Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#228248 May 3, 2014
ChristINSANITY is EVIL wrote:
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So much for a Perfect Designer eh buckyboy!
You have never heard me refer to a perfect designer. I am quite sure the Creator made some mistakes. Look at you, for example.

The plumbing in your brain got clogged in some key places, interfering with your functionating. Here is an example.

God made mistakes he fessed up to in the Bible. Where did you get the being perfect from? Or the poofing?

Be careful about the stuff you let into your pipes.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#228249 May 3, 2014
Some people cast their bread on the water just to feed the fishies. Most others cast it with a hook in it. If a juicy worm is chunked out there it is almost guaranteed to have that hook and line attached.

Be careful what you bite down on, and how.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#228250 May 3, 2014
River Tam wrote:
I don't know. I haven't broken it yet.
Hymen's are tough that way...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#228251 May 3, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You have never heard me refer to a perfect designer. I am quite sure the Creator made some mistakes. Look at you, for example.
The plumbing in your brain got clogged in some key places, interfering with your functionating. Here is an example.
God made mistakes he fessed up to in the Bible. Where did you get the being perfect from? Or the poofing?
Be careful about the stuff you let into your pipes.
The Topix Atheist! always infer that if a perfect God created humans, we would also be perfect.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#228252 May 3, 2014

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#228253 May 3, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The Topix Atheist! always infer that if a perfect God created humans, we would also be perfect.
They have a tendency to be wannabes. Just sour grapes.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#228254 May 3, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are an old man, eh? Glad you told us that. Never would have guessed it.
I forgot to point out in that post that you make associations, automatically, of various aspects of the existential condition and poo poo them all together. You lump too many things in the same pile. Just like you were trained to. Suits your master well. Keeps you from digging for those little tidbits of truth buried in most things that interfere with their uses for you.
Treasure is never handed to you on a silver platter. Nor "The Truth". Bait can be.

But your belly is full of "FOOLS" gold , you took what you wanted from the salad bar, hook line and plunker.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#228255 May 3, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Topix atheists, and admittedly others not using that brand, have a fundamental flaw in their higher mental functions. They can't understand processes, just "things". "Things" must be delivered to them pre-packaged for them to function on at least some level.

They are like a gas water heater that doesn't stay lit. You can push that button all day and the pilot light never lights, or it does light but goes out when you release the valve. You just get no useful hot water out of them. All that potential and they just won't fire up.

Usually those things will work if you ensure the thermocouple connections are good, clean and complete, Mankind has made some pretty reliable physical components that just need some adjusting to function properly. Total failure of components or manufacuring defects are actually not that common. However, such usually requires some disassembly and knowledge to diagnose and reassemble. Some corrosion in the thermocouple connections is usually the case, usually effected by the environment and length of exposure to it.

The Grand Plumber has the same issue with mankind.
You are using a lot of words lately.

You've gone from word salad to verbal diarrhea.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#228256 May 3, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
Oh, speaking of Topix atheists and defective water heaters.

Batbrain disparaged my knowledge and understanding of basic electricity a few posts ago. Little Tammy and others also like to poo poo my observations. I don't get into the deep sophistry of the books they glean their "knowledge" and thus intelligence from. I've just worked with the stuff and see how it works together. There is a common pattern to the distribution of energy, whether it is water or other mass in motion or charge in electricity. They follow the same basic rules.

Those thermocouples in water heaters. They are dissimilar metals that produce electricity at certain temps. The standard configuration for gas appliances has one stuck in the pilot flame that produces a voltage to open a valve in the gas line to fire the burners. This shuts off the gas if the pilot light goes out after intitial ignition. Pushing the knob bypasses that circuitry, releasing engages it.

You are looking at usually around 30 millivolts of electricity doing that can be done with even less. That is 30/1000th of a volt. Working through metal. And not a lot of amperage, rather miniscule actually. But that can turn a very small energy into a 40,000 and way beyond BTU expenditure of energy. Little Tammy's cellphone uses around 4 volts to talk to the rest of the world.

Biological life works on even lower potential differences.

You have seen me stress environmental influences of EM on the human condition, primarily via EM induction. That induction is just charge working on charge via motion. Assuming motion is a "physical" process as we perceive it.

You function by leveraging forces. Gating larger forces. Do you really think your puny output is controlling the universe?

You are an effect of something larger. You have to think larger to grasp just what you are doing here, breaking the bonds of pure material action/reaction/consciousness. And being just an effect of a larger consciousness, and happy with the experience. Quit trying to second guess it. You aren't qualified.

We will be allowed to see more of the "reality" if we change our perspective of it. You have to look beyond the purely "material". And definitely beyond your imagined 'self". Look further than that book page you have your nose stuck in. Makes you myopic. And easy to be led by the nose.
You want some TP to wipe that up?

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#228257 May 3, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
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You want some TP to wipe that up?
No, that's your lunch.

Brain food for you.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#228259 May 3, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
My grandson went to an audition for Ender's Game on a lark with my granddaughter, who is a few years younger, and wound up as an uncredited extra. My granddaughter is the aspiring star, and was crushed by that. But they didn't really have a slot for her age group in the movie.
Good movie, though you need to watch a few times to pick up some things.
My grandson has several appearances in it, but the best are as one of the launchies wearing the yellow jumpsuits in the beginning. When Ender enters the transport to go to battle school you will see him as the Asian looking young man slouched down at the far right in the front row. Next will be when Sgt Dapp enters the squad room for the first time. He will be the tall thin young man at the very back on the right. A fairly good closeup will occur in that scene when Dapp walks to the back. Another is late during Ender's pushups. His Asian appearance is much less pronounced without the haircut, and wearing the glasses Nelson genes require. His mother's side doesn't need them.
Actually he should have played Ender. That is no doting Grandpa saying that. Would have been no strain on him. Totally natural.:-)
But he has more important things to do in coming years. My granddaughter will be the star, but not in movies. Both on levels unrealized to date. Neither is your garden variety human product.
I did OK in this life.
:-)
Soooo cool.[tipping hat]

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#228260 May 3, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Ravens are Crows
I didn't realize that ravens are a subgenus of crows or even that there are nine species of ravens until I looked it up just now. Guess I'm a few crows short of a murder...
ChristINSANITY is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#228261 May 3, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You have never heard me refer to a perfect designer. I am quite sure the Creator made some mistakes. Look at you, for example.
The plumbing in your brain got clogged in some key places, interfering with your functionating. Here is an example.
God made mistakes he fessed up to in the Bible. Where did you get the being perfect from? Or the poofing?
Be careful about the stuff you let into your pipes.
I leave the funny puffs and life magnets to you silly dude..

Perfect god made mistakes?
How's that possible,is he maybe made up in the Image of kristains!?
LLL

www.evilbible.com
ChristINSANITY is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#228262 May 3, 2014
Looky, Dave's brother

http://www.alexchiu.com/

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#228263 May 3, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
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I didn't realize that ravens are a subgenus of crows or even that there are nine species of ravens until I looked it up just now. Guess I'm a few crows short of a murder...
LOL
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#228264 May 3, 2014
Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>You agree with Ben? I pity anyone so hate filled as him. Of course he gets a pass spewing his hate and bigotry here. What a waste.
Does that mean Redneck can make his jokes about women, gays, Asians, blacks and so forth, but "the other side" doesn't get a pass when we do it?

You'll notice I have no unkind words for anyone who is not unkind to me.
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#228265 May 3, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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We're just waiting on the Rapture, like you.
Does Teh God take former homosexuals?
Well, technically, some of us are more anxious for the Rapture than others.........
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#228266 May 3, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
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Just throw 'em off a cliff, the jesus character did.
BenAdam wrote:
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That Bible story is baffling, Why did a Jewish farmer have a herd of pigs ?
Oh, she was talking about the livestock!

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#228267 May 3, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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You do realize that many of the ancient drawings are on cliff faces and hard rock walls and not in caves. Those rock cliffs and walls have stood exposed to the elements for hundreds of thousands of years. They are most certainly hard to scratch.
Most cave "drawings" are not scratch into the surface either. They are painted figures using various paints and pigment methods.
Which goes back to my original question to Dave. How do you know it wasn't just bored kids finger painting?

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#228268 May 3, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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It seems to me that anyone who plans on pursuing a medical field profession would be well advised to abandon childish smartass approaches to learning new things. The successful ones in that field are naturally curious and imaginative about possibilities, and not flippantly dismissive when a new bit of info surfaces.
Just sayin'.
Hi. I'm River.

Have we met?

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