Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

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#233820 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahah. ..
I have been arguing with a complete moron!
Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha...
Yeah were in the same boat, we just tow in different directions.
Will we make out out of the moron club?
Only if you row toward infinity stupid, quit towing toward zero.

BwahahahahahahhahahahahahaBwah ahahahahahhahahahahahaBwahahah ahahahhahahahahahaBwahahahahah ahhahahahahaha insert infinite number of Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha's

Since: Sep 08

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#233821 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> You can't have the past without a future , doofus.
Use your computer's calculator and give us the last number possible you can count to.
Tell us how many seconds to the last second, there will ever be.
Tell us when the final calendar will be issued because time runs out after that.
Time gets real confused when you have to translate it into a value.

See how long it takes to say 906,544,633,321,488,947,213 when counting seconds.

How many digital places before your counting machine working at the speed of light trips over its self?

You can tick, tick, tick, but you have to turn them into a value to use in calculations.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#233822 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahah. ..
I have been arguing with a complete moron!
Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha...
Bwahaha is what you always say when you are embarrassed and have no come back.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#233823 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Circular reasoning.
Your statement should read:
"There is no completed infinity in physical reality, and there can be none".
In a physical infinity, all the parts would be infinite.
So "less than", "equal to", and "larger than" would be the same.
This can be true in no coherent representation of reality.
Therefore, infinity cannot be included in any coherent representation of reality.
Creationism is circular reasoning - first you lie about god, then you tell some more lies when everyone realises you are going around in circles.

When you are caught, you either say "bwahaha" or tell more lies about atheists.

When you are caught lying about atheists, you start talking about catholic hitler.

When people point out that hiltler was catholic, you start taking about neocon politics.

Face buck & Dave you and your creationist cult are jokes and nothing more.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#233824 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Time gets real confused when you have to translate it into a value.
See how long it takes to say 906,544,633,321,488,947,213 when counting seconds.
How many digital places before your counting machine working at the speed of light trips over its self?
You can tick, tick, tick, but you have to turn them into a value to use in calculations.
Time is only confusing to inbred creationists who reject science.
Growupchildren

London, UK

#233825 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Time gets real confused when you have to translate it into a value.
See how long it takes to say 906,544,633,321,488,947,213 when counting seconds.
How many digital places before your counting machine working at the speed of light trips over its self?
You can tick, tick, tick, but you have to turn them into a value to use in calculations.
Are you really that stupid? The value is the number you wrote. Saying it out is not a value, that's just the name of the number.

What a complete ignoramus!!!!!

And this is. The guy trying to sell us his god!!!!

LMAO
Growupchildren

London, UK

#233826 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Because you can't count to infinity, in a finite amount of time.
It's not circular, it's reality. If you could count to infinity, it would be finite.
Not content with not believing Atheists are real, these creationist now deny infinity itself!!!

“Ditat Deus”

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#233827 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:

Because you can't count to infinity, in a finite amount of time.
It's not circular, it's reality. If you could count to infinity, it would be finite.
That's Cantor's philosophy - the unending list of countable natural numbers. He disagreed with you, called it "countable infinity". It's hogwash. Every number that's naturally countable is finite. There's no way that numbers can count 1,2,3,4,5,6......infinity. No way.

The only thing that's actual about infinity is the concept of it. Outside the concept, infinity doesn't exist.

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#233828 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Because you can't count to infinity, in a finite amount of time.
It's not circular, it's reality. If you could count to infinity, it would be finite.
If the universe is infinite, it counted to infinity. In a finite amount of time.

It expanded like this: 1,2,3,....infinity.

Why would you say you can't count to infinity but the universe can expand to infinity?

It's the same thing.

religionisillnes s

London, UK

#233829 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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That's Cantor's philosophy - the unending list of countable natural numbers. He disagreed with you, called it "countable infinity". It's hogwash. Every number that's naturally countable is finite. There's no way that numbers can count 1,2,3,4,5,6......infinity. No way.
The only thing that's actual about infinity is the concept of it. Outside the concept, infinity doesn't exist.
Infinity doesn't exist you say?

Then tell me, what is the mass / density of black hole?

It has zero volume and sucks everything up better than your hoover.

Or do you ignorantly deny black holes exist too?
religionisillnes s

London, UK

#233830 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
<quoted text>
That's Cantor's philosophy - the unending list of countable natural numbers. He disagreed with you, called it "countable infinity". It's hogwash. Every number that's naturally countable is finite. There's no way that numbers can count 1,2,3,4,5,6......infinity. No way.
The only thing that's actual about infinity is the concept of it. Outside the concept, infinity doesn't exist.
This is about as stupid as denying microwaves because they aren't "seeable waves".

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233831 Jul 29, 2014
Growupchildren wrote:
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Are you really that stupid? The value is the number you wrote. Saying it out is not a value, that's just the name of the number.
What a complete ignoramus!!!!!
And this is. The guy trying to sell us his god!!!!
LMAO
The value takes time and space to keep track of.

You have a familiar childish ring to your posts.

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#233832 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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That's Cantor's philosophy - the unending list of countable natural numbers. He disagreed with you, called it "countable infinity". It's hogwash. Every number that's naturally countable is finite. There's no way that numbers can count 1,2,3,4,5,6......infinity. No way.
The only thing that's actual about infinity is the concept of it. Outside the concept, infinity doesn't exist.
You are correct.

Infinity is an abstraction. It represents nothing in reality.

It is not even actually represented in transfinite math. It's only symbolically represented.

Nothing physical can be infinite.

“Ditat Deus”

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#233833 Jul 29, 2014
religionisillness wrote:

Infinity doesn't exist you say?
Then tell me, what is the mass / density of black hole?
It has zero volume and sucks everything up better than your hoover.
Or do you ignorantly deny black holes exist too?
Quantum theory enables energy and information to escape a black hole. Assuming black holes even exist, of course. That's one hell of an assumption.

“Ditat Deus”

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#233834 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
You are correct.
Infinity is an abstraction. It represents nothing in reality.
It is not even actually represented in transfinite math. It's only symbolically represented.
Nothing physical can be infinite.
Yup. Things can seem infinite, like the grains of sand on the beach or the stars in the universe, but it's only a concept. Or as you called it - an abstraction.

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#233835 Jul 29, 2014
religionisillness wrote:
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Infinity doesn't exist you say?
Then tell me, what is the mass / density of black hole?
It has zero volume and sucks everything up better than your hoover.
Or do you ignorantly deny black holes exist too?
Show me the infinite black hole.

A picture will suffice.

Zoom in on the infinite part, please.

Do you know you are a moron?

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233836 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Show me the infinite black hole.
A picture will suffice.
Zoom in on the infinite part, please.
Do you know you are a moron?
Wish I could have copied and pasted his post with this.

Zero volume, eh? Sucks up better than a Hoover, eh?

Where does it store this stuff?

If it doesn't store, then you have a shrinking universe.

If it relocates this stuff, where is the evidence of a mysterious appearance of matter and energy?

Put it in a comic book and these guys will believe anything.

“Ditat Deus”

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#233837 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me the infinite black hole.
A picture will suffice.
Zoom in on the infinite part, please.
Do you know you are a moron?
Maybe global warming er, um, climate change affects black holes.

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religionisillnes s

London, UK

#233838 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Quantum theory enables energy and information to escape a black hole. Assuming black holes even exist, of course. That's one hell of an assumption.
You don't know what you're talking about.

Black holes are observable evidence you twit.
religionisillnes s

London, UK

#233839 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Yup. Things can seem infinite, like the grains of sand on the beach or the stars in the universe, but it's only a concept. Or as you called it - an abstraction.
Infinity exists, whether you believe in it or not.

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