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“The eye has it...”

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#127388
Oct 3, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
There is lots of anecdotal supernatural events going way back in time. Just because they didn't happen in a lab doesn't mean they didn't happen.
Name some of those events.

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http://www.viewzone.com/Fear-Of-Death.html

Gary Vey gets on the sensational side, and misses some things, but comes up with interesting things to think about.

LISTEN UP YOU ATHEISTS!!!!!!!

YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!

YOU ARE GOING TO BURN FOREVER!!!

IN ETERNAL AGONY YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!!!!

YOU ARE DOOMED!!!!

“I see quantum effects”

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In the macro world.

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#127390
Oct 3, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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As we routinely create devices utilizing the same parts and laws of physics that we are made of, almost always by design, there is a certain logic to lead us to believe that such may very well be how we got here. I mean, we can make devices that will talk back to us. However, being an offshoot of such a process may not mean that its environment and laws of physics is the same as ours, but some aspects will be just to establish those laws we live under.
All in all, believing in a nature that spawned this one, which again, is probably built upon some order, and thus design, would indicate there is a higher intelligence with its finger on the power switch, and which for practical purposes, and as a working hypothesis, can be referred to as God.
Just kinda makes more sense than pontificating we just happened.
I think it is a little too early to concern ourselves about who made the outlet for the mixer. When we get to that point, we may luck out and get a manufacturer's name on it. Perhaps someone will be in the kitchen to answer our questions.
You people amaze me.
Who made god?

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Oct 3, 2012
 
scaritual wrote:
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Name some of those events.
The Big Bang as presented by atheists.

Abiogenesis.

The existence of so many Topix atheists. Such require much divine intervention to survive so long, what with partial brains.

Take your pick. There are tons of them out there.

“I see quantum effects”

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#127392
Oct 3, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.viewzone.com/Fear-O f-Death.html
Gary Vey gets on the sensational side, and misses some things, but comes up with interesting things to think about.
LISTEN UP YOU ATHEISTS!!!!!!!
YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!
YOU ARE GOING TO BURN FOREVER!!!
IN ETERNAL AGONY YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!!!!
YOU ARE DOOMED!!!!
Yeah?

So?

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Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.viewzone.com/Fear-O f-Death.html
Gary Vey gets on the sensational side, and misses some things, but comes up with interesting things to think about.
LISTEN UP YOU ATHEISTS!!!!!!!
YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!
YOU ARE GOING TO BURN FOREVER!!!
IN ETERNAL AGONY YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!!!!
YOU ARE DOOMED!!!!
Are you joking, or did someone just snap?

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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The Big Bang as presented by atheists.
Abiogenesis.
The existence of so many Topix atheists. Such require much divine intervention to survive so long, what with partial brains.
Take your pick. There are tons of them out there.
I think a giant magnet appeared in the sky and shot everything with EM waves.

Or something like that.

“Formerly "Richard"”

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#127395
Oct 3, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Why don't you just say the little bastards are moving too fast for you get a handle on?
That was pure bullshit. Hardly hard physics. Imagination running wild to explain the inconsistencies and inaccuracies of building a universe with math.
You have just shown your complete lack of understanding of Physics. In effect what you have said here is:-

"I haven't got a clue therefore it must be wrong."

this is is called the arrogance of ignorance.

You are now faced with possibilities:-

1. Throw your PC away as it depends Quantum Theory to operate

or

2. Grab a real textbook on Physics and start learning.

you will do neither.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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The Big Bang as presented by atheists.
Abiogenesis.
The existence of so many Topix atheists. Such require much divine intervention to survive so long, what with partial brains.
Take your pick. There are tons of them out there.
You don't know what supernatural means.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, it may be possible, just like everything may be possible. The difference with "abiogentic atheists," whoever they are, is that there are no extraordinary assumptions being made. There wasn't life, there was life, therefore life started somehow. No need to invoke a higher power when there is no evidence for one.
And do you really think anecdotal evidence means anything? There's anecdotal evidence for leprechauns too.
Well, Genesis does support chemical means of creating life, including man. Those seeds planted to become animals, and Adam made out of the dust of the earth.

They just seem to have needed a little jumpstart.

Seeds are collections of chemicals. Did you know that? Some are real dry.

“I see quantum effects”

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Dave Nelson wrote:
http://scitechdaily.com/scient ists-use-ultra-short-pulses-of -terahertz-laser-light-to-mani pulate-magnetism/
http://scitechdaily.com/ultrashort-pulses-of-...
Can gravity do this over a distance?
Ignorable perturbations, surely.
You are bombarded by light continually. EM is the primary glue and motivator of the universe.
Remote controlled airplanes.
Tine to lay off sniffing fart bubbles, Dave.

You're getting methane narcosis.

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scaritual wrote:
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You don't know what supernatural means.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sup...

Thought it was something like that.

You know what? You can't really "observe" space. You can see things through it, but they have to be of the same material constructions as ourselves.

Do you realize how many sharp toothed creatures you can't see or touch might be standing right behind you, staring st your neck, slobbering all over the place? Just waiting until they can get their hands on you? In their realm. Once that energy creating you starts to fade.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Nobody deserves what you want for me - eternal torment without hope of mercy. And just consider your reason for thinking so: you believe that that is what your god thinks, and you will gleefully assent to anything that you can be made to believe is your god's will, including that. You have lost your moral compass.
That makes you an undesirable neighbor and undesirable as a compatriot. You would sell me out for almost no reason at all, as you just did.
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Faith has everything to do with it. Your bible and other Christians taught you to think like this.
You're doing a great job here, BTW. People need to see what religion does. None of the skeptics is anything like you. I know who I can trust to do the right thing, and who I can expect to follow orders, however obscene.
Aren't you one of the Christians who bristles at calling Hitler Christian? You're a hell of a lot closer to Hitler than I am.
Personally it would hell to be stuck in heaven with all these godbots.

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Richardfs wrote:
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You have just shown your complete lack of understanding of Physics. In effect what you have said here is:-
"I haven't got a clue therefore it must be wrong."
this is is called the arrogance of ignorance.
You are now faced with possibilities:-
1. Throw your PC away as it depends Quantum Theory to operate
or
2. Grab a real textbook on Physics and start learning.
you will do neither.
Capitalized Physics and Quantum Theory?

woo hoo
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Oct 3, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.viewzone.com/Fear-O f-Death.html
Gary Vey gets on the sensational side, and misses some things, but comes up with interesting things to think about.
LISTEN UP YOU ATHEISTS!!!!!!!
YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!
YOU ARE GOING TO BURN FOREVER!!!
IN ETERNAL AGONY YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!!!!
YOU ARE DOOMED!!!!
You're born, the lights go on, you dance awhile, the lights go off, you die. Works for me...

“Formerly "Richard"”

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Oct 3, 2012
 
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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<Hiding sits up>
"Having troubles with the belt buckle?"
And that would surprise you how???
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Anon wrote:
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You're born, the lights go on, you dance awhile, the lights go off, you die. Works for me...
a while, dammit.

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You're born, the lights go on, you dance awhile, the lights go off, you die. Works for me...
Carry a flashlight in case you don't "die".

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#127406
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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Everything has to be set into motion to mix.
Didn't your momma larn you nothing?
What turned on the mixer? Where was it plugged into?
Boudreaux, This universe didn't pop out of nothing and started to stir itself.
Who set god in motion?

“Aura , Savior of the Universe!”

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Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.viewzone.com/Fear-O f-Death.html
Gary Vey gets on the sensational side, and misses some things, but comes up with interesting things to think about.
LISTEN UP YOU ATHEISTS!!!!!!!
YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!
YOU ARE GOING TO BURN FOREVER!!!
IN ETERNAL AGONY YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!!!!
YOU ARE DOOMED!!!!
I can sell you some of your body parts? Want them?

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