Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

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#128035 Oct 6, 2012
I got your point, Aura. But that just shows even more that atheists require faith. To take several proven calculations about one thing & speculate on another, then use that proof of the 1st thing to "prove" the 2nd is faith. Belief. Guesswork.

“Think&Care”

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#128036 Oct 6, 2012
KJV wrote:
"You shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me"
2) And the shapes [or "resemblance"] of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men
That goat herder is describing a modern era HELICOPTER
A bit of a stretch, don't you think? Actually, a HUGE stretch.
Not bad for a goat herder from 2000 years ago but there's more.
3) That I will cause the flesh to fall from their bones before their body can hit the ground, and their eyes shall melt in their sockets and their tongue in their mouth.(Zechariah 14:12)
These goat herders from 2000 years ago are describing Nuclear War or at least a big bomb. A bomb that the goat herders could not foresee 2000 years ago.
Pretty funny right?
Another huge stretch by the fundy crowd. If this is the quality of your proof, then you can stop talking now; it isn't even close.

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Since: Dec 10

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#128037 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I got your point, Aura. But that just shows even more that atheists require faith. To take several proven calculations about one thing & speculate on another, then use that proof of the 1st thing to "prove" the 2nd is faith. Belief. Guesswork.
Guesswork is called hypothesis, yes it takes a guess , but only those guesses that are supported by physical evidence that can be substantiated by real evidence can be applied to theory. Consilience get used to the concept, it proves things to the best possible degree of understanding.

Since: Sep 08

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#128038 Oct 6, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Incorrect , relativity speaking ...time can exist toward infinity with zero motion.
You wouldn't know it.

You can't prove it. You can disprove it by stopping every thing moving.

Then you wouldn't observing a thing.

Pure conjecture.

Faith based. Scientific fail.

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#128039 Oct 6, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Which would be shown wrong by observation if incorrect.
In the case of gravity, there *were* alternative versions proposed to explain dark matter. Modified gravity was a leading contender, but was shown wrong by studies of clusters where the dark matter and ordinary matter separate: the modified gravity theories couldn't explain the data without having dark matter also. The standard theory (with dark matter) explains all we have seen.
The simple fact is dark energy and matter came about because gravity as calculated could not account for the motions of the stars. Something like 95% of visible mass was missing?

That's a large margin of error. I would have looked for other things, like EM.

Gravity's strongest force is the asshole sucking in math heads.

“Ditat Deus”

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#128040 Oct 6, 2012
The faith of science is real, folks. Y'all are just too cocky to admit it.
Your science is failing. So they make up "cool" stuuf like dark matter & black holes.
They are NOT proven. They ARE guesses.
Prove me wrong...

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#128041 Oct 6, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
A bit of a stretch, don't you think? Actually, a HUGE stretch.
<quoted text>
Another huge stretch by the fundy crowd. If this is the quality of your proof, then you can stop talking now; it isn't even close.
There are a few things in the Bible that point to a loop of time. A circle of the past and future.

“Ditat Deus”

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#128042 Oct 6, 2012
You know what's also strange that the "bronze age goat herders" knew? Pangea.
It's right there in Genesis 1:9.
How could Moses know that?
hmmm

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#128044 Oct 6, 2012
http://gizmodo.com/5948833/scientists-dont-ev...

Synchronicity at work.

This is a hoot. Imagine how much in the other sciences. That hasn't been exposed.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#128046 Oct 6, 2012
Regarding to the story of the Exodus.

{Absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence}

J. Edgar Hoover the first director of the FBI. He was an iconic figure in American History. Hoover believed that knowledge and information was power.

It is widely believed he used investigative powers of the FBI to spy on powerful Americans. Keeping secret files with some rather embarrassing personal and private information on citizens, including Presidents.

In the movie,“J. Egar,” after he died the President ordered a search of Hoovers office for the secret files believed stored there. Hardly anything was recovered. Was the evidence destroyed? Or was there never any evidence?

Historians believe he did have spies digging for personal information to be used in blackmail if need be. Back to the Exodus story. Because there is no evidence or little evidence doesn’t mean evidence of absence.

As we have mentioned before there are all sorts of reasons why not to reveal or expose evidence of the Biblical story of the Exodus. Most of the reasons are political by nature and Egypt’s national pride.

Wiki:

John Edgar Hoover (January 1, 1895 – May 2, 1972) was the first Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) of the United States. Appointed director of the Bureau of Investigation—predecessor to the FBI—in 1924, he was instrumental in founding the FBI in 1935, where he remained director until his death in 1972 aged 77. Hoover is credited with building the FBI into a large and efficient crime-fighting agency, and with instituting a number of modernizations to police technology, such as a centralized fingerprint file and forensic laboratories.

Late in life and after his death Hoover became a controversial figure, as evidence of his secretive actions became known. His critics have accused him of exceeding the jurisdiction of the FBI. He used the FBI to harass political dissenters and activists, to amass secret files on political leaders, and to collect evidence using illegal methods. Hoover consequently amassed a great deal of power. Said one journalist in the 1960s, "Hoover does not have to exert pressure, he is pressure".

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#128048 Oct 6, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You wouldn't know it.
You can't prove it. You can disprove it by stopping every thing moving.
Then you wouldn't observing a thing.
Pure conjecture.
Faith based. Scientific fail.
Absolutely not, it is based on relativistic equation.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#128049 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You know what's also strange that the "bronze age goat herders" knew? Pangea.
It's right there in Genesis 1:9.
How could Moses know that?
hmmm
"And God said,“Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so." Genesis 1:9

WOW! God evaporates a mud puddle!

ROFLMAO

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#128050 Oct 6, 2012
http://scitechdaily.com/scientists-explore-ho...

"This observation was completely unexpected, "

Speaking of synchronicity.

EM. Read about its universal potentials.

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#128051 Oct 6, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely not, it is based on relativistic equation.
Amusing.

It is pure conjecture.

Hurry, go grab your relativistic beads. Maybe Einstein will appear and you can talk about it.

Since: Sep 10

San Clemente, CA

#128052 Oct 6, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
Regarding to the story of the Exodus.
This is not a sentence.

Can you tell what's missing?

Geez dude!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#128053 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Exactly....
None of you atheists can prove a black hole OR dark matter.
But you allow them to "explain" the unexplainable....
Atheism DOES require faith.
Exactly! It is pure blind faith! They have never proved anything! NEVER! But we follow blindly, just because we don't what to listen to your gods.

“Ditat Deus”

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#128054 Oct 6, 2012
Lol, Dave. Nice link.
Really, I'm not sure if coffee or chocolate is good for me or if they cause cancer. It does seem that every other day a new scientific "study" is telling me something different....

“Is that all you've got?”

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#128055 Oct 6, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't know its composition. We do know locations, though.
<quoted text>
Black holes are not part of the dark matter. That is one aspect that we do know (if it were, the effects on the background radiation would be quite different).


http://phys.org/news/2011-12-nasa-satellite-r...

“Ditat Deus”

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#128056 Oct 6, 2012
Oh, G_O_D....
If the water is "gathered into one place", logic would say that the land is also "gathered into one place"....
Do I have to spell out everything for you?
A "bronze age goat herder" knew that. How??

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#128057 Oct 6, 2012
Belief in anything without proof is faith. The closest thing to proof, has become new captures with new equipment by paranormal investigators. Believe them or not, it's still closer to proof than an atheistic philosophy.

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