Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127648 Oct 4, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Motivation is not easily stirred within men, but given the right stimulus men have achieved monumental tasks to amazement of others forever. This is a key to why the task must be large to immortalize
those who achieved them.
One such task was given to America in the 60s, to put a man on the moon. The call was answered and the effort achieved a great thing.
Once this type thinking was literally carved from stone, it only take the right motivators to a monumental task , to be answered by the willing to take part in something greater than self.
The most admirable human quality, and reason we excel.
Barf.

The average Egyptian, and almost all vassal states, could give a shit about Pharaoh's tomb.

Now those that plundered them loved the hell of them. As did those that made money building them.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#127649 Oct 4, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Oh good, if you believe in prayer, here's a story for you--not new, but worth repeating:
A kid wanted a bicycle. So he prayed for one, but it didn't come. He prayed some more, and still no hint of a bicycle. So he prayed even harder. Still no bicycle. Finally he decided his prayers for a bicycle would not be answered and he had to take matters into his own hands.
So he went out and stole a bicycle...and prayed for forgiveness.
A kid walked by his mother's bedroom and saw her on the bed masturbating, saying, "Oh god, I need a man. Oh god, I need a man".

Two nights later, he walked by his mom's room and a naked man walked out, excused himself, went to the bathroom, urinated and walked back into his mom's room and closed the door. The boy immediately went back to his room, started masturbating furiously saying, "Oh god, I need a bicycle. Oh god, I need a bicycle.".

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#127650 Oct 4, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Amusing. You are the type that would think words on a blackboard were never written because they were erased.
The book can't be total fiction. Lasted too damned long for that, and the stories are just too off the wall to be fiction.
Israel was conquered by Egypt for a while. One of their vassal states. The area was full of skilled workers and artisans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Pales...
Flawless logic. The stories are so unbelievable, they're believable. Wow. Lie big, right?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127651 Oct 4, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>you are absurd. Yes, science changes and evolves to accommodate new information. This is a feature, not a fault. Nothing has come up to suggest that a paradigm shift is necessary, especially to an electric universe model. Again, go ahead and offer a compelling reason why you are right and everyone else is wrong. Note- swinging magnets around does not constitute compelling evidence.
You religious nuts can't stand challenges, can you?

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#127652 Oct 4, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
The sands of time.
I have places in my yard that have collected 8 inches of wind blown dust in 20 years. That is dust that collected and has been added to the existing dirt through subsidence and has survived erosion from rain and floods. Anything above the level ground on windswept prairies catches dust and piles it up. The higher it gets and the more it catches.
I know it is 8 inches in those places, next to walls and fences, here because I have found sections of the old sprinkler system from 20 years ago with the popup heads that far down. The flat areas were still flush for the most part, or maybe an inch or so below.
The dust we get here has been blowing from the Rockies and the south and west west of there for eons. Wind erosion.
In those places that would be an average of 40 inches of piled up dirt, which is very fine stuff here, in 100 years. That is 400 inches in 1000 years. 800 inches in 2000 years. 800 inches is 66 feet. That is a 6 story building.
Lot of stuff buried deep in the ground that hasn't been found yet in this world.
Reserve judgment about finding relics to substantiate written records.
Yet, I can walk out of my front door, climb in my vehicle and with very little effort, find Aboriginal American artifacts and sites that date anywhere from 500 to 5000+ years old.

Within one or two hours.

There was a very extensive archaeological survey done in the region that the "Exodus", and subsequent 40 year trek in the Sinai desert was alleged to have occurred,that revealed sites and artifacts from the Neolithic period, and earlier.

The teams of archaeologists surmised that at any point in history, that the region might have supported somewhere in the area of 15,000-25,000 people at any given time, and that it would have been almost impossible to have supported more than 150,000 at ANY time. Given resources, water, food etc...

Not one trace, however, of the type of evidence that could support the Exodus story as being literal.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#127653 Oct 4, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> And i am pointing out to you and everyone here around 2500 or so years ago those people believed the Exodus happened. You and others are saying they are wrong. Amenhotep II was not the first born son of his father and his first born son did not go to the throne. Remember the first born was to die? It is Thutmose III then Amenhotep II then Thutmose IV. Answer my question. Why would they write the Exodus as a marker if the event did not happen? 1 Kings 6:1
I am a unicorn. There, now I am, according to your logic.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#127654 Oct 4, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Slaves usually require security to prevent escape,
I'm not even going to ask how you know that.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#127655 Oct 4, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You religious nuts can't stand challenges, can you?
Dave.

It's beddy-by time.

Really.

It is.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#127656 Oct 4, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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There’s no evidence that disproves the Exodus story, none.
There's
And none to prove it outside of a book of myths and stories.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#127657 Oct 4, 2012
1. The pyraomids were built mikenia before the Hebrews even existed.
2. The Hebrews are the same peole as the Canaanires.
3. There is no record in all of Egypt for slave labor. Rather the archaelogical record and several written records indicates that laborers on the royal building projects were well provided for.
4. Even many Jewish scholars admit that the "Exodus" is more Heroic Legend than History.
5. Jesus never mentions Exodus, Pharoe or Egypt. So as far as Chrisitnaity should be concerned, it is as meaningless as Stonehenge is to Hinduism.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#127658 Oct 4, 2012
Time for a new keyboard or new glasses.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#127659 Oct 4, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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The book can't be total fiction. Lasted too damned long for that, and the stories are just too off the wall to be fiction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#127660 Oct 4, 2012
There is conflicting information about Jericho from Archeologist and Historians.

Some say there is evidence to support the story in the bible and others have made claims it didn’t happen. When one looks at where Jericho is located in modern times it’s clear as to why there is a dispute.

It is in Palestinian control. The Palestinians and Israelis are not considered good friends. It’s in the best interest of Palestinians to deny the story of Jericho.

Wiki:

Jericho (&#65532; /&#712;d&#658;&#60 3;r&#618;ko&#650;/; Arabic: &#1571;&#1585;&#16 10;&#1581;&#1575;& #8206; &#702;Ar&#299;&#77 17;&#257; [&#660;a&#712;ri&# 720;&#295;a](&#65532; listen); Hebrew: &#1497;&#1456;&#15 12;&#1460;&#1497;& #1495;&#1493;&#1465; &#8206;&#8206; Yeri&#7717;o [je&#641;i&#712;&# 967;o](&#65532; listen)) is a Palestinian city located near the Jordan River in the West Bank. It is the administrative seat of the Jericho Governorate. In 2007 it had a population of 18,346.[2] The city was under Jordanian occupation from 1948 to 1967, and under Israeli occupation from 1967 to 1994, when control was handed over to the Palestinian Authority.[3] It is believed to be one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world.[4][5][6]

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#127661 Oct 4, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You religious nuts can't stand challenges, can you?
What are you talking about? Dave, you are being ridiculous. I am telling you I am open to hearing an explanation from you as to why your way is better. I mean that, I'm not joking. Tell me why your version of the electric universe model makes more sense than the current models. Explain its predictive power. Explain its explanatory power. Seriously.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127662 Oct 4, 2012
A few ounce magnet can pick up several pounds of steel. This magnet is made from something invisible called electricity and magnetism. A short shot of this stuff makes that magnet strong enough to do that. You can't even weigh it.

It was not the mass, and thus gravity, of atomic particles doing the pick up. Nor the strong nuclear force. Not directly, anyhow.

That same magnetic force transverses billions of light years, if not as a flux, as a photon. Which then imparts a force to mass it impacts. As a packet, or as a wave.

Which is THE force of the universe?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#127663 Oct 4, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>And none to prove it outside of a book of myths and stories.
You can't prove it didn't happen.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127664 Oct 4, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Dave.
It's beddy-by time.
Really.
It is.
I'm about to head there.

Don't forget to light your candles to Darwin and Einstein before you go sheepy bye.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#127665 Oct 4, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
A few ounce magnet can pick up several pounds of steel. This magnet is made from something invisible called electricity and magnetism. A short shot of this stuff makes that magnet strong enough to do that. You can't even weigh it.
It was not the mass, and thus gravity, of atomic particles doing the pick up. Nor the strong nuclear force. Not directly, anyhow.
That same magnetic force transverses billions of light years, if not as a flux, as a photon. Which then imparts a force to mass it impacts. As a packet, or as a wave.
Which is THE force of the universe?
Well you know Dave there are FOUR of them.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#127666 Oct 4, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
1. The pyraomids were built mikenia before the Hebrews even existed.
2. The Hebrews are the same peole as the Canaanires.
3. There is no record in all of Egypt for slave labor. Rather the archaelogical record and several written records indicates that laborers on the royal building projects were well provided for.
4. Even many Jewish scholars admit that the "Exodus" is more Heroic Legend than History.
5. Jesus never mentions Exodus, Pharoe or Egypt. So as far as Chrisitnaity should be concerned, it is as meaningless as Stonehenge is to Hinduism.
Do you know what the Passover is?

Do you know where the celebration of the Passover came from?

Did you know that Jesus celebrated the Passover?

I’m not interested in the infidels account of where it derived from.

Matthew 26:17-19
King James Version (KJV)

17. Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

18. And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.

19. And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

As far as evidence of slave labor. The evidence stands tall in the form of pyramids.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#127667 Oct 4, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>What are you talking about? Dave, you are being ridiculous. I am telling you I am open to hearing an explanation from you as to why your way is better. I mean that, I'm not joking. Tell me why your version of the electric universe model makes more sense than the current models. Explain its predictive power. Explain its explanatory power. Seriously.
I have before. Space in motion being knit.

I answered some of that in the post following this one I am responding to. I do not claim clairvoyancy.

Space was set in motion to make matter. Magnetism is streams of space. Electricity is loops of magnetism in packets. Magnetism produces particles, particles produce atoms, and the atoms produce the packets. The packets then produce magnetism. Call the magnetism magnetic current. More descriptive.

Good night.

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