Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#127979 Oct 6, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Seriously, grab a real text book on Physics and Math you are just embarrassing yourself.
You do realize we are just laughing AT you?
You laugh at him all you want. I will just give a short chortle and skip :)
:)
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Chortles save time! Chortle power!

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#127980 Oct 6, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Exodus is real.
I have the MP3.
It's by Bob Marley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =BWw_gP0vDfEXX
I have seen the film.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#127981 Oct 6, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Totally, totally, totally.
Sam Harris said that we can determine that some religions are worse than others. "Mormonism," he said, "is objectively less real than Christianity because it's just Christianity with a bunch of extra stupid stuff thrown in."
.. and, still, Mormonism is the fastest growing faith in the world ..

.. they have great CEOs, a well organized staff and magnificent temples ..

.. and when you die, you rule your very own planet with your spouse, children and dog ..

"Heaven, I'm in Heaven,
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak;
And I seem to find the happiness I seek
When we're out together dancing, cheek to cheek."

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127982 Oct 6, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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He just makes it all up. It's real for him. He doesn't need to test it. He can just think it up and it must be so.
Btw, thinking about armchair physics...thinking about 2 dimensions of time and comparing that to "flatland." I think Mrs. Flatland could work out that some circles, but not others, had shadows - and how the shadows worked. I don't know if they could deduce from that that a 3-D world existed and was necessary to have shadows, though.
So what would constitute a "time-shadow"?
And what does it mean if someone says "the second dimension of time is thermal"???
Me no understand :(
Try casting a shadow without a source of energy or something you can measure from another dimension. Such as the beam of light hitting a wall you make your shadow puppets with. Hence 3 dimensions.

Stupid woman. Any elementary school child can figure that out.

However, that source has to wrap around and interact with those hands. The beam gets redirected and the shadow is the subtracted energy hitting the wall. You have to be in junior high for that.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127983 Oct 6, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Seriously, grab a real text book on Physics and Math you are just embarrassing yourself.
You do realize we are just laughing AT you?
Your laughs, like you intellect, have no substance, therefore no effect.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#127984 Oct 6, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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We don't know its composition. We do know locations, though.
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Black holes are not part of the dark matter. That is one aspect that we do know (if it were, the effects on the background radiation would be quite different).
That isn't correct poly , there are several variations of hypothesis where black holes are constituting part of what considered dark matter. Here is one.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#127986 Oct 6, 2012
Exactly....
None of you atheists can prove a black hole OR dark matter.
But you allow them to "explain" the unexplainable....
Atheism DOES require faith.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#127987 Oct 6, 2012
hehehehe Even you athiests (Aura, poly) can't agree on whether or not a blacl hole has dark matter in it...
See?
More "evidence" that crumbles before your eyes.
Seriously, when are you people gonna wake up?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#127988 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Exactly....
None of you atheists can prove a black hole OR dark matter.
But you allow them to "explain" the unexplainable....
Atheism DOES require faith.
Black holes are pretty much proven by the prediction in GR of them, the evidence by observation of the effects predicted exerted on stars. But dark matter is another story since it cannot be seen directly with telescopes. But it is a explanation that fits the observations.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127989 Oct 6, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Black holes are pretty much proven by the prediction in GR of them, the evidence by observation of the effects predicted exerted on stars. But dark matter is another story since it cannot be seen directly with telescopes. But it is a explanation that fits the observations.
LOL!!

Sounds like religion.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#127990 Oct 6, 2012
"pretty much proven"?!?
...
Ya, I saw that black hole in the Flash Gordon movie.
THAT proves it!
Go on, keep your scienctifically "proven" faith...

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#127991 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
hehehehe Even you athiests (Aura, poly) can't agree on whether or not a blacl hole has dark matter in it...
See?
More "evidence" that crumbles before your eyes.
Seriously, when are you people gonna wake up?
Gasp, yes we admit everything cannot be explained yet.
But the inexplicable was never explained with the simple minds that conceded in utter defeat and puzzlement with the statement.
"god done it" Do you suppose there would even be a damn light bulb
or autonomous robot on mars if all men took that cop out?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#127992 Oct 6, 2012
Dark matter is 100% hypothetical. Yet you listen & BELIEVE the theorists that spout their bullshit that dark matter IS real... "as soon as we find it, we'll know".
LMMFAOOOOOOO

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127993 Oct 6, 2012
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News...

They wind up in all sorts of places, even on good days. Powerlines are favorites.

Really neat watching those colorful things float over.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127994 Oct 6, 2012
http://www.cnn.com/video/...

Just a snapshot of everyone alive today would take 220 years to watch,

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#127995 Oct 6, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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LOL!!
Sounds like religion.

Of course Dave , to you science is a religion.
Experimentation and observation coupled with the collection of evidence is sheer magic at work. It's all done with lights and mirrors and a few magnets. We use slight of hand and illusion to
fool the monkey brains. There's no such thing as gravity and Newton as well as Einstein were Circus entertainers.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

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#127996 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
"pretty much proven"?!?
...
Ya, I saw that black hole in the Flash Gordon movie.
THAT proves it!
Go on, keep your scienctifically "proven" faith...
Of course GR means nothing to you also, there is actually a invisible pole in the center of the galaxy , in which the stars go around in a great big race. The winner of the race will get a lollypop from skydaddy. You have to be smarter than a tree dweller
RR to understand the implications of GR black holes and dark matter.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#127997 Oct 6, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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That isn't correct poly , there are several variations of hypothesis where black holes are constituting part of what considered dark matter. Here is one.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/...
The problem is that black holes add to the baryonic matter total and that is tightly constrained by nucleogenesis measurements and by background radiation measurements. While primordial black holes might be a *component* of the dark matter total, they can't explain it all.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#127998 Oct 6, 2012
I already understand the implications of black holes & dark matter...
I see it differently that you, Aura. That's all.
I see it as scientists (NOT science) trying to fill in the blanks for shit they're clueless on.
The funny thing is, you buy it.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#127999 Oct 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Exactly....
None of you atheists can prove a black hole OR dark matter.
But you allow them to "explain" the unexplainable....
Atheism DOES require faith.
Black holes are proven in the sense that there are compact gravitational sources that are so small that they cannot be anything else. Similarly, the location of dark matter can actually be mapped out using gravitational lensing techniques. The main issue with dark matter is its composition, not whether it exists. Even there, we know it cannot interact strongly with electromagnetism and it does interact via gravity.

These are no 'faith' in the sense of religious faith. This is using actual observations, comparing it to our models of how gravity and electromagnetism (as well as particle physics, etc) to understand what we see. Past the initial speculation, we have many follow-up observations that confirm that both black holes and dark matter exist and many of their properties.

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