Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Oct 3, 2012
 
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>What is there to concentrate on? the current temp? the temp of tomorrow the possibility of rain? It takes sooo much concentration to listen to the weather, yup. If it makes you feel better maybe they could do a coed nude weather forcast.
You obviously do not get the same class of news we get over the big pond

As I said to Givmeliberty If you want naked then there are plenty of sites on the internet.

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I Don't do requests , especially from shop teachers that are missing parts of their fingers.
Cute.

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Oct 3, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Cute.
That's OK. Just keep riding your little pony round and round. Don't let go of it.
Where's your f*cking god? Oh yeah that's right you're that proven Creationist liar that nobody here believes anymore.

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Oct 3, 2012
 
ChristineM wrote:
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You obviously do not get the same class of news we get over the big pond
As I said to Givmeliberty If you want naked then there are plenty of sites on the internet.
Yeah, can't show the naked female form to children. They might get hungry.

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Oct 3, 2012
 
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>She is not telling you the weather, this topless meteorologist is warning you of your god's moods
lulz. You people and your silly ideas.

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Oct 3, 2012
 
polymath257 wrote:
Garbage. Saying something is true is simply a way of saying it holds. When I say that it is true that matter attracts matter, that is completely equivalent to saying that matter attracts matter.
So truth depends on there being something to be true about.
Even if the universe did not exist it would still be logically true the universe could not create itself. Logic and truth is not universe dependent the same way gravity and motion is. If the universe ceased to exist then so would gravity and motion which can be measured and tested. Not so with logic and truth. Both transcend the universe and need a cause.
Why? It isn't a physical thing. it isn't a causally connected item. It isn't an object in time. So no 'cause' of truth is required.
No cause of truth required? That is a cop out.

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-Skeptic- wrote:
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Where's your f*cking god? Oh yeah that's right you're that proven Creationist liar that nobody here believes anymore.
My, my, you woke up angry this morning.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Cute.
That's OK. Just keep riding your little pony round and round. Don't let go of it.
Did he hurt your feelings? Wait till you lose a leg.

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Oct 3, 2012
 
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Even if the universe did not exist it would still be logically true the universe could not create itself. Logic and truth is not universe dependent the same way gravity and motion is. If the universe ceased to exist then so would gravity and motion which can be measured and tested. Not so with logic and truth. Both transcend the universe and need a cause.
<quoted text> No cause of truth required? That is a cop out.
Assigning a creator as the cause of the universe is a religious logical fallacy.

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#127294
Oct 3, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
The natural has an origin, otherwise it wouldn't be natural.
Unjustified assumption.

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River Tam wrote:
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Did he hurt your feelings? Wait till you lose a leg.
Do you think anyone on here can hurt my feelings?

There are worse things to lose than a leg that aren't even physical.

Missing body parts use to be a lot more common. Infection, edged weapons, and industrial accidents took a huge toll in days past.

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polymath257 wrote:
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Unjustified assumption.
How so?

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#127297
Oct 3, 2012
 
Some of those hotties do a pretty decent job believe it or not. Better than what you would hear from faux news anyways. Some of them really take it seriously.
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<quoted text>Do you really get the news?

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Oct 3, 2012
 
I believe naked news is online only and yes for adults only. Believe it or not some of the ladies seem to do a good job of reporting the news. Pull up one of their videos and scroll down so you just hear them reporting you may be surprised.
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>I’m not sure the general public would agree with you. No need for it to be on primetime TV, have you considered the children?

If you want naked then there are plenty of sites on the internet.

And can you really say that you would take any notice of the news?

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Oct 3, 2012
 
That will happen when he changes his brakes on the car.
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>Did he hurt your feelings? Wait till you lose a leg.

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lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> You don't know there is no cause. The whole idea may appeal to you. I find it interesting you are so willing to throw out causal law and declare there are effects without cause. According to an article i read by Jeremy Royal Howard. Many appear in artificial lab settings. The ability to penetrate the micro physical is still rudiment and subject to speculation and error. Considered quantum oddities. So there is skepticism.
The quantum oddities are supported by actual experiment and observation: the uncertainty principle, the double-slit experiment, Bell's inequalities, quantum erasers, etc.

We know, because of experiment, that there is no causal connection between the particles in the Arrow experiment showing Bell's inequalities fail for quantum systems. And yet there is correlation. The universe is inherently probabilistic at the quantum level: but there are non-trivial correlations to those probabilities.

Yes, there is a difference between not knowing a cause and there being no cause. Arrow's experiment and Bell's inequalities are designed to test exactly that difference. And the real world is not causal.
Not really. Still not convinced the big bang is uncaused event.
For that matter, neither am I. But it is a distinct possibility. It is also possible it was caused by a previous stage involving either a contracting universe or an expanding one operating under string theory principles. In any case, quantum gravity is crucial for the early stages of the expansion so there will be probabilistic aspects.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Cute.
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And can't answer two simple questions.

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Richardfs wrote:
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And can't answer two simple questions.
I did.

Wasn't what you wanted?

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Richardfs wrote:
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And can't answer two simple questions.
Richard!

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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There are worse things to lose than a leg that aren't even physical.
Tell me. I only had it for 18 years. Would it be different if I was your age? Would it be easier or not?

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