Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#231891 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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So, why are you asking this question? Afraid of the topic we are on?
No, I asked it because it can elucidate the topic we are on.

Why didn't you answer it?

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#231892 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Wow. You just made a positive claim here - ok, demonstrate that homosexuality is not normal behavior. Please use evidence and don't just spout nonsense as per the Buck way.
I didn't claim it is not normal behavior.

What I claimed, and I am correct, is that it is not proper science to pronounce a judgement on a controversial subject, deeming a particular behavior as "normal" with no biological basis for doing so, particularly when their own biological theory diminishes its validity.

. I also contend that their criteria for such a pronouncement, aside from being unscientific and biased, would sweep in other behaviors they would, by no means, "deem" as normal, thus exposing you (and them) as the moral hypocrites you are.

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#231893 Jul 6, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
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Evil is a theological concept and it remains your 'god' problem.
So then "good" is a theological concept, right?

When someone does good for another, that's just a theory, it didn't necessarily happen, right?

You could have never done good before you studied theology, right?

I learn so much from you atheist dudes - Good and evil comes from theology.

Thanks, man.

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#231894 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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So, why are you asking this question? Afraid of the topic we are on?
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Thanks. I know.
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Make sure you post my entire responses to that conversation - I have no issues admitting that a very few people who continue to do research (that does not support ID) believe their research supports ID. I was mistaken here.
Once again, you are, perhaps purposefully, ignoring the end of our discussion where I demonstrated that their research does not, in any way whatsoever, support their ID notions.
And where I posted their own writing where they admit to not having an ID theory.
Oh! Here it is, from the ID people themselves:
"Scientists affiliated with Biologic Institute are working from the idea that life appears to have been designed because it really was designed. That’s a hypothesis, not a theory, and while it obviously has huge philosophical implications (made even more huge by the the fact it appears to be correct) it doesn’t do much for biology if left at that."
http://www.biologicinstitute.org/about
I labeled ID a hypothesis years ago on these pages. Big deal.

Scientists, in scientific literature, use the terms interchangeably, though technically they are not.

That's how they announce a new "theory".

Did you have a point?

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#231895 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Wow. You just made a positive claim here - ok, demonstrate that homosexuality is not normal behavior. Please use evidence and don't just spout nonsense as per the Buck way.
Why won't you answer whether rape in primates and humans is normal behavior?

Second question:

Is all normal behavior in primates also normal in humans?

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#231896 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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PhD in microbiology - conveniently, after I started grilling you, you stopped bring that up.
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I'm pretty sure he has one from Ed's School of Macramé and Microbiology.

He's listed there as one of their graduates.

OK. He's listed there as their one graduate. Still....

Good to see you HFY.

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#231897 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Not a single evolutionary theorist makes the straw man argument you post above - "... procreation is of fundamental evolutionary focus..."
Oh, really?

“We are survival machines; robot vehicles blindly programmed to preserve the selfish molecules known as genes. This is a truth which still fills me with astonishment. Though I have known it for years, I never seem to get fully used to it.”

&#8213; Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene

Besides Richard Dawkins, other theorists who subscribe to the Selfish Gene Theory:

George C. Williams, John Maynard Smith, George R. Price, Robert Trivers, David Haig, Helena Cronin, David Hull, Philip Kitcher, and Daniel C. Dennett.

Do you ever tire of losing?

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#231898 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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No. Hitler liked Herbert Spencer's social darwinism.
Again, why are you lying here?
Lies are all that lil' Bucky has...

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#231899 Jul 6, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
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I'm pretty sure he has one from Ed's School of Macramé and Microbiology.
He's listed there as one of their graduates.
OK. He's listed there as their one graduate. Still....
Good to see you HFY.
So lil' Bucky is a former pro football player who got shot, sent to prison AND has a PhD in Microbiology?

LOL

Oh, this is sad...

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#231900 Jul 6, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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So lil' Bucky is a former pro football player who got shot, sent to prison AND has a PhD in Microbiology?
LOL
Oh, this is sad...
Don't forget, he's just a simple pig farmer, too.

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#231901 Jul 6, 2014
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So you believe in discriminating against people who don't produce children?
Ah , the crux of the matter ..

The Church isn't here to insure social equality ..it's here to save souls .

And , some discrimination is ' good '..Why aren't I allowed to use the girls restroom ..because , of a measly ' y ' chromosomes ...that's , pretty discriminatory .

Those of you in search of a neighborhood kid to babysit for you ; do you also consider the young men too ...or , only the young women ..Hmmm..?....

Why can't I be a Den Mother , I'm eminently qualified ...?

So yes I discriminate , of the two marriages ; the hetrosexual unions have proven to contribute more to society ..

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#231902 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Yes.
Well done!
Thanks "Hidingfromyou" ...I NEEDED THAT ..!

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#231903 Jul 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Why won't you answer whether rape in primates and humans is normal behavior?
Second question:
Is all normal behavior in primates also normal in humans?
Yes with you it is, that's why you wanted a banana in your jello.hahaha

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#231904 Jul 6, 2014
CunningLinguist wrote:
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Evil is a theological concept and it remains your 'god' problem.
After all... your boy created it didn't he?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evi...
"It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand." ~Mark Twain
A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is as deep and profound as yours.
Look silly billy , if you claim the histories in the Bible are horrendous ...I'm just asking , what ethical moral code gives anyone of you , the right to make such value judgements ...

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#231905 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Totally. It's repulsive in the extreme - that poor, poor baby.
As Vonnegut would say "he's up in Heaven now."
Anyways, that baby-killing man is a Christian, yes? Why doesn't he fear your deity?
You too had and early foundation of Christianity , so a fortiori you too are Christian ..

“Why does my ignorance”

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justify your deity?

#231906 Jul 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I didn't claim it is not normal behavior.
What I claimed, and I am correct, is that it is not proper science to pronounce a judgement on a controversial subject, deeming a particular behavior as "normal" with no biological basis for doing so, particularly when their own biological theory diminishes its validity.
. I also contend that their criteria for such a pronouncement, aside from being unscientific and biased, would sweep in other behaviors they would, by no means, "deem" as normal, thus exposing you (and them) as the moral hypocrites you are.
It's not a controversial subject in social science or primatology. Once again, for the slow of mind and slight of education, same sex sexual behavior is a normal behavior in primates and humans.

So you're just making up bs again, demonstrating how little you know about science.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#231907 Jul 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I labeled ID a hypothesis years ago on these pages. Big deal.
Scientists, in scientific literature, use the terms interchangeably, though technically they are not.
That's how they announce a new "theory".
Did you have a point?
Wow. Why lie again? You claimed - as you did again here - that ID was a theory. You argued over and over that it had its own theory - never once did you claim it was a hypothesis.

Whatever, Buck. Why don't you just keep lying whenever it suits you?

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#231908 Jul 6, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Wow. You just made a positive claim here - ok, demonstrate that homosexuality is not normal behavior. Please use evidence and don't just spout nonsense as per the Buck way.
Besides the proliferation of STD's found in the gay community ..

put , them on an island and come back and visit in 60 years , and behold what kind of society they have built for themselves ..

You might find beautiful homes and well manicured lawns , but as for people ..meh...not so much ..

looks , gays aren't like you and I . They have opened book stores " Look , we are just as refined and sophisticated as our hetrosexual brethren ..!! "

but , the ugly truth is those stores don't actually move any books ...pornography ...is their cash cow ..

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#231909 Jul 6, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>Look silly billy , if you claim the histories in the Bible are horrendous ...I'm just asking , what ethical moral code gives anyone of you , the right to make such value judgements ...
Okay, you know the laws we make in the world, that are universal and the quest for equal rights for all men and women, the elimination of slavery, and genocide are what give us the universal moral guidelines to live by. This also gives us the right to say, that in the past human rights were violated by many people.
It's pretty sad that Christians , for the love of god....cannot see it.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

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#231910 Jul 6, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Why won't you answer whether rape in primates and humans is normal behavior?
Second question:
Is all normal behavior in primates also normal in humans?
1. Because you're switching the topic b/c you're afraid.

2. You're exaggerating my claims here.

Are you capable of honesty? Oh, wait, no nevermind. honesty won't support your argument.

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