Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#233561 Jul 26, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Cosmological infinities
Another type of infinity arises in gravitation theory and cosmology. Einstein's theory of general relativity suggests that an expanding Universe (as we observe ours to be) started at a time in the finite past when its density was infinite — this is what we call the Big Bang. Einstein's theory also predicts that if you fell into a black hole, and there are many black holes in our Galaxy and nearby, you would encounter an infinite density at the centre. These infinities, if they do exist, would be actual infinities.
http://plus.maths.org/content/does-infinity-e...
You should stick to football and the constitution, Goofus.
Predictions from theoretical math.

Have all your infinities you want in theoretical math.

In physical reality, I proved you can have none. By definition.

"Infinity and zero are abstract mathematical constructs which we use to describe what a system is tending towards. The mathematical philosophy behind this is not too difficult to grasp because these abstractions are unrealisable by self-definition."

"As with many physics theories, infinity is only a concept that fixes certain problems. In the literal sense it may not, and in the case of infinity, does not literally exist in nature. Since the universe had a beginning, it cannot contain infinity."

Patrick

United States

#233562 Jul 26, 2014
Happy News for a change

In the wake of the revelation from the U.S. Department of Heath and Human Services, which indicated that some unaccompanied miigrant children had already been settled into Idaho, it turns out that the vast majority of children arriving in the U.S. from Central America are already in the custody of relatives.

And the New York Times is reporting that a total of 30,340 migrant children have been released to sponsors, according to the Office of Refugee Resettlement.
Children who are not able to find qualified sponsors (about 10 percent of the total) are placed in long-term shelters or foster care.

The majority of the children are from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#233563 Jul 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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An infinite density of what?
Einstein's infinite stupidity of people?
It also calls for the infinite curvature of space and the infinite dilation of time.
The Kerr metric. But you christards will spew out what you like, and reject what you don't.
It's all part of your brain damage you suffer as a gawdbot. Sorry, you deserve the sauce for the goose.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#233564 Jul 26, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Predictions from theoretical math.
Have all your infinities you want in theoretical math.
In physical reality, I proved you can have none. By definition.
"Infinity and zero are abstract mathematical constructs which we use to describe what a system is tending towards. The mathematical philosophy behind this is not too difficult to grasp because these abstractions are unrealisable by self-definition."
"As with many physics theories, infinity is only a concept that fixes certain problems. In the literal sense it may not, and in the case of infinity, does not literally exist in nature. Since the universe had a beginning, it cannot contain infinity."
Blah blah blah, gee you never said that before goofus.Did you sharpen your football bat, and are you wearing your donut halo? lol

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233565 Jul 26, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Predictions from theoretical math.
Have all your infinities you want in theoretical math.
In physical reality, I proved you can have none. By definition.
"Infinity and zero are abstract mathematical constructs which we use to describe what a system is tending towards. The mathematical philosophy behind this is not too difficult to grasp because these abstractions are unrealisable by self-definition."
"As with many physics theories, infinity is only a concept that fixes certain problems. In the literal sense it may not, and in the case of infinity, does not literally exist in nature. Since the universe had a beginning, it cannot contain infinity."
I posted something like this a long time ago about present day math, but will do again. Very easy to understsand and see how errors can creep into calculations and speculations.

You can take a two mile length of a single object such as a big block of rock and graph it, using those theoretical center points, and divide it into 2 lengths called a mile. Understand this is one object.

But if you took two one mile lengths and butted them together as tight as you can, you will have a total length longer than two miles. Why? Two separate objects can't share the same start and stop points. They are two separate continuums. So you have an extra space in between. A break in the continuum. These will add up with each addition. No way around that.

This occurs on the subatomic to the universal scale. Compounded on the atomic scale because of force fields. Not for just length, but for volumes, also. Anything that occupies its own space. It is an inherent failure of the present math system.

Numbers don't lie, but the additions, and subtractions, can be quite mistaken, especially when you get into astronomical measurements.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#233566 Jul 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I posted something like this a long time ago about present day math, but will do again. Very easy to understsand and see how errors can creep into calculations and speculations.
You can take a two mile length of a single object such as a big block of rock and graph it, using those theoretical center points, and divide it into 2 lengths called a mile. Understand this is one object.
But if you took two one mile lengths and butted them together as tight as you can, you will have a total length longer than two miles. Why? Two separate objects can't share the same start and stop points. They are two separate continuums. So you have an extra space in between. A break in the continuum. These will add up with each addition. No way around that.
This occurs on the subatomic to the universal scale. Compounded on the atomic scale because of force fields. Not for just length, but for volumes, also. Anything that occupies its own space. It is an inherent failure of the present math system.
Numbers don't lie, but the additions, and subtractions, can be quite mistaken, especially when you get into astronomical measurements.

You have a nearly 100% failure rate.
But you can clear it up right now, just give us the final dimensions of the universe.
So it can be finite for you.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233567 Jul 26, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You have a nearly 100% failure rate.
But you can clear it up right now, just give us the final dimensions of the universe.
So it can be finite for you.
Huh?

It is up to you to prove "infinity" is an actual "thing" as you have been representing it. Mental cases see "things" that aren't there. Prove your sanity. It is in question.

So the errors of math concepts relating to real world physics I pointed out escapes you, eh?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#233568 Jul 26, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Happy News for a change
In the wake of the revelation from the U.S. Department of Heath and Human Services, which indicated that some unaccompanied miigrant children had already been settled into Idaho, it turns out that the vast majority of children arriving in the U.S. from Central America are already in the custody of relatives.
And the New York Times is reporting that a total of 30,340 migrant children have been released to sponsors, according to the Office of Refugee Resettlement.
Children who are not able to find qualified sponsors (about 10 percent of the total) are placed in long-term shelters or foster care.
The majority of the children are from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.
15% of the Honduras population resides in the USA.

Sup wit dat?!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#233569 Jul 26, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Happy News for a change
In the wake of the revelation from the U.S. Department of Heath and Human Services, which indicated that some unaccompanied miigrant children had already been settled into Idaho, it turns out that the vast majority of children arriving in the U.S. from Central America are already in the custody of relatives.
And the New York Times is reporting that a total of 30,340 migrant children have been released to sponsors, according to the Office of Refugee Resettlement.
Children who are not able to find qualified sponsors (about 10 percent of the total) are placed in long-term shelters or foster care.
The majority of the children are from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.
If they came here with the intent of living with extended family then they aren't refugees.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#233570 Jul 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Huh?
It is up to you to prove "infinity" is an actual "thing" as you have been representing it. Mental cases see "things" that aren't there. Prove your sanity. It is in question.
So the errors of math concepts relating to real world physics I pointed out escapes you, eh?
I could never convince you of anything, you godbot .
Godbots don't know anything either...it exceeds their programing.

"Something very odd can happen if we assume that our Universe will eventually stop expanding and contract back to another infinity, a big crunch. That big crunch could be non-simultaneous because some parts of the Universe, where there are galaxies and so on, are denser than others. The places that are denser will run into their future infinities before the low-density regions. If we were in a bit of the Universe that had a greatly delayed future infinity, or even none at all, then we could look back and see the end of the Universe happening in other places — we would see something infinite. You might see evidence of space and time coming to an end elsewhere."

http://plus.maths.org/content/does-infinity-e...

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233571 Jul 26, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I could never convince you of anything, you godbot .
Godbots don't know anything either...it exceeds their programing.
"Something very odd can happen if we assume that our Universe will eventually stop expanding and contract back to another infinity, a big crunch. That big crunch could be non-simultaneous because some parts of the Universe, where there are galaxies and so on, are denser than others. The places that are denser will run into their future infinities before the low-density regions. If we were in a bit of the Universe that had a greatly delayed future infinity, or even none at all, then we could look back and see the end of the Universe happening in other places — we would see something infinite. You might see evidence of space and time coming to an end elsewhere."
http://plus.maths.org/content/does-infinity-e...
"another infinity"
"future infinities"
"a greatly delayed future infinity, or even none at all"
"we would see something infinite"

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-deprogram...

But I suggest you, or rather your family members, get professional help. You may have a hard wiring issue.
Patrick

United States

#233572 Jul 26, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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If they came here with the intent of living with extended family then they aren't refugees.
Democrats in 2014

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#233573 Jul 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"another infinity"
"future infinities"
"a greatly delayed future infinity, or even none at all"
"we would see something infinite"
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-deprogram...
But I suggest you, or rather your family members, get professional help. You may have a hard wiring issue.
Pfft You don't have permission to type to me anymore.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233574 Jul 26, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Pfft You don't have permission to type to me anymore.
Is that for a fixed infinity, an indefinite infinity, or an eternal infinity?

:-)
Patrick

United States

#233575 Jul 26, 2014
By a 5–4 vote on Monday, the United States Supreme Court settled a dispute that Justice Samuel Alito said was “at its core about the rights of women versus the rights of people.”

Writing for the majority, Justice Alito wrote,“It is the duty of this Court, whenever it sees that the rights of people are being threatened, to do our best to safeguard those rights. In this case, it is clear that people’s rights were being threatened by women.”

Acknowledging that some women “might argue that they, too, have some claim to being people,” Justice Alito wrote,“That is an interesting question for another day.”

While the Court’s decision caused an uproar across the country, it received a big thumbs-up from one of the Justices who voted with the majority, Antonin Scalia.

“This has been a crappy year or so around here, what with all that gay-marriage stuff, but at least we finished strong,” he said.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#233576 Jul 26, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Predictions from theoretical math.
Have all your infinities you want in theoretical math.
In physical reality, I proved you can have none. By definition.
"Infinity and zero are abstract mathematical constructs which we use to describe what a system is tending towards. The mathematical philosophy behind this is not too difficult to grasp because these abstractions are unrealisable by self-definition."
"As with many physics theories, infinity is only a concept that fixes certain problems. In the literal sense it may not, and in the case of infinity, does not literally exist in nature. Since the universe had a beginning, it cannot contain infinity."
You proved nothing, but you do exert a clear disdain for the idea there actually maybe a physical one. That would just blow your head clean off . No not through the car window, like a headless Buck, the thing you hate worse than infinity, the part where you are...cough. Let me see I suppose that's impossible too ?

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#233577 Jul 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Is that for a fixed infinity, an indefinite infinity, or an eternal infinity?
:-)
A numerical one.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#233578 Jul 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Is that for a fixed infinity, an indefinite infinity, or an eternal infinity?
:-)
BTW you still don't have permission to post to me anymore. That privilege has been revoked. What do you think you're Putin or something?
Aura holds up a spoon and say's...."don't make me use this!".

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#233579 Jul 26, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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15% of the Honduras population resides in the USA.
Sup wit dat?!
Well, lots of people are unable to just pick up and move!

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#233580 Jul 26, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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If they came here with the intent of living with extended family then they aren't refugees.
OK, OK, so stifle it.

And Hitler wasn't Christian, we know.

Geez.

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