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# Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

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#233812 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:

Infinity can never be proved, it takes an infinite amount of time to prove.
There is no complete infinity that can be measured.
Then why the debate?

And why would it take an infinite amount of time to prove infinity? Is that more circular logic or what.....

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#233813 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Infinity can never be proved, it takes an infinite amount of time to prove.
There is no complete infinity that can be measured.
Circular reasoning.

"There is no completed infinity in physical reality, and there can be none".

In a physical infinity, all the parts would be infinite.

So "less than", "equal to", and "larger than" would be the same.

This can be true in no coherent representation of reality.

Therefore, infinity cannot be included in any coherent representation of reality.

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233814 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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WRONG
Time is not "infinitely" moving anywhere.
The next "now" is the next finite sum of time, and the next one is, and always will be.
There is no point in time when the addition of another unit surpasses finite and becomes infinite.
Never. It's impossible.
Congratulations. Just when I thought you could not think of another way to lose this argument, you came up with one.
Amazing.
You can't have the past without a future , doofus.
Use your computer's calculator and give us the last number possible you can count to.
Tell us how many seconds to the last second, there will ever be.
Tell us when the final calendar will be issued because time runs out after that.

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Since: Dec 10

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#233815 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Circular reasoning.
"There is no completed infinity in physical reality, and there can be none".
In a physical infinity, all the parts would be infinite.
So "less than", "equal to", and "larger than" would be the same.
This can be true in no coherent representation of reality.
Therefore, infinity cannot be included in any coherent representation of reality.
The cosmological event horizon is the actual physical completed infinity, impossible to measure.

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#233816 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> You can't have the past without a future , doofus.
Use your computer's calculator and give us the last number possible you can count to.
Tell us how many seconds to the last second, there will ever be.
Tell us when the final calendar will be issued because time runs out after that.
Bwahahahahahahahahhahahahahahh a....

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#233817 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The cosmological event horizon is the actual physical completed infinity, impossible to measure.
Bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahah. ..

I have been arguing with a complete moron!

Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha...

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#233818 Jul 29, 2014
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You have been repeatedly shown to have very little understanding of anything Dave.
Give me the figure of space curvature the amount of time dilation the total gravity and density predicted by general relativity within a singularity.
Space curvature is an effect of gravity affecting the ability to observe. Time is nothing but a measute of motion relative to an observing point. Your time dilation is just a confusion, as is that idea proposed of leaving and returning younger that is so popular.

There are, a lot of errors in cosmological observation caused by math models using fixed quantities derived from observation locally in this gravity well. Gravity affects the geometry and dimensions of atomic structure. Your unit of "1" here will vary within the universe. That relates to your beloved infinity.

Do some thinking instead of cutting and pasting.

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#233819 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Then why the debate?
And why would it take an infinite amount of time to prove infinity? Is that more circular logic or what.....
Because you can't count to infinity, in a finite amount of time.
It's not circular, it's reality. If you could count to infinity, it would be finite.

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#233820 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahah. ..
I have been arguing with a complete moron!
Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha...
Yeah were in the same boat, we just tow in different directions.
Will we make out out of the moron club?
Only if you row toward infinity stupid, quit towing toward zero.

BwahahahahahahhahahahahahaBwah ahahahahahhahahahahahaBwahahah ahahahhahahahahahaBwahahahahah ahhahahahahaha insert infinite number of Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha's

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#233821 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> You can't have the past without a future , doofus.
Use your computer's calculator and give us the last number possible you can count to.
Tell us how many seconds to the last second, there will ever be.
Tell us when the final calendar will be issued because time runs out after that.
Time gets real confused when you have to translate it into a value.

See how long it takes to say 906,544,633,321,488,947,213 when counting seconds.

How many digital places before your counting machine working at the speed of light trips over its self?

You can tick, tick, tick, but you have to turn them into a value to use in calculations.
Growupchildren

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#233822 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahah. ..
I have been arguing with a complete moron!
Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha...
Bwahaha is what you always say when you are embarrassed and have no come back.

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Growupchildren

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#233823 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Circular reasoning.
"There is no completed infinity in physical reality, and there can be none".
In a physical infinity, all the parts would be infinite.
So "less than", "equal to", and "larger than" would be the same.
This can be true in no coherent representation of reality.
Therefore, infinity cannot be included in any coherent representation of reality.
Creationism is circular reasoning - first you lie about god, then you tell some more lies when everyone realises you are going around in circles.

When you are caught, you either say "bwahaha" or tell more lies about atheists.

When you are caught lying about atheists, you start talking about catholic hitler.

When people point out that hiltler was catholic, you start taking about neocon politics.

Face buck & Dave you and your creationist cult are jokes and nothing more.

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Growupchildren

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#233824 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Time gets real confused when you have to translate it into a value.
See how long it takes to say 906,544,633,321,488,947,213 when counting seconds.
How many digital places before your counting machine working at the speed of light trips over its self?
You can tick, tick, tick, but you have to turn them into a value to use in calculations.
Time is only confusing to inbred creationists who reject science.

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Growupchildren

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#233825 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Time gets real confused when you have to translate it into a value.
See how long it takes to say 906,544,633,321,488,947,213 when counting seconds.
How many digital places before your counting machine working at the speed of light trips over its self?
You can tick, tick, tick, but you have to turn them into a value to use in calculations.
Are you really that stupid? The value is the number you wrote. Saying it out is not a value, that's just the name of the number.

What a complete ignoramus!!!!!

And this is. The guy trying to sell us his god!!!!

LMAO

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Growupchildren

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#233826 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Because you can't count to infinity, in a finite amount of time.
It's not circular, it's reality. If you could count to infinity, it would be finite.
Not content with not believing Atheists are real, these creationist now deny infinity itself!!!

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RiversideRedneck

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#233827 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:

Because you can't count to infinity, in a finite amount of time.
It's not circular, it's reality. If you could count to infinity, it would be finite.
That's Cantor's philosophy - the unending list of countable natural numbers. He disagreed with you, called it "countable infinity". It's hogwash. Every number that's naturally countable is finite. There's no way that numbers can count 1,2,3,4,5,6......infinity. No way.

The only thing that's actual about infinity is the concept of it. Outside the concept, infinity doesn't exist.

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#233828 Jul 29, 2014
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Because you can't count to infinity, in a finite amount of time.
It's not circular, it's reality. If you could count to infinity, it would be finite.
If the universe is infinite, it counted to infinity. In a finite amount of time.

It expanded like this: 1,2,3,....infinity.

Why would you say you can't count to infinity but the universe can expand to infinity?

It's the same thing.

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religionisillnes s

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#233829 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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That's Cantor's philosophy - the unending list of countable natural numbers. He disagreed with you, called it "countable infinity". It's hogwash. Every number that's naturally countable is finite. There's no way that numbers can count 1,2,3,4,5,6......infinity. No way.
The only thing that's actual about infinity is the concept of it. Outside the concept, infinity doesn't exist.
Infinity doesn't exist you say?

Then tell me, what is the mass / density of black hole?

It has zero volume and sucks everything up better than your hoover.

Or do you ignorantly deny black holes exist too?

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religionisillnes s

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#233830 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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That's Cantor's philosophy - the unending list of countable natural numbers. He disagreed with you, called it "countable infinity". It's hogwash. Every number that's naturally countable is finite. There's no way that numbers can count 1,2,3,4,5,6......infinity. No way.
The only thing that's actual about infinity is the concept of it. Outside the concept, infinity doesn't exist.
This is about as stupid as denying microwaves because they aren't "seeable waves".

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#233831 Jul 29, 2014
Growupchildren wrote:
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Are you really that stupid? The value is the number you wrote. Saying it out is not a value, that's just the name of the number.
What a complete ignoramus!!!!!
And this is. The guy trying to sell us his god!!!!
LMAO
The value takes time and space to keep track of.

You have a familiar childish ring to your posts.

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