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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

United States

#233780 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Buck there is no assignable dimension to the unobservable.
That's exactly the same as looking at the surface of the water and then saying,
Its not deep here, without a single measurement. Theists are great with this logic though,
because they simply believe things without evidence.
In the case of the universe, all the evidence shows us its dimension is infinite.
Your belief is trumped in the face of general relativity and event horizons.
Really now? All the evidence, eh?

How did they come up with the BBT, then? Or things like laws of thermodynamics?

The stuff you have been presenting has certain logical processes that are quite likely, however, you are inserting too many vague unknowns and coming up with a false model you trapped yourself into worshipping.

You have to turn those into a technology that works like any applied science before it becomes real.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233781 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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The water may be deep or shallow, nobody can say if they can't see the bottom or measure it.
But we know the depth is finite.
Every physical dimension is finite.
You are absurd.
It's funny, really.
If what you say hold true you can tell us the sum of all time, till there is no more time.
Whats that number Buck?

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233782 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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If it's unobservable, how do you know it exceeds finite dimension?
Even if exceeding finite dimension were possible, which it is not.
Your problem is you don't know what infiniite means. You are using it the same way cosmologists use it when they throw the meaning of the term out and substitute it for "unknown".
On strict analysis, that practice is shown to be wrong by more serious mathematicians and physicists.
Your infinite universe sounds so grand. But it's bull shit.
We are exceeding a finite dimension with every second that ticks. Et's 11:42 oop 11:43.
With space/time and time dilation and acceleration beyond c, infinity becomes the reality.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233783 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Really now? All the evidence, eh?
How did they come up with the BBT, then? Or things like laws of thermodynamics?
The stuff you have been presenting has certain logical processes that are quite likely, however, you are inserting too many vague unknowns and coming up with a false model you trapped yourself into worshipping.
You have to turn those into a technology that works like any applied science before it becomes real.
I could be wrong, it's very possible I am.
Prove general relativity is wrong, and I am wrong.
Patrick

Newberry, SC

#233784 Jul 29, 2014
"Nothing can be infinite" except his posts of "Nothing can be infinite"
LOL
Patrick

Newberry, SC

#233785 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Obama learned about it on the news.
A broad-based coalition of millionaires converged on Washington today to defeat a bill that would have increased the minimum wage for American workers to $10.10 an hour.

Leaving behind their mansions and yachts, the millionaires were motivated by what they saw as an existential threat to the country, Mitch McConnell, a spokesman for the millionaires, said.

“This was an extremely diverse coalition,” McConnell said, noting that everyone from the rich to the very rich to the super-rich united to vote down the bill.

McConnell hoped that today’s vote would burnish the millionaires’ reputation as “people who get things done.”

“Folks who have tried to pin a ‘do nothing’ label on us are dead wrong,” he said.“When it comes to stopping workers from being paid more, we spring into action.”

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#233786 Jul 29, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Really now? All the evidence, eh?
How did they come up with the BBT, then? Or things like laws of thermodynamics?
The stuff you have been presenting has certain logical processes that are quite likely, however, you are inserting too many vague unknowns and coming up with a false model you trapped yourself into worshipping.
You have to turn those into a technology that works like any applied science before it becomes real.
If a quantum theory of gravity is resolved, the infinity maybe then redefined.
So far no one has been able to quantify gravity or show how the grand unification is possible
and the Standard model is wrong. At such a time General and E=mc2 both become obsolete.
GL with that.
Eagle 12

League City, TX

#233787 Jul 29, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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The atheist said two broken beams violate their rights.
Now that they lost, I can only imagine the suffering.
Hindenburg Disaster Broadcast ("Oh, the humanity!")

[Laughing]

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#233788 Jul 29, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
The court has ruled the historic cross-beam will be allowed to stay at the world trade center museum. Atheist wanted this cross-beam tossed because it became a symbol of hope to many after the 911 attacks. It stood above the ashes of a brazen and horrific attack.
There must have been a million of these beams that crossed one another lying in the ruble. A symbol of hope versus no symbol of hope. The courts ruled in favor of letting the historic symbol of hope stand versus the Atheist insistence of hopelessness.
Without hope you have nothing and that’s what Atheist wanted us to have, nothing. But just as it stood out from the ashes today it stands defiant of hopelessness as it has for centuries.
What does the Russian currency have to do with this?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Sacramento, CA

#233789 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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When they report the weather, it's news. When they report facts, it's Faux News.
Go figure.
The Faux News people believe they're entitled to their own facts.

That's part of the problem.
Patrick

Newberry, SC

#233790 Jul 29, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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The Faux News people believe they're entitled to their own facts.
That's part of the problem.
...Yes

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#233791 Jul 29, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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The Faux News people believe they're entitled to their own facts.
That's part of the problem.
What fake news do they report?
Patrick

Newberry, SC

#233792 Jul 29, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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"Dinosaurs didn't have to die off, but the space impact that blasted the Earth some 66 million years ago arrived at a most inopportune moment for the long-time rulers of the planet..."
you mean the flood of Noah's day - glad we're on the same page now!
those gaytheist f*s will believe ANYTHING BUT documented history when it includes our Creator!
fascinating

"Do you believe we really landed on the Moon" .....or was this a conspiracy ;-)

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#233793 Jul 29, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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What fake news do they report?
They engage in the sort of dishonesty you do here.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233794 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I could be wrong, it's very possible I am.
Prove general relativity is wrong, and I am wrong.
I don't think you truly inderstand GR beyond being some math concept. Meaning the actual physics of it. I have no issue with it, I just put it within a larger framework and don't worship it as a something. I am very much into cause and effect. The same goes with quantum. They are effects, not causes, but they have been turned into something more than that.

Since: May 10

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#233795 Jul 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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If what you say hold true you can tell us the sum of all time, till there is no more time.
Whats that number Buck?
Time is a mental construct that represents the passage of events.

There is no time other than that which coincides with the current state of events.

According to cosmology, the number is 13.8 billion years.

13.8 billion years.

Anything else I can help you with?

Now you can help me...

The universe has expanded for 13.8 billion years, so what average rate of expansion would result in the "infinite" dimension you claim?

Answer: None is possible.

13.8 billion x "A" = Infinity; solve for A.

Since: May 10

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#233796 Jul 29, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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They engage in the sort of dishonesty you do here.
"Objection, your honor. Inuendo, not evidence."

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#233797 Jul 29, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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The Faux News people believe they're entitled to their own facts.
That's part of the problem.
you may believe your fascist coalition of socialist 'reporters' if you choose, but it does make you a fascist pig, just so you know....:-)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#233798 Jul 29, 2014
Patrick wrote:
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fascinating
"Do you believe we really landed on the Moon" .....or was this a conspiracy ;-)
what's trully fascinating is that you'll believe the theory of any gaytheist trying to make a name for himself through gaytheist grant money!

'they say'(i.e., the gaytheist 'scientists) that if you stick your head in the toilet and flush, you'll increase your IQ by 5 points!

let me know how it goes;-)

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#233799 Jul 29, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:

They (Fox News) engage in the sort of dishonesty you do here.
Like what? Any examples?

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