Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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#229853 May 27, 2014
Rodny wrote:
It is amusing how these mad atheists are trying to convince anyone that all the bad people are Christian while all the "good" people are atheists.
Better have a good laugh than start a flame war.
No I judge people on whether their behaviour is ethical, or not. Check yoself!

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Since: Jun 13

Botany Bay

#229854 May 27, 2014
Rodny wrote:
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You atheists are so ignorant and delusional.
You can't preach Christianity in a Muslim country.
And atheists are executed in Muslim countries.
So thank God that you live in a Christian country.
I don't live in an Xian country, I live in a DEMOCRACY with religious freedom.

That's something those pagan Greeks thought up. Praise Zeus and Athena!

“Electronic graffiti”

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Botany Bay

#229855 May 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Atheists are the most hated people in the world, because they wont drink the kool aid with them.
We sceptics and agnostics get tarred with the same brush. F~k that Kool aid!

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Since: Dec 12

"...with huh?"

#229856 May 27, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>thanks! and for the latest on insane antiChrist "love", just read anything from the divinty surgeon spaz:-)
That's a defensive remark.

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#229857 May 27, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...What's wrong with you "Aura Mytha" ..( I still have watch this )..but, how could to take a biased Church of England statesman describing Catholic history ....hmmm..?
I'm curious have you ever heard of The War of Northern Aggression ...it was the bloodiest American war ..fought in 1861.
What's wrong with me?
I don't drink the kool-aid just because Jim said so and I know things from the evidence.
People can lie, but the evidence doesn't lie.
So there you have have it , Confucius say... be sure not to walk in big boss house, into room lined in plastic.

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#229858 May 27, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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No I judge people on whether their behaviour is ethical, or not. Check yoself!
and who made YOU the standard of ethics, you judger you!:-)

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#229859 May 27, 2014
superwilly wrote:
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Actually I cannot understand the justification of the murder of millions of innocent orxinary people by the followers of lenin and stalin. Just admit it.
Why do you justify the murders based on ideology.
I do not like the fact that sometimes we will have to defend our very way of life to survive.
I did not make this world full of greed and stupidity.
Lennon and Stalin were not much different than any other champions who rise to lead their brothers to survive. The fact that they were an opposition and a threat to us in every way makes them both dark and adversary's. But you will find the one truth is that people are not much different no matter where you go. When we paint an adversary we want it grimacing and inconceivably horrible, that way you know to stick to what you know and do not tread on the foreign ground. The truth is I do not condone murder at all, not for ideology or faith.
I do condone justice and defending ones country. that's why the George Washington Nest will sail in harms way or defend the States. The world is a dangerous place because of the human ape, there will be need of defending oneself. And I just another Eagle Scout, who's motto hasn't changed since....Be Prepared.

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#229860 May 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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What's wrong with me?
I don't drink the kool-aid just because Jim said so and I know things from the evidence.
People can lie, but the evidence doesn't lie.
So there you have have it , Confucius say... be sure not to walk in big boss house, into room lined in plastic.
right - instead of kool aid, genocidal atheists drink the blood of all the innocent people who died in the name of antichrist communist/socialist agendas!

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#229863 May 27, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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right - instead of kool aid, genocidal atheists drink the blood of all the innocent people who died in the name of antichrist communist/socialist agendas!
If The Christain was Count Dracul would he need killing?
BTW He was a christian too. Or do thousands of people impaled on a stake fit in your version of good Christians?

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#229864 May 27, 2014
The Christian Lady Countess Bathory is a way better christian though.

Elizabeth Bathory - the Blood Countess

Elizabeth Bathory, the Blood Countess, is one of the most famous of all historical vampires. She is perhaps less well-known only than the infamous Vlad Dracula, known also as Tepes (the Impaler) and he - although noted for his savage and very public methods of execution - was no vampire, but has merely been cited as the inspiration for Bram Stoker's fictional Count Dracula. In fact, the historical Dracula is usually best known as a devout, if savage, Christian warrior and noted for his successful enforcement of the law within the Voevodate of Wallachia. Elizabeth Bathory on the other hand is renowned as a torturer, an eater of flesh and a bather in blood, and has been cited by prominent vampirologist Raymond McNally in his book Dracula was a Woman (which is currently out of print) as a closer model for Bram Stoker's creation than Tepes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-london/plain/A...

“Electronic graffiti”

Since: Jun 13

Botany Bay

#229867 May 27, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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But so many non Muslims consider (and treat) them as if they were.
Islam is pretty much like christianity, they even worship the same deity. The god stories are similar with amendments that show a few hundred years of progress. But still written over one and a half millennia ago.
Not many muslims want to live under Shariah law either however just like in christianity there are funnymentalists. As far as I know only about 15 of more than 50 Islamic countries apply full sharia law.
Sure the god book will have an influence but itís personality and hence interpretation of the god books that define how a person reacts to that god book. Examples abound on this very thread. Some good christians (so they claim) rejoice in vomiting hatred to anyone who does not worship as they choose to worship. That very same accusation that they apply to Islam.
I sometimes PM with a Muslim who is currently very upset because he want on a christian thread to try and learn something about christianity and offer his views on Islam to anyone interested enough to correspond. Those good christians ganged up on him (you know what itís like) vomiting hatred and abuse to reject him from the thread, they just did not want to know, did not even want to listen and did not want to provide their view. Such ignorance is what defines them. I donít know which thread it was but I would not be in the least surprised if such good, wholesome christians as Rodny were among the mob.
Unlike you and me, he is not inured to the behaviour of good christian folks and has not returned to the thread since.
Yes, some of the Muslims are Ok. They won't convert me though. Nor will I go with one again, that was a learning curve.

I'm sorry the bloke went through that. It's a verbal cage fight @ times on here. I put up with it because there are some people I do like to have a yarn with. Others...need a good kangaroo kick in the guts.

Sometimes I think that if there was a God, the first thing he would say if he came down here to Earth is: "Hey kids! Stop fighting!"

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#229868 May 27, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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too many 'gaytheists gone wild over the weekend' incidents to report. you'll just have to read your local newspapers to keep on the sodom and gomoorah-like activities nearest you....
Tuck your shirt back in, Waassy. The boys told me about all the fun they had with you at the sauna last weekend.
:-)

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#229869 May 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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If The Christain was Count Dracul would he need killing?
BTW He was a christian too. Or do thousands of people impaled on a stake fit in your version of good Christians?
Vlad Tepes, known as the Impaler. Bram Stoker got the idea for Dracula from him.

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#229870 May 27, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Vlad Tepes, known as the Impaler. Bram Stoker got the idea for Dracula from him.

Ja it is true.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

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#229872 May 28, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i was just trying to be light-hearted and joke around with a fellow human being, but you seem genuinely angry and hateful so i think i'll hafta be more careful about talking to you as tho you're a reasonable person - my bad:-)
Why do you lie?

You were forcing unwanted sexual advances as you have tried before, not just with me but with several other women and a good proportion of those women have castigated you for it yet still you persist in repeating your stupidity over and over again like a good ignorant godbot.

You seem to get pleasure out of being a pervert in the name of your god, and then throwing baseless and deliberately hurtful accusations such as lesbianism or anger or hatred because your blatantly obnoxious advances are spurned.

Such a pathetic and childish behaviour you exhibit.

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Since: Nov 10

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#229873 May 28, 2014
Rodny wrote:
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Just vilification and lies.
You come here to have fun?
You don't sound like it.
No lies in that post, I have no god to bow down to therefore no need to lie. But of course you are bound to misinterpret and misrepresent, after all you have had a lifetime of training.

Just because my idea of fun upsets your delicate sensibilities does not mean that itís not fun, It just means that you are easily upset by thoughts that contradict your indoctrination.

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#229874 May 28, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Why are most blonde jokes one liners?
So that men like him can understand them.
You could very well be right but I thought it was because the guys that made them up had problems with more than one line.

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Since: Nov 10

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#229875 May 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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I need to 'validate' current situations of Muslim violence?
However, I did Google Christians in prison. You know, the Iranian Pastor jailed because he won't convert. The Sudanese Christian mother who just gave birth in prison about to be hanged for not converting. And the Christian girl who witnessed her Pastor/father shot because he wouldn't convert, and then her teenage brother who shouted 'no!'
Is that what you mean about Christians in jail?
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So, you are outraged by a cartoon of a pervert, thief, fake prophet, but are free to mock the very religions he based his fictional one on? Rational people would call that severely hypocritical and idiotic. Typical for a 'rational atheist' oxymoron...
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You make my point. No one has a problem knowing Muslim outrage about a cartoon. I'm simply wondering why I need to search for outrage or, for that matter, a tangible response to 300 girls being kidnapped, raped and sold as slaves by 'tolerant' Islam. Are there no 'real' Muslims in north Nigeria?
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Um, honey, you lie. The majority, by far, are muslim. And the ones involving the US, are western countries trying to help a helpless Allah.
Oh, and um, honey, Islam keeps getting the shit kicked out of it by little countries like Israel, and big ones like the good ol USA. Over and over you see the mujahideen 'warriors' scurry like rats behind women and children.
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Honey, I know you have to be a brave blonde 'rational atheist' oxymoron to work among Muslims as an infidel female. But damn girl, defending the sickest religion on earth as an atheist???
You sold out honey.
Smile.
No but they are pretty typical in somewhat one sided examples of the atrocities that are instigated by religious intolerance. Rather like the intolerance of the IRA, NLFT and those good christians the KKK and anti abortionists in the US are guilty of. Funny how you never want to bring up those atrocities.

Nope I am not outraged, as you can tell by my whimsical comment and honey, contrary to your lying mumbo jumbo I take the pIss out of Islam just as much as I do with christianity. However, I consider I do it fairly and am unbiased in that humour, I base my comments of fact, unlike some gopdbots I could name on topix who base there hatred on hearsay and sensationalist press.

You made the statement and I provided a counter and highlighted the fact that you were lying in your ignorance and it also seems using clairvoyance in you hatred. As for why you need to search for muslim outrage, perhaps because the usual sensationalist hate sheets you usually read are too journalistically sh|te to publish it. There is considerable muslim response, quite possible far more than good old american response but, hey, if you want to be blind to facts them feel free to wallow in your own ignorance.

I lie? So tell me who has been fighting in Afganistan for the last 25 or so years? First christian Russians followed by christian westerners? Have you asked if they want help or are you simply imposing that help because you are christian?

Ahh you mean like the only war the mighty US has won on itís own since the Mexican-American War was against a group of Caribbean island hill farmers in Grenada? You want to big up then get your facts straight. FYI the mujahideen kept the might of russia on the hop and did exactly the same for the NATO forces more recently, you may not like their methods (neither do I) but unless you can claim victory in Afganistan then tough

The sickest religion is all a tough one and the accolade goes jointly to all 3 of the abrahamic religions but on a personal note Muslims have never hurt me or mine, Jews have never hurt me or mine, christians have.

You donít know anything but you can guess which is why your consider I sold out, because you are guessing at the facts and inserting your own prejudices into my life but hey, you are a godbot and so itís understandable

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Since: Nov 10

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#229876 May 28, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Yes, some of the Muslims are Ok. They won't convert me though. Nor will I go with one again, that was a learning curve.
I'm sorry the bloke went through that. It's a verbal cage fight @ times on here. I put up with it because there are some people I do like to have a yarn with. Others...need a good kangaroo kick in the guts.
Sometimes I think that if there was a God, the first thing he would say if he came down here to Earth is: "Hey kids! Stop fighting!"
Most Muslims I have met (and I live in an area with a high muslim population) are OK, as are most other religious folk. There are some odd balls though, just as there are in christianity. Also most muslims do not accept Ďmuslimí terrorist as behaving in the way of Islam, those kidnappers in Nigeria are reviled.

I have met a couple who admit to condoning suicide bombing against military targets but they vehemently believe that those indiscriminately killing civilians will never earn their 72 virgins. Certainly those I know personally are completely against violence and are understanding of the arguments against Islam, most will attempt to counter those arguments with discussion.

The misogyny taught in the quran is quite a sore point with me and one of the emotive subjects that people in the office now avoid (like the plague). The funny thing is although many muslims agree that the words are there they cannot or will not acknowledge misogyny even in this age because they are taught that the quran is perfect. Again rather like christians when faced with criticism of the babble.

I find it extremely prejudicial that if a killer goes on the rampage his religion is never mentioned by the press, unless he is a muslim. If a terrorist explodes a bomb on a bus then his religions is never mentioned unless he is muslim. A terrorist of the christian faith is named as a Ďterroristí, an Islamic terrorist is named as a ďmuslim terroristĒ Why is this? Two reasons, it is politically advantageous to western politicians and it panders to the news desires of the right and far right public.

I also find it highly amusing that I am being targeted and vilified by good christians for posting facts and information as I see it in every day life simply because it goes against there preconception. But I am dealing with the deliberate ignorance of christians here so itís completely expected.

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#229877 May 28, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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If The Christain was Count Dracul would he need killing?
BTW He was a christian too. Or do thousands of people impaled on a stake fit in your version of good Christians?
the Lord will sort out the goats from the sheep, the chaff from the wheat on that great day!

until then, you do what ya gotta do to advance your corrupt kingdom and i'll cooperate with God to advance His eternal Kingdom and we'll both wait in anticipation for our just rewards!:-)

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