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# Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#233363 Jul 23, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Because the distance is infinite the speed becomes infinite, I just gave you the start of a series of expansion rates that moves to infinite moron.
But that besides the point that it became infinite beyond the 14.3 gigaparsecs distance, which at that point nothing will ever interact with anything here, nor anything from here ever interact with anything there you retard yard ape..
Moving toward infinite is not infinite.

"the distance is infinite"

What is the largest finite before it becomes infinite?

When you add to that finite, you get a larger finite.

"the speed becomes infinite"

What is the highest finite speed before it becomes infinite?

What happens if you add to that? It remains finite.

Always.

"it became infinite beyond the 14.3 gigaparsecs distance"

So 14.4 gigaparsecs is infinite.

Great work. 14.3 is finite, but 14.4 is infinite.

You invented yet another way to lose the argument.

Can't wait to see your next new failed invention.

But I salute you on your willingness to lie - getting out of your infinite distance problem by inventing "infinite speed".

You are a determined liar.

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#233364 Jul 23, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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It certainly meets the criteria of the definition in every way jack ass , and you are far too stupid
If this argument were a prize fight, it would have been stopped in the first round.

But you insist on me bloody-ing you for several rounds.

You need a doctor. And lots of ice.

You should not have tried to go up in weight class.

“let's do this thang!”

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#233365 Jul 23, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Buck is far from stupid, but he is extremely stubborn and inflexible. This combined with an ego that prevents him from seriously considering the possibility that others have anything to teach him both limits and masks his intelligence.
gaytheists aren't necessarily 'stupid' in general, but they're willfully ignorant to the power of the Gospel because they LOVE their self-righteousness and darkness rather than Christ's Light/Truth!:-)

“let's do this thang!”

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#233366 Jul 23, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Yes, I am stubborn in my resistance to popular nonsense.
When someone latches on to an abstraction like "infinity", the utility of which is nothing but a mathematical tool for expression of theoretical limits, and tries to make it a physical phenomenon, they have nothing to teach me.
Every intelligent person on this thread knows I am correct and Aura is wrong. I suspect even he knows it, and is too stubborn (there's that word) to admit it.
My quest is not one of ego. My quest is to find someone smarter than me on the planet so as to conquer my ego.
So far, no luck around here.

if we look at the human brain like a computer with memory and acess capabilities, it's true that some have more 'ram' and quicker 'processors'. BUT even still, the best computer without internet access is extremely limited compared to a lesser one that has it.

a person who is born-again and filled with the Holy Spirit is like the human computer with 'internet' access to all the truely important information necessary to live an abundant life. the rest of y'all are thinking you're 'smart' cuz you're getting good at & devolping lingo around things like FreeCell and Minesweeper;-)
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#233367 Jul 23, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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gaytheists aren't necessarily 'stupid' in general, but they're willfully ignorant to the power of the Gospel because they LOVE their self-righteousness and darkness rather than Christ's Light/Truth!:-)
Please define willfully ignorant for us.

Are you willfully ignorant of Islam of Judaism of Taoism?

Are you willfully ignorant of modern science?

Are you willfully ignorant of fossils, of dinosaurs?

I do appreciate you sharing your mythology but that's all it is - mythology.

I challenge you to provide evidence that your God is the only true God in a way religions other than yours cannot do or provide evidence that your holy book is true in a way that religions other than yours cannot do with their holy books.

Now... just how willfully ignorant are you?

Have a great day unless you've made other plans.

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#233368 Jul 23, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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If this argument were a prize fight, it would have been stopped in the first round.
..........
........seem not end in sight

While pressing a 15-day-old offensive, Israel scrambled to contain economic damage from a halt of flights to Tel Aviv's main airport by U.S. and European airlines spooked by the long-range rocket salvoes of Hamas and other Gaza Strip guerrillas.

Adding to pressure on Israel, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said there was "a strong possibility" that it was committing war crimes in Gaza, where 668 Palestinians, mostly civilians, have died in the fighting.

Israel denied the suggestion, stepping up the war of words and accusing Hamas of using fellow Gazans as human shields.

Kerry met Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and was due to see Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before returning to Egypt, which shares a border with Gaza and has mediated with Islamist Hamas.

"We have certainly made some steps forward. There is still work to be done," said Kerry, on one of his most intensive regional visits since the peace negotiations he had brokered between Netanyahu and Abbas broke down in April.

"We are doing this for one simple reason. The people in the Palestinian territories, the people in Israel, are all living under the threat or reality of immediate violence. And this need to end for everybody."

Kerry has been working through Abbas, Egypt and other regional proxies as the United States, like Israel, shuns Hamas as a terrorist group. Hamas brushed off the U.S. diplomat's appeal, saying it would not hold fire without making gains.

"Our interest and that of our people is that no agreement should be made before the conditions of factions of resistance are met," Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri said.

Israel launched its offensive on July 8 to halt rocket salvoes by Hamas and its allies, which have struggled under an Israeli-Egyptian economic blockade on Gaza and angered by a crackdown on their supporters in the nearby occupied West Bank.

After aerial and naval bombardment failed to quell the outgunned guerrillas, Israel poured ground forces into the Gaza Strip last Thursday, looking to knock out Hamas's rocket stores and destroy a vast, underground network of tunnels.

"We are meeting resistance around the tunnels ... they are constantly trying to attack us around and in the tunnels. That is the trend," Israeli military spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Peter Lerner said on Wednesday.

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#233370 Jul 23, 2014
Patrick wrote:
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........seem not end in sight
While pressing a 15-day-old offensive, Israel scrambled to contain economic damage from a halt of flights to Tel Aviv's main airport by U.S. and European airlines spooked by the long-range rocket salvoes of Hamas and other Gaza Strip guerrillas.
Adding to pressure on Israel, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said there was "a strong possibility" that it was committing war crimes in Gaza, where 668 Palestinians, mostly civilians, have died in the fighting.
Israel denied the suggestion, stepping up the war of words and accusing Hamas of using fellow Gazans as human shields.
Kerry met Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and was due to see Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu before returning to Egypt, which shares a border with Gaza and has mediated with Islamist Hamas.
"We have certainly made some steps forward. There is still work to be done," said Kerry, on one of his most intensive regional visits since the peace negotiations he had brokered between Netanyahu and Abbas broke down in April.
"We are doing this for one simple reason. The people in the Palestinian territories, the people in Israel, are all living under the threat or reality of immediate violence. And this need to end for everybody."
Kerry has been working through Abbas, Egypt and other regional proxies as the United States, like Israel, shuns Hamas as a terrorist group. Hamas brushed off the U.S. diplomat's appeal, saying it would not hold fire without making gains.
"Our interest and that of our people is that no agreement should be made before the conditions of factions of resistance are met," Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri said.
Israel launched its offensive on July 8 to halt rocket salvoes by Hamas and its allies, which have struggled under an Israeli-Egyptian economic blockade on Gaza and angered by a crackdown on their supporters in the nearby occupied West Bank.
After aerial and naval bombardment failed to quell the outgunned guerrillas, Israel poured ground forces into the Gaza Strip last Thursday, looking to knock out Hamas's rocket stores and destroy a vast, underground network of tunnels.
"We are meeting resistance around the tunnels ... they are constantly trying to attack us around and in the tunnels. That is the trend," Israeli military spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Peter Lerner said on Wednesday.
Could you repeat that post, Fatprick?

I was scratching my ass, and missed it for a moment.

I want to read it fresh, so it'll be at its best. So please re-post?
Thinking

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#233371 Jul 23, 2014
In my case you were talking about my wife's paparazzi lens.
In Puck Frick's case he's talking Emma Freuds.
ChristineM wrote:
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Honey, we all know you are stealing ThinkingÂ’s thunder by lying. But if theft and lies is the only way you can big yourself up thatÂ’s ok by you if by no one else.

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“The Bible is no science book”

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#233372 Jul 23, 2014
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Do you think Mr. Hamm stays up during endless nights and imagines these theories?
Or is he just plain stupid, and refuses to acknowledge honesty?
I'm leaning toward the latter.
What a dufus.
He is about the most stupid Christian on the planet today. No, wait a minute. His blathering has a following that has made him uber rich. So his followers are the most stupid Christians.

All aliens are doomed to hell..If I could, I would roll on the floor laughing. That's hilarious.

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#233373 Jul 23, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Buck is far from stupid, but he is extremely stubborn and inflexible. This combined with an ego that prevents him from seriously considering the possibility that others have anything to teach him both limits and masks his intelligence.
But but he is. If not stupid, why is he always in jail, or as of now, stuck at home with an ankle alarm? What ever he does to break the law, he gets caught. He has no self control cause he want to solve every problem with his fists. What is so intelligent about that? Sounds pretty stupid to me. If he had half the brain he claims he has, he could be rolling in dough legitimately.

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#233374 Jul 23, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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But but he is. If not stupid, why is he always in jail, or as of now, stuck at home with an ankle alarm? What ever he does to break the law, he gets caught. He has no self control cause he want to solve every problem with his fists. What is so intelligent about that? Sounds pretty stupid to me. If he had half the brain he claims he has, he could be rolling in dough legitimately.
It's true I have a checkered past, Sweats.

Where is the humanity?
Patrick

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#233375 Jul 23, 2014
Nut Case :-)

Turns out --Todd Akin-- isn t sorry after all for his legitimate rape comments and stands by them.

The former congressman, who lost the 2012 Senate race in Missouri, has written a book that Politico previewed on Thursday.
By asking the public at large for forgiveness, Akin writes in the book, I was validating the willful misinterpretation of what I had said.
Akin, a conservative Republican locked in a tight race with Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill, said in a TV interview in summer 2012 that he believes pregnancy can be prevented by a woman involved in legitimate rape because the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
The firestorm was intense, with criticism coming from top Republicans as well as Democrats. GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney called Akin s comments offensive and wrong and called on him to quit the Senate race. Akin apologized, saying he made a very, very serious error and noted he wasn t the first politician to suffer from foot in mouth disease.
But McCaskill capitalized on the comment in her campaign ads and on the trail, and she easily won a second term and defeated Akin by 16 percentage points.
According to Politico s account of the book, Akin basically is standing by his original comments and blaming the news media for his downfall.
My comment about a woman s body shutting the pregnancy down was directed to the impact of stress on fertilization. This is something fertility doctors debate and discuss, Akin writes. Doubt me? Google stress and infertility, and you will find a library of research on the subject.
Thinking

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#233376 Jul 23, 2014
You're still wishing for a finite god, I see.
Bless.
Buck Crick wrote:
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250x what we can see is a finite sum.
270 billion ly is a finite sum.
6x faster than light is a finite speed.
Where is your infinite sum in this analysis?
What average rate of expansion results in infinite distance in 13.8 billion years?
"A" x 13.8 billion = Infinity. 13.8 billion is finite. Right? To mulitiply a finite amount by "A" and get the product "infinity",..." A" has to equal infinity.
For you to be correct, the rate of expansion of the universe has to be "infinite".
How does something expand at infinite speed?
You already related the speed of expansion to the speed of light.
How many times the speed of light is "infinite speed"?
Are you now flip-flopping away from your claim that the universe began infinite in extension, and now saying it expanded from finite to infinite?
Answer the basic questions or shut the fuck up.
"A" x 13.8 billion = Infinity
What is "A"?
You are a fucking moron.

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#233377 Jul 23, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Nut Case :-)
Turns out --Todd Akin-- isn t sorry after all for his legitimate rape comments and stands by them.
The former congressman, who lost the 2012 Senate race in Missouri, has written a book that Politico previewed on Thursday.
By asking the public at large for forgiveness, Akin writes in the book, I was validating the willful misinterpretation of what I had said.
Akin, a conservative Republican locked in a tight race with Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill, said in a TV interview in summer 2012 that he believes pregnancy can be prevented by a woman involved in legitimate rape because the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
The firestorm was intense, with criticism coming from top Republicans as well as Democrats. GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney called Akin s comments offensive and wrong and called on him to quit the Senate race. Akin apologized, saying he made a very, very serious error and noted he wasn t the first politician to suffer from foot in mouth disease.
But McCaskill capitalized on the comment in her campaign ads and on the trail, and she easily won a second term and defeated Akin by 16 percentage points.
According to Politico s account of the book, Akin basically is standing by his original comments and blaming the news media for his downfall.
My comment about a woman s body shutting the pregnancy down was directed to the impact of stress on fertilization. This is something fertility doctors debate and discuss, Akin writes. Doubt me? Google stress and infertility, and you will find a library of research on the subject.
Hey, Fatprick, I don't have time to read that whole post right now.

But I promise I'm going to come back and read the whole thing.

I don't want to miss a word.

It's very important to me.

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#233378 Jul 23, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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If this argument were a prize fight, it would have been stopped in the first round.
But you insist on me bloody-ing you for several rounds.
You need a doctor. And lots of ice.
You should not have tried to go up in weight class.
Face the eternal fact, aghast and without a doubt, you will never be able to be on my level . Monkey brains.

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#233379 Jul 23, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Perhaps they didn't have the imagination he was looking for.
You said excitement. I said intelligent company. There is a difference.
Besides, watching lizards devour each other can get old on the excitement level, particularly if he could only watch them and not feel the action.
..whoa.You are totally outside your bounds ...( do you enjoy athletics )..?

Watching two ton reptiles , ripping into one another .. better , than the best boxing match you've ever seen ...

pretty , sure God has the empathy ..If He deigned to give it to you ....
number four

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#233380 Jul 23, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Face the eternal fact, aghast and without a doubt, you will never be able to be on my level . Monkey brains.
..ah , personal insults ....I guess , this means , you have bested "Buck CricK " ..in your cerebral debate ..
number four

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#233381 Jul 23, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Hey, Fatprick,.
..Hi....What if you can never reach the border , what if the Cosmos ' just ' keep expanding ....

Not ' infinity '...because it's expanding , but it's never going to stop ...?

Is there a ' word '..??...quasi infinite ..?

(sorry , bout calling you a Muslim ...but , I'm quite positive you have thick skin ..)
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#233382 Jul 23, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
There is a msjor fallacy in modern cosmology that can easily be disproven by math and modern physics. The creation of stars just from gravity.
Once you had space created you had room to expand. The negative charge about the newly formed atoms would never let gravity alone ignite the mass into fission or fusion. You would just have an ever expanding globe of gas seeking equilibrium. That gloular shape is caused by that seeking equilibrium. But the gravity does compact and create a sort of anvil for an external force of sufficient speed and mass, or wave of energy, to start the process. Inertia locks it down so atoms can start to be split, which then detonates the surrounding area.
..soo..What kind of energy , is this DARK matter/energy ..

I'm just asking for your guess ...If you would deign to guess ..

Anti gravitons ..?..some kind of organism ...?
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#233383 Jul 23, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Pi is not a physical phenomenon. It is a mathematical concept expressing a mathematical relation between two mathematical values. Infinity is useful in mathematics.
Show an example of a physical infinite.
..hey , I was just trying to show , that infinity can exist ..

a physical infinite ...!?

Just , cause we can't see it ...does , that mean it doesn't exist ..?

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