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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Ordway, CO

#228996 May 11, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a pretty old concept Dave, perhaps you've heard it before.
Dead men, tell no tales.
Maybe not in this realm.

Aura, if you believe you are nothing but the result of stellar shit and energy getting constipated I am not going to argue with you anymore. In fact, you are starting to convince me.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#228997 May 11, 2014
Hey Dave.

Michael Faraday on Cosmos tonight.

Maybe you can tell us all everything that he got wrong.

“too hard to handle”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#228998 May 11, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
*McEnroe voice*
You're not serious.
Smallpox was eradicated as a result of the work of Dr Edward Jenner. Christendom would have burned him @ the stake a few centuries earlier.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...
http://www.jenner.ac.uk/edwardjenner
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/edward_j...
http://www.jennermuseum.com/
Many bible believing Christians were burned at the stake. Such was the "inquisition".
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#228999 May 11, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Well if you lose your head "literally" you will no longer have any consciousness.
Consciousness manifests a living brain and neurosystem , without the physically functioning biological parts, there is none.
Fair enough.....( but, to be sure this sort of thinking is a relatively new kind of phenomena ..)
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229000 May 11, 2014
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
John Stockwell, former CIA official (From His books, Speeches...)
" The CIA had been running thousands of operations over the years... there have been about 3,000 major covert operations and over 10,000 minor operations... all designed to disrupt, destabilize, or modify the activities of other countries... But they are all illegal and they all disrupt the normal functioning, often the democratic functioning, of other societies. They raise serious questions about the moral responsibility of the United States in the international society of nations.
See , you give the intelligences services too much credit..

You forget Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen ...moles that worked for years with impunity .

How so very very long it took them to find Osama bin Laden

How about Bradley Manning and Eric Snowden , these men were able to pull the pants down on America's much vaulted security apparatus .

Putin's invasion of Crimean ...nobody saw that coming

I think you watch too much television ...!
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#229001 May 11, 2014
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>The poster Aerobatty correct as Part of the bible is into Porno and proverbs to soldified his position! You Bible is filled with sex, filth... horny Bible the authors Who wrote the Bible was nasty, dirty, sexually detailed .... Bhahahahaaa There more dirty verses from the Bible , just no time to look , So , FOOL, what you have to say, PORNGRAPHIC verses for you! bAHAHAHAAA
Let her breasts fill you at all times with delight;be intoxicated always in her love.—Proverbs 5:19
Song of Solomon 7:7 - This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters [of grapes].
Your annotations reveal what’s in your heart and it is you Sir that’s stricken with lasciviousness.[tipping hat]
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229002 May 11, 2014
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
James Petras interview
The Coup and Chavez's future
International Social Review, May-June 2002, p14
The real issue is that the U.S. wants to overthrow [Pres. Hugo Chavez] to put Venezuela in line with their other clients in Latin America and knock down the only government that offers an alternative foreign policy for the whole region. They don't want that alternative present.
That's why this coup was planned, directed, and financed by the Bush administration. It wasn't just the CIA. The assistant secretary of state for Western hemisphere affairs was involved - I'm talking about the Cuban terrorist exile Otto Reich. I'm talk ing about people like Elliot Abrams, who was in the Reagan administration and involved in justifying the killings in Central America, which amounted to 300,000 deaths. I'm talking about John Negroponte, the U.S. ambassador to the UN, who was involved with the death squads in Honduras.
I could give you a longer list. But you get an idea - you have thugs running U.S. policy in Latin America, who are capable not only of overthrowing a government but engaging in the kind of violent repression that was launched in those 24 hours of the coup [against Hugo Chave
Hugo Chavez had a net worth of 2 billion dollars , at his death ...While , Venezuela has steadily been swirling down the tubes ..

I seriously doubt with or without American covert operations , Latin America would not still remain a volatile and dangerous continent ...
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229003 May 11, 2014
UdiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>You world Biggest HYPROCRITE AND WAR MONGERING NEOCON sUPPORTER OF EVIL! Our US is the world biggest exporters of Weapons/arms worldwide and inciting nations to wars, so China and Russian have to counter by selling also , Then Why the world hates us , a US militaristic NeoImperialist?. But the US is the world biggest bully, no one naations compare to our US military Superiority! Did you know our US have over 900 US military worldwide and the world biggest US naval force worldwide spanning the seven seas,as most country hate our US for invading and setting up all these US military bases on their home turf..., And why our US have so many World enemies because our US bullies, plunders, rapes, mass murders many, no wonder they hate and fear our US for this , most don't want out US on there home turf because our Us cause instabilty and dissensions in their region of conflict , AQnd what happen if most of theses countries that our US had invaded in past and most decided to collobarates to push or US out of their home turf! Whaat you think happening in the Middle East , with the Arab Spring uprising as many Mid Eastern people protest against US occupation , and why So many US embassy closing worldwide at same time, they want our US out and return home because we causing dissension in the region. And < why African people want out US military out of whole of Africa! Etc,! you are ignorant of what us really going on worldwide, you been listen to much Us media corporatist/govt impact controls on you peon littlebrain! No wonder the world hate us Americans because we had invaded and plundered and mass murder many ..., So moron?
Please read the definition of gish gallop ....your posts are giving me a headache ..

See , I don't believe conspiracy theories ..This is what I know , the Afghanis are apprehensive of their future sans America occupation forces ..

The Iraqis asked for military intervention ..

Our bases in Djibouti , Pakistan , Bahrain and Kuwait ...haven't made the news in.....well since forever ...

Saying the world hates America is akin to saying Americans hate France ...You can find vocal French detractors everywhere , but on a whole ' we' love those cheese eating surrender monkeys ...Viva la France ..!
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229004 May 11, 2014
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
Denis Halliday
former UN coordinator of the Iraq Oil-for-Food Program about the U.S. embargo on Iraq in the 1990s
(Denis Halliday former UN coordinator of the Iraq Oil-for-Food Program about the U.S. embargo on Iraq in the 1990s
Iraq sanctions US war crimes US genocide US foreign policy
" We are destroying an entire society. It is as simple and terrifying as that.
.
...The biggest problem with American military interventions worldwide ...IS YOUR STUPID WHITE GUILT ....!!

I'm sorry , Americans we intercede just enough to be punitive , hoping that they will get the message and back-off . But, no this gives them the gumption " We were attacked by the most power army in the Universe , and we're still capable of retaliating ! "

And , so they do ...and we then kick it up a notch ....this only prolongs the conflict ..and..the suffering ..

White America " you " are not responsible for the suffering of the poor and subjected of the World ...In our next military intervention ....BRING A F**KING HAMMER ...!!
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229005 May 11, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
Hey Dave.
Michael Faraday on Cosmos tonight.
Maybe you can tell us all everything that he got wrong.
I don't believe Michael Faraday existed , you analytical mind types invented him to control the population and line your pockets with silver ...
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#229006 May 11, 2014
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
Howard Zinn - US historian
The United States has consistently opposed the, creation of an international war crimes tribunal because it could be used against people in the U.S. government and military. They are very explicit about it. In effect, the government is saying, "Yes, we have people who could be accused of having committed war crimes." The United States wants to find other people who have committed war crimes, but an American by definition cannot commit a war crime.
First off this tribunal's ..sole reason for existence will be to punish Israel ...and, I apologize for offending ' you ' but Antisemitism is not something I can rally behind ...!

Sometimes the United States makes necessary decisions ...and , to hold the President responsible for loss of life ...Ludicrous ..!!

okay , there are so many abuses committed by U.N. forces ....Are you calling for the arrest of the U.N. Secretary General ....?
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#229008 May 11, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your annotations reveal what’s in your heart and it is you Sir that’s stricken with lasciviousness.[tipping hat]
Pssst! I took proverbs randomly out of a Internet Bible! Sorry i'm no Bible Thumper! Bhahahhaaa

Since: Sep 08

Ordway, CO

#229009 May 11, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
Hey Dave.
Michael Faraday on Cosmos tonight.
Maybe you can tell us all everything that he got wrong.
number four wrote:
<quoted text>I don't believe Michael Faraday existed , you analytical mind types invented him to control the population and line your pockets with silver ...
I have posted about Micahel Faraday being the father of modern physics and a very devout Christian several times on here. In fact he was of a very fundamental sect that has since gone extinct.

Every bit of modern physics is based upon his research of EM.

Topix atheists like to make a lot of noise about religion stifling science. It was a devout theist that created the science they worship now.

Done told these folks dozens of time.

Jesus won. This world is Christianized.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#229010 May 11, 2014
Rodny wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know?
That is just materialist thinking.
Many atheists believe that consciousness continues after death.
Some scientists have even proved it and believe in it.
It has also been proven many times in hospitals on operating tables when the heart and all body functions have stopped working momentarily and the patient revived through artificial means afterwards, that the patient recalled seeing himself and all that was going on during that time.
I suggest you do some research about this.
Oh I have, it's pretty conclusive. Including the study where a picture was placed above patients
in OR in several hospitals, in a place they could only see it if they were having an actual OOBE .Not once was it verified, what it was in any instance.
Neuroscience also can explain the tunnel of light and the NDE as conditions of a dying brain. I'm sorry , there just is no evidence consciousness exists anywhere but within the living tissues of your brain and CNS.

I know you hope and wish there were a spirit, but there is no evidence of one. There does exist the possibility that we will one day be able to capture
all that is in your brain and preserve it electronically. But the idea that consciousness can exist outside the body is only wishful thinking at this point. There does exist the possibility that things like telepathy or precognition maybe possible. But even these are far too inconclusive to say they are possible, we can only say it appears it may be possible.
Which would mean that there is a few things about consciousness left to be unraveled.
But the key to understanding consciousness is that it is a trait and ability of living organisms.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#229011 May 11, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Aerobatty wrote:
Hey Dave.
Michael Faraday on Cosmos tonight.
Maybe you can tell us all everything that he got wrong.

I have posted about Micahel Faraday being the father of modern physics and a very devout Christian several times on here. In fact he was of a very fundamental sect that has since gone extinct.

Every bit of modern physics is based upon his research of EM.

Topix atheists like to make a lot of noise about religion stifling science. It was a devout theist that created the science they worship now.

Done told these folks dozens of time.

Jesus won. This world is Christianized.
Yeah.

The show even said that he was a devout Christian.

What it failed to mention was how much that influenced his research.

I wonder why?
UidoitRAceMakeWo rldPeace

United States

#229012 May 11, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...The biggest problem with American military interventions worldwide ...IS YOUR STUPID WHITE GUILT ....!!
I'm sorry , Americans we intercede just enough to be punitive , hoping that they will get the message and back-off . But, no this gives them the gumption " We were attacked by the most power army in the Universe , and we're still capable of retaliating ! "
And , so they do ...and we then kick it up a notch ....this only prolongs the conflict ..and..the suffering ..
White America " you " are not responsible for the suffering of the poor and subjected of the World ...In our next military intervention ....BRING A F**KING HAMMER ...!!
What the h3ll! As to American White Guilt, give me a break! LOOK you empathy less, heartless , cold-hearted , soulless and you are another IGNORANT GRUNTING PINHEAD, you mentally challenged as many civilians and soldiers died on both sides because of bad/illegal US Military Interventions without congressional approval. Then why don't those F! old mans in power go themselves and sent their elite children in harms way ? As most Soldiers are pawns and being used in protecting elites coffers of riches and to plunder of Raw resources called Black gold..., and to protecting there dirty bloody wealth at expenses of Americans ignorance and world is being bully by our US militarism neo-imperialist intervention agendas!. Wake up all! Ignorance is bliss for you!

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#229013 May 11, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
Aerobatty wrote:
Hey Dave.
Michael Faraday on Cosmos tonight.
Maybe you can tell us all everything that he got wrong.
<quoted text>
I have posted about Micahel Faraday being the father of modern physics and a very devout Christian several times on here. In fact he was of a very fundamental sect that has since gone extinct.
Every bit of modern physics is based upon his research of EM.
Topix atheists like to make a lot of noise about religion stifling science. It was a devout theist that created the science they worship now.
Done told these folks dozens of time.
Jesus won. This world is Christianized.
Dave all men of Faraday and Newtons days were religious.
All men or nearly all men before modern geology and the true age of Earth was discovered.
Before the bones of the hominids were found and evolution was prove a reality, believed in the bible and all men sought to verify those things written.
But what we found was modern geology the true age of Earth and evolution , all in conflict to the scriptures. If Faraday lived today,,he wouldn't have the same religious zeal , nor would Newton. They sadly did not have access to the knowledge we do today.
But they were the pioneers to teaching us how to find out the things they did not yet know.
For this they are great men, the great thing about Faraday, is he without an education learned to use the scientific method to discover many things. He used experimentation to come to many foundations of modern physics. Even Einstein admired this, but even Einstein was disappointed in what he discovered about the nature of reality.

Since: Sep 08

Ordway, CO

#229014 May 11, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah.
The show even said that he was a devout Christian.
What it failed to mention was how much that influenced his research.
I wonder why?
Keep wondering. Helps exercise the brain.
UidoitRAceMakeWo rldPeace

United States

#229015 May 11, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>First off this tribunal's ..sole reason for existence will be to punish Israel ...and, I apologize for offending ' you ' but Antisemitism is not something I can rally behind ...!
Sometimes the United States makes necessary decisions ...and , to hold the President responsible for loss of life ...Ludicrous ..!!
okay , there are so many abuses committed by U.N. forces ....Are you calling for the arrest of the U.N. Secretary General ....?
Excuse me! Look even some of Jews want to run far away not thing to do with brothe rwarrig Zionist Jews And, It not about Anti-semitism it more about warring Idealogy called Zionist that been causing dissension among brothers! i'm not Anti-semite but it is the Idealogy like Zionist is what causing most of conflict in US and in the Middle East. u so undereducated and biased, ignorant on how world works ,
Did you know quite a number of Palestinians and Jews collobarate and tooked to street to protes for peace between two nations along the border and Why our US/ISreal mass media Blackout this Protest for peace?
Know about AIPAC commitee and it power on the US leaders!
Wake up stupid, you War supporters are the ones causing these problems by supporting the corrupted in power! get a brain you grunter pinhead the ignorant brainwashed by corporatist/govt control impact controls on you feebleminded Zombie-liked brain! Wake up stupids! Do the research instead depending on US faux media ! Damn can not believe ignorance ! Bahhahahaaaa
ChristINSANITY is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#229016 May 11, 2014
Rodny wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know?
That is just materialist thinking.
Many atheists believe that consciousness continues after death.
Some scientists have even proved it and believe in it.
It has also been proven many times in hospitals on operating tables when the heart and all body functions have stopped working momentarily and the patient revived through artificial means afterwards, that the patient recalled seeing himself and all that was going on during that time.
I suggest you do some research about this.
Stop lying
No one ever proved that consciousness lives on after Death..

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