaking of synchronicity.

EM. Read about its universal potentials.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#128051 Oct 6, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Absolutely not, it is based on relativistic equation.
Amusing.

It is pure conjecture.

Hurry, go grab your relativistic beads. Maybe Einstein will appear and you can talk about it.

Since: Sep 10

San Clemente, CA

#128052 Oct 6, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
Regarding to the story of the Exodus.
This is not a sentence.

Can you tell what's missing?

Geez dude!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#128053 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Exactly....
None of you atheists can prove a black hole OR dark matter.
But you allow them to "explain" the unexplainable....
Atheism DOES require faith.
Exactly! It is pure blind faith! They have never proved anything! NEVER! But we follow blindly, just because we don't what to listen to your gods.

“Ditat Deus”

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#128054 Oct 6, 2012
Lol, Dave. Nice link.
Really, I'm not sure if coffee or chocolate is good for me or if they cause cancer. It does seem that every other day a new scientific "study" is telling me something different....

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#128055 Oct 6, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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We don't know its composition. We do know locations, though.
<quoted text>
Black holes are not part of the dark matter. That is one aspect that we do know (if it were, the effects on the background radiation would be quite different).


http://phys.org/news/2011-12-nasa-satellite-r...

“Ditat Deus”

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#128056 Oct 6, 2012
Oh, G_O_D....
If the water is "gathered into one place", logic would say that the land is also "gathered into one place"....
Do I have to spell out everything for you?
A "bronze age goat herder" knew that. How??

“ Woodstock Anyone?”

Since: Oct 12

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#128057 Oct 6, 2012
Belief in anything without proof is faith. The closest thing to proof, has become new captures with new equipment by paranormal investigators. Believe them or not, it's still closer to proof than an atheistic philosophy.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#128064 Oct 6, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is not a sentence.
Can you tell what's missing?
Geez dude!
It's not?

Oh, I get it!!

"This" is a pronoun, not a sentence.

Or did you blow it and mean "that"?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#128065 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Oh, G_O_D....
If the water is "gathered into one place", logic would say that the land is also "gathered into one place"....
Do I have to spell out everything for you?
A "bronze age goat herder" knew that. How??
You have one of the greatest minds of the 21st century BC.

Please continue polishing your crook.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#128066 Oct 6, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>So, what is under the water in the sea, ocean or a lake? Ground, the difference is dry or wet and guess what, water makes ground wet.
Yep. They twist a nice myth into a useless pile of crap.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128067 Oct 6, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. and, still, Mormonism is the fastest growing faith in the world ..
.. they have great CEOs, a well organized staff and magnificent temples ..
.. and when you die, you rule your very own planet with your spouse, children and dog ..
"Heaven, I'm in Heaven,
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak;
And I seem to find the happiness I seek
When we're out together dancing, cheek to cheek."
Wow, I'm totally becoming Mormon then!

What're the drawbacks?

Since: Sep 10

San Clemente, CA

#128068 Oct 6, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not?
Oh, I get it!!
"This" is a pronoun, not a sentence.
Or did you blow it and mean "that"?
You blew it.

What else is new?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128069 Oct 6, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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Black holes are proven in the sense that there are compact gravitational sources that are so small that they cannot be anything else. Similarly, the location of dark matter can actually be mapped out using gravitational lensing techniques. The main issue with dark matter is its composition, not whether it exists. Even there, we know it cannot interact strongly with electromagnetism and it does interact via gravity.
These are no 'faith' in the sense of religious faith. This is using actual observations, comparing it to our models of how gravity and electromagnetism (as well as particle physics, etc) to understand what we see. Past the initial speculation, we have many follow-up observations that confirm that both black holes and dark matter exist and many of their properties.
You mean black holes aren't soul sucking, super dense alien ice cream makers?!?

Riverside Redneck told me they were!

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128070 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Go on, poly. Excuse it all you want. Black hole & dark matter have NOT been proven. So then how could they "explain" anything? How could they be "evidence" for anyhting? Atheists don't have faith in the religious sense, but they DO have faith...
Writing to you is like beating a dead salamander.

1. Einstein's theories predict black holes
2. Einstein's theories on relativity have not been shown to be incorrect, ever (in fact all GPS systems rely on them every moment, so his theory is tested every time someone uses a GPS device)
3. We can measure how stars move
4. We have found massive objects that manipulate stars, are extremely small and utterly dark
5. These things do exactly as Einstein's theories predict: they suck in matter and energy, spray matter and energy away, shine in X-ray production (except for the hole, which is dark) and so on.
6. For all intents and purposes they are black holes

Yet here you are saying "no, we can't prove it! We can't, we can't, we can't!"

Well, that's cute and sweet of you, baby, but your protest isn't worth noting.

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