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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: May 10

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#232946 Jul 18, 2014
Thinking wrote:
So 5 miles isn't a quantity.
5 miles is a quantity of miles.
5 of them, actually.
Calm down, dear.
<quoted text>
"5 miles" is not a quantity of miles. It's a quantity of distance.

"5" is the quantity of miles.

Nobody can be that dumb - you must be joking.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#232947 Jul 18, 2014
Calm down, dear. You're still wrong.
5 miles is a distance.
The quantity of miles in 5 miles is 5.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
"5 miles" is not a quantity of miles. It's a quantity of distance.
"5" is the quantity of miles.
Nobody can be that dumb - you must be joking.
Lab28

Anaheim, CA

#232948 Jul 18, 2014
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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First, Kim Jong-un calls himself North Korea's Supreme leader, that is not Atheism. He is calling himself, god. Absolute power corrupts absolutely; it is not just a cool saying. I could name many more 'christian' leaders who either thought they were god or god's top leader on Earth. None of them worked out very well either.
If we are done switching out meanings of words, showing that humans are easily corrupted, and cherry picking the bible, I would love to continue the conversation. But if you wish to continue these things, I am done.
I like how in the face of atheist atrocity you crusaders always have this "say it ain't so" attitude in order to dispute the facts about your religion.

Are you sure you want to stop talking about the bible. Because as I recall I have been wanting to discuss the implications of your faith, and there is one aching question that no one seems to want to touch. But I'll keep it in my pocket for now.

Now, I may be ignorant of these things, but as far as I can reckon if there is no God, there is no meaning to life, and if there is no meaning to life we ought to be sucking every pleasure we possibly can from it regardless of consequence.

If there is something in our brains disagreeing with that, it is simply because the chemicals in our brains are reacting in an undesirable way. In fact feelings are nothing more than chemical balances and are therefore meaningless and untrustworthy. The goal then would be to eliminate negative feelings like shame, guilt, remorse in order to feel better about what choices we make regardless of those choices.

Empathy is a waste of time, so is compassion, what real difference does it make, unless I plan on getting something in return for my empathy or my compassion. Perhaps the brain juices controlling me will reward me for it, but there are much quicker ways to activate neurotransmitters, if you know what I mean.

This is the part where someone says "I don't need religion to be a decent person." But the point I am making is what constitutes a decent person in a bleak and merciless world that was spawned in chaos? Standards on morality are simply relativistic to our culture, things passed down generation after generation which have aided us in our survival, but which are now obsolete now that we know the great truth in atheism.

It is either that, or we fritter away our lives believing that we are making a difference on this hunk of dirt that if it isn't consumed by a solar flare or decimated by a comet will be incinerated by the sun long after we have become part of the dirt and history has forgotten every fact about us.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#232949 Jul 18, 2014
You're repeating yourself.

So let's add in this. A 5 mile displacement can be the result of an infinite distance being covered.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
"5 miles" is not a quantity of miles. It's a quantity of distance.
"5" is the quantity of miles.
Nobody can be that dumb - you must be joking.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#232950 Jul 18, 2014
Thinking wrote:
You're repeating yourself.
So let's add in this. A 5 mile displacement can be the result of an infinite distance being covered.
<quoted text>
No it cannot.

Your brain was displaced by bird shit.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#232951 Jul 18, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
hee, hee, hee, you're like the only person who noticed!
Hello Eagle! How're the kids? I hope good!
Da whole family be great. Thank you my Dear sweet Atheist friend. May the force be with you always.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#232952 Jul 18, 2014
Divine Alien wrote:
When we leave this world, we are going back to God himself.
Then what are you going to do? Just sit there? Do you get to do what ever you want? Can you create yur own hot chick to have sex with? Can you go skiing, play golf, play footbal? What about video games, can we do that? What about the poeple who died 6000 years ago? For them a luxory item would be a stick and a wheel to play with. Is that what they get to do?

The idea of an eternal life with this god character is absolutly illogical, and silly!

Since: Sep 08

United States

#232953 Jul 18, 2014
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
Then what are you going to do? Just sit there? Do you get to do what ever you want? Can you create yur own hot chick to have sex with? Can you go skiing, play golf, play footbal? What about video games, can we do that? What about the poeple who died 6000 years ago? For them a luxory item would be a stick and a wheel to play with. Is that what they get to do?
The idea of an eternal life with this god character is absolutly illogical, and silly!
Why do you let people that believe in such bother you so much?

I bet you pride yourself on being a cool and tolerant person, even of perverts. Why the angst and intolerance about believing in a god?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#232954 Jul 18, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
hahaha!
Wait! You just proved that God is not omniscient!
wooooooohoooooo!
Wait...wait...this might not actually work out in my favor...
I see you found someone to argue with...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#232955 Jul 18, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you let people that believe in such bother you so much?
I bet you pride yourself on being a cool and tolerant person, even of perverts. Why the angst and intolerance about believing in a god?
Wassup, Missa Dave? This is PQ, formerly RR.

Long time, no.... Well, you know.
ChristINSANITY is EVIL

Wheatley, Canada

#232957 Jul 18, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
So...God...I...uh, might have to apologize for some terrible, horrible things I said to you.
And, about these small breasts...
Worry not,
experience tells us that girls with small t it s have biger brains
L
ChristINSANITY is EVIL

Wheatley, Canada

#232958 Jul 18, 2014
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>
1-I like how in the face of atheist atrocity you crusaders always have this "say it ain't so" attitude in order to dispute the facts about your religion.

2-Now, I may be ignorant of these things, but as far as I can reckon if there is no God, there is no meaning to life, and if there is no meaning to life we ought to be sucking every pleasure we possibly can from it regardless of consequence.
s.
1-Atheism is NOT religion ,why are you stil LYING ?

2-Non sequitor fallacy,
there ARE consequences to your every actions
Just ask Joe the Butt Crack
LLL

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#232959 Jul 18, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no idea.
Yeah ,thanks for admitting it finally.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#232960 Jul 18, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I'm not sure it will stop.
But what we can be sure of is that its expansion at any time will be finite.
Therefore, the contention that the universe is infinite is false.
14.3 billion parsecs

46.618 billion ly

5,878,000,000,000

This is from observation, using the advanced telescopes we have today.
So Buck or Dave...., since you think all things are quantifiable , give me the distance and travel time it will take to cross the cosmological event horizon. Remember you have to go by the rules of general relativity and you can't make shit up.

14.3Gpc or an estimated 46.618 billion ly away, to where the galaxies are receding faster than light.
We will assume you can travel @ or near c, even though in reality you will be at best able to go 150,000 mph. Remember you have to cross the event horizon.

We can make it even easier for you , tell us the distance and travel time, it will take you to cross the event horizon alone. from 5,878,000,000,000 miles or 1 ly from the 14.3Gpc where the galaxies are receding faster than light.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#232961 Jul 18, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
What you are describing is belief. You are just calling it something else.
You "disbelieve" a proposition. You therefore believe the contrary.
There is no "contrary" belief to my disbelief.

Pedantry can't save you, Buck.

It is what it is--disbelief in the supernatural.

No more, no less.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#232962 Jul 18, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
"outside the material world" is consistent with what I'm saying.
No physical infinite.
Infinity is an abstract concept with no application to the physical world.
Real mathematicians understand infinity is only a theoretical math concept.
Nothing more.
That's my view of what a god is: A theoretical concept, with no application to the physical world.

And to me, the physical world is all there is.

THAT, you can call a belief.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#232963 Jul 18, 2014
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>I like how in the face of atheist atrocity you crusaders always have this "say it ain't so" attitude in order to dispute the facts about your religion.
First, your religion sells your god as the god of love, yet your god demands people to be brutally. His followers have committed atrocities on his behalf. If you want to stick with Atheism being a religion, then so be it. Arguing with someone who has a closed mind is a no win situation. Just remember, the Atheists who committed those terrible acts, did not do it while saying,“My god is the god of peace and love!” They did it for power.
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you sure you want to stop talking about the bible. Because as I recall I have been wanting to discuss the implications of your faith, and there is one aching question that no one seems to want to touch. But I'll keep it in my pocket for now.
Now I have faith! LOL! Yes, I believe in things for which there is no proof and even proof to the contrary; just like you! LOL! Arguing with someone who has a closed mind is a no win situation.
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>Now, I may be ignorant of these things, but as far as I can reckon if there is no God, there is no meaning to life, and if there is no meaning to life we ought to be sucking every pleasure we possibly can from it regardless of consequence.
Then you do not understand empathy. You have no pride in yourself.
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>If there is something in our brains disagreeing with that, it is simply because the chemicals in our brains are reacting in an undesirable way. In fact feelings are nothing more than chemical balances and are therefore meaningless and untrustworthy. The goal then would be to eliminate negative feelings like shame, guilt, remorse in order to feel better about what choices we make regardless of those choices.
Then you do not understand empathy. You have no pride in yourself.
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>Empathy is a waste of time, so is compassion, what real difference does it make, unless I plan on getting something in return for my empathy or my compassion. Perhaps the brain juices controlling me will reward me for it, but there are much quicker ways to activate neurotransmitters, if you know what I mean..
Then you do not understand empathy. You have no pride in yourself.
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>This is the part where someone says "I don't need religion to be a decent person." But the point I am making is what constitutes a decent person in a bleak and merciless world that was spawned in chaos? Standards on morality are simply relativistic to our culture, things passed down generation after generation which have aided us in our survival, but which are now obsolete now that we know the great truth in atheism..
Then you do not understand empathy. You have no pride in yourself.
Lab28 wrote:
<quoted text>It is either that, or we fritter away our lives believing that we are making a difference on this hunk of dirt that if it isn't consumed by a solar flare or decimated by a comet will be incinerated by the sun long after we have become part of the dirt and history has forgotten every fact about us..
Then you do not understand empathy. You have no pride in yourself.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#232964 Jul 18, 2014
Proxy Queen wrote:
<quoted text>
Wassup, Missa Dave? This is PQ, formerly RR.
Long time, no.... Well, you know.
Hey, RR.

Your new name intrigues the shit out of me.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#232965 Jul 18, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
14.3 billion parsecs
46.618 billion ly
5,878,000,000,000
This is from observation, using the advanced telescopes we have today.
So Buck or Dave...., since you think all things are quantifiable , give me the distance and travel time it will take to cross the cosmological event horizon. Remember you have to go by the rules of general relativity and you can't make shit up.
14.3Gpc or an estimated 46.618 billion ly away, to where the galaxies are receding faster than light.
We will assume you can travel @ or near c, even though in reality you will be at best able to go 150,000 mph. Remember you have to cross the event horizon.
We can make it even easier for you , tell us the distance and travel time, it will take you to cross the event horizon alone. from 5,878,000,000,000 miles or 1 ly from the 14.3Gpc where the galaxies are receding faster than light.
Those galaxies burned out a long time ago. Plus the matter probably got sucked back a good bit by gravity.

You are playing with toys, aura.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#232966 Jul 18, 2014
Prove it.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
No it cannot.

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