Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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<quoted text> And i am pointing out to you and everyone here around 2500 or so years ago those people believed the Exodus happened. You and others are saying they are wrong. Amenhotep II was not the first born son of his father and his first born son did not go to the throne. Remember the first born was to die? It is Thutmose III then Amenhotep II then Thutmose IV. Answer my question. Why would they write the Exodus as a marker if the event did not happen? 1 Kings 6:1
I am a unicorn. There, now I am, according to your logic.

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Slaves usually require security to prevent escape,
I'm not even going to ask how you know that.

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You religious nuts can't stand challenges, can you?
Dave.

It's beddy-by time.

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It is.

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Thereís no evidence that disproves the Exodus story, none.
There's
And none to prove it outside of a book of myths and stories.

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1. The pyraomids were built mikenia before the Hebrews even existed.
2. The Hebrews are the same peole as the Canaanires.
3. There is no record in all of Egypt for slave labor. Rather the archaelogical record and several written records indicates that laborers on the royal building projects were well provided for.
4. Even many Jewish scholars admit that the "Exodus" is more Heroic Legend than History.
5. Jesus never mentions Exodus, Pharoe or Egypt. So as far as Chrisitnaity should be concerned, it is as meaningless as Stonehenge is to Hinduism.

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Time for a new keyboard or new glasses.

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The book can't be total fiction. Lasted too damned long for that, and the stories are just too off the wall to be fiction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey

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There is conflicting information about Jericho from Archeologist and Historians.

Some say there is evidence to support the story in the bible and others have made claims it didnít happen. When one looks at where Jericho is located in modern times itís clear as to why there is a dispute.

It is in Palestinian control. The Palestinians and Israelis are not considered good friends. Itís in the best interest of Palestinians to deny the story of Jericho.

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Jericho (&#65532; /&#712;d&#658;&#60 3;r&#618;ko&#650;/; Arabic: &#1571;&#1585;&#16 10;&#1581;&#1575;& #8206; &#702;Ar&#299;&#77 17;&#257; [&#660;a&#712;ri&# 720;&#295;a](&#65532; listen); Hebrew: &#1497;&#1456;&#15 12;&#1460;&#1497;& #1495;&#1493;&#1465; &#8206;&#8206; Yeri&#7717;o [je&#641;i&#712;&# 967;o](&#65532; listen)) is a Palestinian city located near the Jordan River in the West Bank. It is the administrative seat of the Jericho Governorate. In 2007 it had a population of 18,346.[2] The city was under Jordanian occupation from 1948 to 1967, and under Israeli occupation from 1967 to 1994, when control was handed over to the Palestinian Authority.[3] It is believed to be one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world.[4][5][6]

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You religious nuts can't stand challenges, can you?
What are you talking about? Dave, you are being ridiculous. I am telling you I am open to hearing an explanation from you as to why your way is better. I mean that, I'm not joking. Tell me why your version of the electric universe model makes more sense than the current models. Explain its predictive power. Explain its explanatory power. Seriously.

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A few ounce magnet can pick up several pounds of steel. This magnet is made from something invisible called electricity and magnetism. A short shot of this stuff makes that magnet strong enough to do that. You can't even weigh it.

It was not the mass, and thus gravity, of atomic particles doing the pick up. Nor the strong nuclear force. Not directly, anyhow.

That same magnetic force transverses billions of light years, if not as a flux, as a photon. Which then imparts a force to mass it impacts. As a packet, or as a wave.

Which is THE force of the universe?

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<quoted text>And none to prove it outside of a book of myths and stories.
You can't prove it didn't happen.

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Dave.
It's beddy-by time.
Really.
It is.
I'm about to head there.

Don't forget to light your candles to Darwin and Einstein before you go sheepy bye.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
A few ounce magnet can pick up several pounds of steel. This magnet is made from something invisible called electricity and magnetism. A short shot of this stuff makes that magnet strong enough to do that. You can't even weigh it.
It was not the mass, and thus gravity, of atomic particles doing the pick up. Nor the strong nuclear force. Not directly, anyhow.
That same magnetic force transverses billions of light years, if not as a flux, as a photon. Which then imparts a force to mass it impacts. As a packet, or as a wave.
Which is THE force of the universe?
Well you know Dave there are FOUR of them.

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1. The pyraomids were built mikenia before the Hebrews even existed.
2. The Hebrews are the same peole as the Canaanires.
3. There is no record in all of Egypt for slave labor. Rather the archaelogical record and several written records indicates that laborers on the royal building projects were well provided for.
4. Even many Jewish scholars admit that the "Exodus" is more Heroic Legend than History.
5. Jesus never mentions Exodus, Pharoe or Egypt. So as far as Chrisitnaity should be concerned, it is as meaningless as Stonehenge is to Hinduism.
Do you know what the Passover is?

Do you know where the celebration of the Passover came from?

Did you know that Jesus celebrated the Passover?

Iím not interested in the infidels account of where it derived from.

Matthew 26:17-19
King James Version (KJV)

17. Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

18. And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.

19. And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

As far as evidence of slave labor. The evidence stands tall in the form of pyramids.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>What are you talking about? Dave, you are being ridiculous. I am telling you I am open to hearing an explanation from you as to why your way is better. I mean that, I'm not joking. Tell me why your version of the electric universe model makes more sense than the current models. Explain its predictive power. Explain its explanatory power. Seriously.
I have before. Space in motion being knit.

I answered some of that in the post following this one I am responding to. I do not claim clairvoyancy.

Space was set in motion to make matter. Magnetism is streams of space. Electricity is loops of magnetism in packets. Magnetism produces particles, particles produce atoms, and the atoms produce the packets. The packets then produce magnetism. Call the magnetism magnetic current. More descriptive.

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<quoted text> Well you know Dave there are FOUR of them.
The weak force has been determined to be a form of what they term EM.

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Yet, I can walk out of my front door, climb in my vehicle and with very little effort, find Aboriginal American artifacts and sites that date anywhere from 500 to 5000+ years old.
Within one or two hours.
There was a very extensive archaeological survey done in the region that the "Exodus", and subsequent 40 year trek in the Sinai desert was alleged to have occurred,that revealed sites and artifacts from the Neolithic period, and earlier.
The teams of archaeologists surmised that at any point in history, that the region might have supported somewhere in the area of 15,000-25,000 people at any given time, and that it would have been almost impossible to have supported more than 150,000 at ANY time. Given resources, water, food etc...
Not one trace, however, of the type of evidence that could support the Exodus story as being literal.
I moved from Houston to Illinois. If you go over the 800 miles between here and there you will find no evidence of my move.

Why?

Because I took everything with me.

Just come out and say what we all know. You have no proof to counter the Exodus story except innuendos and hunches.

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Eagle12 wrote:
There is conflicting information about Jericho from Archeologist and Historians.
Archeologists. Plural.

And there's no reason to capitalize.

Come on man.

Take your time. Get it right.

I hate to see you embarrassing yourself over and over again.

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The weak force has been determined to be a form of what they term EM.
Go to sleep already.

Didn't I tell you a while ago?

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Eagle12 wrote:
There is conflicting information about Jericho from Archeologist and Historians.
Some say there is evidence to support the story in the bible and others have made claims it didnít happen. When one looks at where Jericho is located in modern times itís clear as to why there is a dispute.
It is in Palestinian control. The Palestinians and Israelis are not considered good friends. Itís in the best interest of Palestinians to deny the story of Jericho.
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Jericho (&#65532; /&#712;d&#658;&#60 3;r&#618;ko&#650;/; Arabic: &#1571;&#1585;&#16 10;&#1581;&#1575;& #8206; &#702;Ar&#299;&#77 17;&#257; [&#660;a&#712;ri&# 720;&#295;a](&#65532; listen); Hebrew: &#1497;&#1456;&#15 12;&#1460;&#1497;& #1495;&#1493;&#1465; &#8206;&#8206; Yeri&#7717;o [je&#641;i&#712;&# 967;o](&#65532; listen)) is a Palestinian city located near the Jordan River in the West Bank. It is the administrative seat of the Jericho Governorate. In 2007 it had a population of 18,346.[2] The city was under Jordanian occupation from 1948 to 1967, and under Israeli occupation from 1967 to 1994, when control was handed over to the Palestinian Authority.[3] It is believed to be one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world.[4][5][6]
If the story wasn't in the bible, would we have any good reason to think it happened? The only reason there might be a dispute is because people are desperate to prove a central biblical story.

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