Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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religionislies

London, UK

#234900 Aug 19, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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You mean progress of mass murder?
The nerve of 'em.
Cowardly Creationist Cult members don't have the balls to admit they have no evidence of god.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#234901 Aug 19, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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On Holiday, Dec 25th?
I mean, that's what it's called nowadays, isn't it? "Holiday"?
No, I still call it Christmas like other people. I just don't attach any Christian feelings about it. Easter was always about dying eggs and having easter egg hunts for the kids. No Christian feelings attached to it either. I could care less what name it has.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#234902 Aug 19, 2014
critical thinking wrote:
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Where is the scientific evidence that shows Christians are mean, narcissistic, closed-minded? I didn't think so. I find it ironic you atheist spend an inordinate amount of time researching something you do not believe.
I'm not a so-called 'Atheist'.

To answer your request I'll use historical data....since scientific studies on a "belief" - which is also a thought generated/synthetic attribute - contains perception of an individual(s)- biased in various ways.

So you have scientific evidence of mental thoughts and beliefs. Are they from psychologists? Psychiatrists? Neurologists? Or just some doctor who has a PhD?

The Inquisitions.
The Crusades
The Salem Witch Trials

How much of history will be required to justify those traits?
- I can post much more if you need it.

Please show me your evidence that shows/"proves" Atheists ARE of the same traits.

Thanks!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#234903 Aug 19, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
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I read the cited study with great interest. It is the first effort that I've seen to delineate subcategories within the unaffiliated or "nones" category used in both the Pew Forum's Religious Landscape Study and Trinity College's American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS).
Interestingly enough, they found that the principles I've written about over the last few years were pretty much on target: that the ranges of identification, attitudes, beliefs, and profiles within the larger categories of nonbelievers and the unaffiliated vary too widely to allow for any justifiable stereotypes.
I suspect that the study's authors would also agree that the subcategories are also flexible to the point that many if not most individuals may have qualities that mix those of the various categories. I doubt that they would agree that science finds that all New Atheists are narcissistic and mean, but I did notice that the semantics and tone gave the impression that the writers viewed some of the subcategories more favorably than others.
In a nutshell - perception can include bias, and thus not justify a complete segregation of individuals - in a specific manner as the original poster tried to ensue.

Cheers!
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#234904 Aug 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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It is not bogus, it is a study that you don’t happen to agree with because it makes you out to be liar but that makes no difference because we know you are liar anyway.
And as I have told you before you watch to many FOX stomp on Britain programs and read to many supermarket sensation tabloids, they of course have no relationship to reality but no doubt they help you masturbate when you cell mate it in the shower.
Diet, yes, the very reason so many Americans (including yourself) are obese... continue?
I am not interested in your wet dreams when you have oral sex with an a$$(you mommy)
You question is just an irrelevant and failed attempt wind up based on bigotry and deliberate igg’rance (same thing really) with a sprinkling of buck lies added... basically, exactly what is expected from you.
Because the word "lair" is so overused in this forum. It has no value. The word is cheap and meaningless. I avoid using it for that reason and I hope you also will consider using a phrase or word that has more value.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#234905 Aug 19, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
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I read the cited study with great interest. It is the first effort that I've seen to delineate subcategories within the unaffiliated or "nones" category used in both the Pew Forum's Religious Landscape Study and Trinity College's American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS).
Interestingly enough, they found that the principles I've written about over the last few years were pretty much on target: that the ranges of identification, attitudes, beliefs, and profiles within the larger categories of nonbelievers and the unaffiliated vary too widely to allow for any justifiable stereotypes.
I suspect that the study's authors would also agree that the subcategories are also flexible to the point that many if not most individuals may have qualities that mix those of the various categories. I doubt that they would agree that science finds that all New Atheists are narcissistic and mean, but I did notice that the semantics and tone gave the impression that the writers viewed some of the subcategories more favorably than others.
I realize that not all Atheist are mean, crude, irreverent, belligerent and narcissist. You are one of the most respectful Atheist that has ever visited the forum. I would that your fellow topix Atheist had your level of mannerism and respectfulness.

But the overwhelming majority of the Atheist post on this topix channel are on the opposite spectrum as yourself. You bring a certain level of dignity and respect to your post. Never compromising your core belief but at the same time never being overwhelming offensive.

Your opinions are always welcome and your example is most appreciated.[tipping hat]
Patrick

United States

#234906 Aug 19, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I'm neither gay nor homophobic.
You're not homophobic are you?
Your jesus was a gay - proof here:
http://www.sm elly/jesus-p-407.html
http://www.smm.com/images/jesusgay.jpg
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If you believe there is no life but this one,
why do you waste your time as a troll?

Doubt if many people care what your preferences are, at this late date, in your posting?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#234907 Aug 19, 2014
Patrick wrote:
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Since Atheism as a philosophy leads nowhere enjoy some films, read a few books and enjoy your life?
Troll use of -godbots- LOL, seems to give away your insecurity ?
Your misunderstanding of atheism is not my problem.

Atheism is a philosophy like not collecting stamps is a hobby.

So you are saying that you are not a godbot or that you object to being called a godbot?

And of course you projection of your insecurity when faced with atheism is astounding even by the high standard of insecurity in the face of atheism usually displayed by your type of ignorance
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#234908 Aug 19, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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Explain to me why Christianity is not the dominant religion in the middle east since that is the supposed birth place of Jesus? The beginning of the Christians. The only Christian believing nations are the most far from it.
You realize of course that Jesus Christ was a Jew. And Judaism is intertwined into Christianity. And there’s a lot of Jews living in Israel.

The fire of Christianity started in that region this is true. It spread to Europe and Asia. But to answer your question more precisely. It’s the same reason why Atheism is not the dominant belief in the region. Christianity nor Atheism (so far) doesn’t require one to convert by force with the option of refusing being- having your head cut off.

The true level of Christianity is not known in the region because of the bias, and radical extremism towards Christians. And the same goes for Atheism.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#234909 Aug 19, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Because the word "lair" is so overused in this forum. It has no value. The word is cheap and meaningless. I avoid using it for that reason and I hope you also will consider using a phrase or word that has more value.
Nope, the word has not lost its value to me. I still consider a liar to be a liar, however you are welcome to the good old christian tradition of twisting the meaning of words... morality, truth, theory all come to mind.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#234910 Aug 19, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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I am a preacher. Send me $50 and plant a seed of prosperity, you will receive a blessing within 12 months, send me a $100 and your seed will produce a windfall within 6 months. Send me a thousand dollars and your big seed will produce a virtual harvest of blessings. I might even pray for you, will send you a prayer cloth of this special made paper.
Glory Hallelujah Amen brother. Send in your money and see yourself PROSPER!!!
Also there’s plenty of fake and incompetent Medical Doctors practicing and taking money from patients. That doesn’t mean there’s not real genuine Medical Doctors out there.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#234911 Aug 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope, the word has not lost its value to me. I still consider a liar to be a liar, however you are welcome to the good old christian tradition of twisting the meaning of words... morality, truth, theory all come to mind.
The law of economics my good friend. That which is common is cheap and that which is rare is valuable. This is why no one wants to have an ordinary sedimentary
rock mounted for a ring.

If you think it’s valuable and cool you go right on ahead. But when you’re ready to sell it all you are going to get is a laugh.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#234912 Aug 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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I really don’t care if you protest it or not, you post make the fact plain
this may be a bit off topic, but i'd be remiss if i didn't ask; how much hair do you keep down there?;-)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#234913 Aug 19, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Well what you are told and what is fact seem to be in disagreement, perhaps you should consider this when you next look at your babble.
Far closer to the nazi/fascist movement are the tea party and other right wing hard liners and radical christian bigots in your neck of the woods.
how's about ya'll work on curbing your islamic fascism from taking over all of europe and we'll continue our tea party celebration of freedom?
Patrick

United States

#234914 Aug 19, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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this may be a bit off topic, but i'd be remiss if i didn't ask; how much hair do you keep down there?;-)
a bit :-)
-Graham Green - Bio
After leaving Oxford, Greene worked for a period of time as a private tutor and then turned to journalism – first on the Nottingham Journal,and then as a sub-editor on The Times. While he was working in Nottingham, he started corresponding with Vivien Dayrell-Browning, who had written to him to correct him on a point of Catholic doctrine. Greene was an agnostic at the time, but when he later began to think about marrying Vivien, it occurred to him that, as he puts it in A Sort of Life, he "ought at least to learn the nature and limits of the beliefs she held". Greene was baptised on 26 February 1926 and they married on 15 October 1927 at St Mary's Church, Hampstead, North London.

Greene's first published novel was The Man Within (1929). Favourable reception emboldened him to quit his sub-editor job at The Times and work as a full-time novelist. The next two books, The Name of Action (1930) and Rumour at Nightfall (1932), were unsuccessful; and he later disowned them. His first true success was Stamboul Train (1932) which was taken on by the Book Society and adapted as the film Orient Express (1934).
Patrick

United States

#234915 Aug 19, 2014
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He supplemented his novelist's income with freelance journalism, book and film reviews for The Spectator, and co-editing the magazine Night and Day. Greene's 1937 film review of Wee Willie Winkie, for Night and Day, which said that the nine-year-old star, Shirley Temple, displayed "a dubious coquetry" which appealed to "middle-aged men and clergymen", provoked Twentieth Century Fox to successfully sue for £3,500 plus costs, which resulted in the magazine folding, and Greene leaving the UK to live in Mexico until after the trial was over. While in Mexico, Greene developed the ideas for the novel considered his masterpiece, The Power and the Glory.

As his career lengthened, both Greene and his readers found the distinction between entertainments and novels increasingly problematic. The last book Greene termed an entertainment was Our Man in Havana in 1958.

Greene also wrote short stories and plays, which were well received, although he was always first and foremost a novelist. His first play, The Living Room, debuted in 1953 He collected the 1948 James Tait Black Memorial Prize for The Heart of the Matter.
Patrick

United States

#234916 Aug 19, 2014
--3-
Greene was an intelligent and sophisticated playwright. His first play written directly for the stage was "The Living Room" (1953), a powerful drama of suicide and despair which starred Dorothy Tutin. It was followed by

"The Potting Shed" (1957), a drama about an atheist's pact with God, and "The Complaisant Lover"

(1959), a comedy of manners in which a husband and lover knowingly share a wife's favors, which starred Michael Redgrave. Many of his played were televised.
Thinking

Warwick, UK

#234917 Aug 19, 2014
Hey Lincock, why are you cutting and pasting from IMDB?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001294/bio

Belief has turned your brain to mush.
Patrick wrote:
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a bit :-)
-Graham Green - Bio
After leaving Oxford, Greene worked for a period of time as a private tutor and then turned to journalism – first on the Nottingham Journal,and then as a sub-editor on The Times. While he was working in Nottingham, he started corresponding with Vivien Dayrell-Browning, who had written to him to correct him on a point of Catholic doctrine. Greene was an agnostic at the time, but when he later began to think about marrying Vivien, it occurred to him that, as he puts it in A Sort of Life, he "ought at least to learn the nature and limits of the beliefs she held". Greene was baptised on 26 February 1926 and they married on 15 October 1927 at St Mary's Church, Hampstead, North London.
Greene's first published novel was The Man Within (1929). Favourable reception emboldened him to quit his sub-editor job at The Times and work as a full-time novelist. The next two books, The Name of Action (1930) and Rumour at Nightfall (1932), were unsuccessful; and he later disowned them. His first true success was Stamboul Train (1932) which was taken on by the Book Society and adapted as the film Orient Express (1934).
Patrick

United States

#234918 Aug 19, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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this may be a bit off topic, but i'd be remiss if i didn't ask; how much hair do you keep down there?;-)
I like your a bit off topic stuff.
Try to read some of the other posters for fun

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#234919 Aug 19, 2014
Patrick wrote:
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I like your a bit off topic stuff.
Try to read some of the other posters for fun
i just read your tedious 'greene does vivian' novel and i'm wondering if this counts and where's the 'fun'?

just kidding partner - lol!

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