Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#233280 Jul 22, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Amusing how that heat thing is so ignored and used just for math calculations. And incorrectly at that.
Heat is derived from resistance to motion. It can only be transferred via packets of matter. Via conduction or as bullets of energy called light.
Like someone infinitely powerful squeezed it so tight in his fist it exploded.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233281 Jul 22, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Right again, Dave.
Something infinite would be infinite in all its parts - one step toward the horizon of an infinite universe would be an infinite distance.
Here is a useful definition that helps elucidate the concept of infinity. I'd give it to Aura, but he would not understand.
Physicists and math heads get confused on this.
Abstraction; n.:
"the act of considering something in terms of general qualities, apart from concrete realities, specific objects, or actual instances"
i.e., infinite distance, infinite density, infinite sums of money....
The worship of their numbers blinds math heads to physical realities.

That has been happening since time immemorial.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233282 Jul 22, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Like someone infinitely powerful squeezed it so tight in his fist it exploded.
I lean more to a current being ran through it that broke its bonds, such as a drop of water getting vaporized by a heavy dose of EM. Or as a planted seed.

All within a container.

Believe or not, there are some old religious mystic traditions that point to something like that.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233283 Jul 22, 2014
There is a msjor fallacy in modern cosmology that can easily be disproven by math and modern physics. The creation of stars just from gravity.

Once you had space created you had room to expand. The negative charge about the newly formed atoms would never let gravity alone ignite the mass into fission or fusion. You would just have an ever expanding globe of gas seeking equilibrium. That gloular shape is caused by that seeking equilibrium. But the gravity does compact and create a sort of anvil for an external force of sufficient speed and mass, or wave of energy, to start the process. Inertia locks it down so atoms can start to be split, which then detonates the surrounding area.
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#233284 Jul 22, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Amusing how that heat thing is so ignored and used just for math calculations. And incorrectly at that.
Heat is derived from resistance to motion. It can only be transferred via packets of matter. Via conduction or as bullets of energy called light.
LOL

How do you explain:-

e=mc^2
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#233285 Jul 22, 2014
"infinite density"

Dave and Butt Cracks' brains.

Since: May 10

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#233286 Jul 22, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
"infinite density"
Dave and Butt Cracks' brains.
Always good to hear from Paranoia, Australia.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#233287 Jul 22, 2014
Lab28 wrote:
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He finds the nationalism behind it appalling and is quick to point out that the only reason I am rooting for USA and the other guy is rooting for Germany is because we were born there.
The above is exactly why you are a Christian and not any other religion. Because you were born in a Christian nation.

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#233288 Jul 22, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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The above is exactly why you are a Christian and not any other religion. Because you were born in a Christian nation.
Some people born in America are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Scientologists, Atheists, Agnostics, Moonies, Newabbianists,...

Since: May 11

Reality, USA

#233289 Jul 22, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Some people born in America are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Scientologists, Atheists, Agnostics, Moonies, Newabbianists,...
It may have been said here before but as I have been perusing Topix today I feel the need to add -

No matter where we have been born geographically, we are all born atheists.
CunningLinguist

Windermere, FL

#233291 Jul 22, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
"infinite density"
Dave and Butt Cracks' brains.
Copy that!

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#233292 Jul 22, 2014
USN Atheist wrote:
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It may have been said here before but as I have been perusing Topix today I feel the need to add -
No matter where we have been born geographically, we are all born atheists.
Nobody is born an atheist.

Atheism requires being confronted with a god-proposition and rejecting it.

You are full of crap, Universal Stock Number Atheist.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233293 Jul 22, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
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LOL
How do you explain:-
e=mc^2
Try coming up with a more coherent question.

Better yet, try explaining to us just what that formula describes. Not a cut and paste, but your own words and description. I know you can't do it.
Patrick

United States

#233294 Jul 22, 2014
Islamist militants in Iraq are reported to have seized an ancient monastery near Mosul and expelled the monks.

Local residents said monks at the Mar Behnam monastery were allowed to take only the clothes they were wearing.

The monastery, which dates from the 4th Century, is a major Christian landmark and a place of pilgrimage.

Christians have fled Mosul after the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) told them to convert to Islam, pay a tax or face death.

Isis has seized large parts of Syria and Iraq and said last month it was creating an Islamic caliphate.

Mosul itself is now said to be empty of Christians.

The Mar Behnam monastery is run by the Syriac Catholic Church and is near the predominantly Christian town of Qaraqosh, to the south-east of Mosul.
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Analysis by BBC Arab affairs editor Sebastian Usher

Ancient landmarks like Mar Behnam show how deeply embedded Christianity is in the culture and history of Iraq. Just as in many other Arab countries, churches and monasteries are a timeless part of the landscape.

For years, though, Christians have been warning that their hold in parts of the Middle East is weakening. In Iraq, the lightning seizure of large parts of the country by Isis has been a frightening new threat. Thousands have fled Mosul, leaving it for the first time without a Christian community, after Isis gave them an ultimatum to submit to its authority or face death.

But if Iraqi Christians face penalties and discrimination under Isis, other religious sects are faring even worse. Yazidis and Shia Muslims risk being taken out and killed on the spot for their beliefs.
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A member of the Syriac clergy quoted the militants as telling the monastery's residents: "You have no place here any more, you have to leave immediately."

He said the monks asked to be allowed to save some of the monastery's relics but the fighters refused.

Local Christian residents told AFP news agency that the monks walked for several miles before they were picked up by Kurdish fighters.

Earlier this month, Isis issued an ultimatum in Mosul, citing a historic contract known as "dhimma," under which non-Muslims in Islamic societies who refuse to convert are offered protection if they pay a fee, called a "jizya".

"We offer them three choices: Islam; the dhimma contract - involving payment of jizya; if they refuse this they will have nothing but the sword," the Isis statement said.

Isis issued a similar ultimatum in the Syrian city of Raqqa in February, calling on Christians to pay about half an ounce (14g) of pure gold in exchange for their safety.

Iraq is home to one of the world's most ancient Christian communities but its population has dwindled amid growing sectarian violence since the US-led invasion in 2003.

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#233295 Jul 22, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Islamist militants in Iraq are reported to have seized an ancient monastery near Mosul and expelled the monks.
Local residents said monks at the Mar Behnam monastery were allowed to take only the clothes they were wearing.
The monastery, which dates from the 4th Century, is a major Christian landmark and a place of pilgrimage.
Christians have fled Mosul after the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) told them to convert to Islam, pay a tax or face death.
Isis has seized large parts of Syria and Iraq and said last month it was creating an Islamic caliphate.
Mosul itself is now said to be empty of Christians.
The Mar Behnam monastery is run by the Syriac Catholic Church and is near the predominantly Christian town of Qaraqosh, to the south-east of Mosul.
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Analysis by BBC Arab affairs editor Sebastian Usher
Ancient landmarks like Mar Behnam show how deeply embedded Christianity is in the culture and history of Iraq. Just as in many other Arab countries, churches and monasteries are a timeless part of the landscape.
For years, though, Christians have been warning that their hold in parts of the Middle East is weakening. In Iraq, the lightning seizure of large parts of the country by Isis has been a frightening new threat. Thousands have fled Mosul, leaving it for the first time without a Christian community, after Isis gave them an ultimatum to submit to its authority or face death.
But if Iraqi Christians face penalties and discrimination under Isis, other religious sects are faring even worse. Yazidis and Shia Muslims risk being taken out and killed on the spot for their beliefs.
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A member of the Syriac clergy quoted the militants as telling the monastery's residents: "You have no place here any more, you have to leave immediately."
He said the monks asked to be allowed to save some of the monastery's relics but the fighters refused.
Local Christian residents told AFP news agency that the monks walked for several miles before they were picked up by Kurdish fighters.
Earlier this month, Isis issued an ultimatum in Mosul, citing a historic contract known as "dhimma," under which non-Muslims in Islamic societies who refuse to convert are offered protection if they pay a fee, called a "jizya".
"We offer them three choices: Islam; the dhimma contract - involving payment of jizya; if they refuse this they will have nothing but the sword," the Isis statement said.
Isis issued a similar ultimatum in the Syrian city of Raqqa in February, calling on Christians to pay about half an ounce (14g) of pure gold in exchange for their safety.
Iraq is home to one of the world's most ancient Christian communities but its population has dwindled amid growing sectarian violence since the US-led invasion in 2003.
Thanks, FatPrick
Patrick

United States

#233296 Jul 22, 2014
"Nobody is born an atheist."
LOL
Patrick

United States

#233297 Jul 22, 2014
Breaking News

"Some people born in America are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Scientologists, Atheists, Agnostics, Moonies, Newabbianists,..."

Since: Sep 08

United States

#233299 Jul 22, 2014
Patrick wrote:
"Nobody is born an atheist."
LOL
That is a more appropriate post for a venue like this where people just blather. This is not a news aggregation site, which would be links. The full blown cut and paste is not only a huge clutter that gets in the way of that blathering, but may also run afoul of copyright laws, according to the site copied from.

What I am trying to say is if you continue to paste those articles instead of voicing your thoughts on the matter, intelligent people will take you for a mindless Topix Atheist only capable of repeating the mental product of others, but just a bit more confused than the standard issue.

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#233300 Jul 22, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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What I am trying to say is if you continue to paste those articles instead of voicing your thoughts on the matter, intelligent people will take you for a mindless Topix Atheist only capable of repeating the mental product of others, but just a bit more confused than the standard issue.
Too late.
religionisillnes s

London, UK

#233301 Jul 22, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Correct, FatPrick.
All these insults and STILL no evidence of the god they idiots lie about everyday.

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