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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#229715 May 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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I find it very telling that the US (and by all accounts the UK) prison population houses more than the national average of christians and far less than the national average of atheist.
Then that begs the question of who is more ethical? I don't judge all Xians by the Topix funny-mentalists, but see some of the same abuses in real life.

As for atheists, it reminds me of the story of the preacher who asked Richard Dawkins that if he was an atheist, what was there to stop him going out to rape, pillage and murder? It's scary to think that they believe religion would be the only thing stopping anyone. If it stops him - GOOD.

Everybody has their own ideas of what is right and wrong, whatever their religion or lack thereof. That's why I'm finding this Ethics course so bl00dy interesting.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229716 May 23, 2014
superwilly wrote:
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Not belittling you at all.
That is your claim now you have had time to consider, I don’t really care how much you backslide, your belief tells you that your god has seen everything you do, live with it.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229717 May 23, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Yes, it was he who wrote most of the New Testament - and most Xian ideals. I'll have to research him more.
Look at before he got the god bug, not a nice man by any standards

There is even evidence that the reason he wrote what he did was from guilt, it is claimed that he was the one responsible for the capture and hence the crucifixion of the guy that christians see as the late jc.

See the rebuttal of Celsus' work by Origen, his rebuttal describes the contents of Celsus work even though the original was destroyed in the (highly suspicious) fire of the library in Alexandra.

Universities have transcripts of early Saulus works

See also

Pantera by Sara Reinke
James, the brother of Christ by Robert Eisenman
The Mythmaker by Hyam Maccobys
Judas the Galilean: the flesh and blood Jesus by Danial Underbank
Jesus the Terrorist by Paul Cresswell

I had a little input into compiling the data used in these books so I am somewhat prejudiced, there will no doubt be other books.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229718 May 23, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Then that begs the question of who is more ethical? I don't judge all Xians by the Topix funny-mentalists, but see some of the same abuses in real life.
As for atheists, it reminds me of the story of the preacher who asked Richard Dawkins that if he was an atheist, what was there to stop him going out to rape, pillage and murder? It's scary to think that they believe religion would be the only thing stopping anyone. If it stops him - GOOD.
Everybody has their own ideas of what is right and wrong, whatever their religion or lack thereof. That's why I'm finding this Ethics course so bl00dy interesting.
This is one problem with some godbots, they claim morality as their own and are adamant that no one else can have any.

They cannot give any valid explanation why others cannot have any morality other than it’s what they believe. There in lies another problem, they see what they believe as “Truth” and will never educate themselves to any facts that contradict their beliefs

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229719 May 23, 2014
This weekend is a bank holiday here in the UK, a long weekend that includes Monday. As is typical the weather forecast predicts cold and damp but hey ho, that’s how it goes.

I gave the word for an early finish and the office emptied like magic, I’ll be packing up in a few minutes.

Have a good one all.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

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#229720 May 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>I see you are still making empty threats
It's all he can do.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#229722 May 23, 2014
KiMare wrote:
“I came to Him because I did not know which way to turn. I remained with Him because there is no other way I wish to turn. I came to Him longing for something I did not have. I remain with Him because I have something I will not trade. I came to Him as a stranger. I remain with Him in the most intimate of friendships. I came to Him unsure about the future. I remain with Him certain about my destiny. I came amid the thunderous cries of a culture that has 330 million deities. I remain with Him knowing that truth cannot be all-inclusive.”
&#8213; Ravi Zacharias
i luv ravi z - i think he's the most brilliant apologist on the planet right now!

he has the answers for every skeptic if they really want to know the truth and he's always gracious and understanding with every person and issue he debates!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#229726 May 23, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Our Waassy forgot to pull his shirt back down - AGAIN!
:D
hi Rosa,

i see that you're reasonable with people/christians who stay positive and i really respect you for that.

the Gospel (i.e., God proved His love for us all by sending us His Son) is a completely positive message and that's what i want to stay focused on.

as a dual citizen of heaven and the government to which i now belong on earth, i often interject my opinions on moral & civic matters and i get silly cuz i'm also only human, but i don't want those issues to be mistaken for or associated with the Gospel message.

i say this cuz you usually reply to comments i make about moral issues and i think we have room to disagree on those but still be able to respect each other.

can we be square about this?:-)

Since: Dec 12

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#229727 May 23, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>hi Rosa,

i see that you're reasonable with people/christians who stay positive and i really respect you for that.

the Gospel (i.e., God proved His love for us all by sending us His Son) is a completely positive message and that's what i want to stay focused on.

as a dual citizen of heaven and the government to which i now belong on earth, i often interject my opinions on moral & civic matters and i get silly cuz i'm also only human, but i don't want those issues to be mistaken for or associated with the Gospel message.

i say this cuz you usually reply to comments i make about moral issues and i think we have room to disagree on those but still be able to respect each other.

can we be square about this?:-)
Internet time at the prison?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#229728 May 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Oh my dear, you were the one vomiting the sexism - again, you don’t like what you sow then that’s just tough
the new age definition of "sexism'" means that a man isn't completely emasculated by the pushy and controlling women around him, so i embrace the use of this term for myself.

THAT term as well as chauvinist, misogynic and all associated.

in fact, i think that most all 'new age' women can accurately be defined as "witches" according to past cultures and Bible doctrine!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#229729 May 23, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Yes, we all know that your girlfriend doesn't talk too much - or at all.
http://www.spencersonline.com/adult_novelty_l...
'for God SO loved Rosa, that He gave His only begotten Son...'

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#229730 May 23, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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I know that. Along with Jews, homosexuals and usually strong women.
Marrying little girls...now that's just fine and dandy according to those ar$#lifters.
i'm not in any way challenging what you're saying about islam here, but i'd like clarification on what you mean by "strong women"?

do you mean strong as in 'she embraces her different creative design, gifts and strengths associated with being female and having a womb', or do you mean 'pushy and controlling and having the mentality that her differences are superior to mens differences'?

just asking.....:-)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#229731 May 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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LOL - I am thin, right on the boundary of the BMI chart, I prefer slender, svelte or much better, elegant.
But you are correct, I am not that thin to be skeletal and do have flesh and skin on my skeleton. It’s just an ignorant godbot trying (and failing) to belittle me so he can earn extra god points, I am sure these numpties don’t even realise that lies and deceit deduct those wondrous get to heaven points they all crave.
do you at least have bubbles and sum junk in your trunk?;-)

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229732 May 23, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Rodny, you plonker![sic]
...
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ROTFLMAO

Brilliant, thank you for setting my weekend off with a bang.

I wonder if he will understand?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229733 May 23, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Enjoy! I'm already home. We're in that there London tomorrow with friends, should be fun.
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Ta. You too have fun. I am just grabbing a few moments with my not so smart phone while the crab curry simmers and the kids make the most of what will probably be our entire ration of sunshine. Like I said, not so smart how can predictive text assume I meant Dibner when I was writing sunshine?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229734 May 23, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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the new age definition of "sexism'" means that a man isn't completely emasculated by the pushy and controlling women around him, so i embrace the use of this term for myself.
THAT term as well as chauvinist, misogynic and all associated.
in fact, i think that most all 'new age' women can accurately be defined as "witches" according to past cultures and Bible doctrine!
Embrace what ever you like just as long as you keep your creepy hands off me.

Yes, I am sure and just as in times ol old, most godbots would revel in burning them at the stake.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229735 May 23, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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do you at least have bubbles and sum junk in your trunk?;-)
Ignored on the grounds that you are a pervert.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#229738 May 23, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I have a female friend who wanted to text me and my wife, "Are we dinnering tonight?" [sic] and it came out "Are we fingering tonight?"
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lol, damn predictive text, I want my blackberry back

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#229739 May 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Embrace what ever you like just as long as you keep your creepy hands off me.
Yes, I am sure and just as in times ol old, most godbots would revel in burning them at the stake.
i don't endorse the burning of witches, but i don't let them conroll me either, which is the very nature of witchcraft and bewitching!

sounds like you may have some anger issues with the male species! are you by any chance a lesbian? cuz more than a few studies prove there's an association with lesbianism and bigotry towards men!:-)

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#229740 May 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Ignored on the grounds that you are a pervert.
also ignored on the grounds that you are a bigot.

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