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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#228025 May 1, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>like I said , it's to general to be any kind of prophecy. Besides It's a known fact that Aliens are not to be trusted with any kind of predictions I thought you knew this!!!!
I'll make a prophecy, and I know it will come true. Ten years from this date, EXACTLY, the world population will be larger than it is now!!! I'll even make another one......Within the next 2 years, there will be a house fire in the town you now live in.
Both of these prophecies are just a valid as the one you CLAIM were made by Aliens. BTW what planet do they come from? What means of communication do they use? They obviously can communicate in the language at that time in order to make this bogus prophecy. What do they look like? On what date and to whom did they reveal this prophecy? This last questions is one you must answer or we will all know your making shit up. If you claim the prophecy is a fact just because it's written in an ancient holy book, then you and this prophecy have zero credibility. This would mean you have to believe everything that happened in all of the ancient Greek texts, all of the ancient Chinese texts. What makes your ancient book any more valid than ancient Greek texts?
You lose all the way around, you have no leg to stand on, you're just another crazy Christian spouting pure unadulterated bullshite!!!
Well, well, well! NOW you are going to finally respond...

1. "Too general"?

A band of recent slaves, wandering in a desert are going to become a great nation if they build their culture around the Laws this Alien gives.

Incredibly specific and exceptional in history.

2. "Known fact Aliens are not to be trusted"?

I'd LOVE to know where you got that little tidbit of information!

3. You'll make a 'prophecy'.

LOL, first, it hardly equates at any point of measure.

Second, guess what? Social scientists predict world population will DECLINE.

The house fire? Embarrassingly stupid.

4. As to your questions? I don't know. Those questions don't matter because they still leave this:

You claimed the Bible is a valueless fiction book. I noted that the Jews stand today in blatant opposition to your claim, as predicted by the Alien.

I haven't even started noting elements of the Alien's very presence as a radiation threat to humans, or the scientific significance of numerous laws.

You still have no answer.

Either retract your claim or produce a plausible explanation.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#228026 May 1, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I don't respond to crazy people, sorry!!!!
No need to apologize. I am sure you have had issues responding to intellectual stimulus all of your life.

Other than going into shriek mode.

Perhaps the brain throbs disturb your hemorrhoids?

Poor guy.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#228027 May 1, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you should do your own research.
Or don't and continue to make anass "out of yourself on an international public forum".
It really is very helpful.
Neigh.
Oh I have.

That's why I asked you to explain your claim.

Got problems?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#228028 May 1, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL,
"Facts don't need judging".
1. How did they become facts 'RATIONAL atheist' oxymoron???
2. She didn't list any facts. She mentioned a name.
Smirk smile.
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>You're too stupid to follow along. I'll leave you with this.
The doctrine that future happiness depends upon belief is monstrous. It is the infamy of infamies. The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason, observation and experience merits everlasting pain, is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance, called "faith." What man, who ever thinks, can believe that blood can appease God? And yet, our entire system of religion is based upon that belief. The Jews pacified Jehovah with the blood of animals, and according to the Christian system, the blood of Jesus softened the heart of God a little, and rendered possible the salvation of a fortunate few. It is hard to conceive how the human mind can give assent to such terrible ideas, or how any sane man can read the Bible and still believe in the doctrine of inspiration.- RGI
I'm following along just fine.

In fact, you are trying to shift the subject because you hitched your shiite to a crashing plane that is now a sinking ship.

Snicker smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#228029 May 1, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I just gave you an example of one that is fulfilled right now in front of your eyes. Made 5000 years ago.
And all you can do is make unvalidated denials.
Epic fail honey.
Smile.
<quoted text>
Huh?
How does your quote explain a 5,000 year old prediction that we see fulfilled in our time? A prophecy that distinguishes Jews from every other culture?
I'm just trying to understand the reasoning of the 'rational atheist' oxymoron poster punk.
Smile.
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Confirmation bias.
I
No it's not, and you've provided no explanation on why it is.

The presence today of the Jewish culture as specifically predicted by the Alien is hardly confirmation bias.

You know that. That is why you are desperately trying to shift the subject.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#228030 May 1, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
"Break" is as close as you get to the events. The truth is you lie.
1. She claimed Christianity is a total copy of other religions.
2. I listed the premiere characteristic of Christianity (C.S. Lewis is certainly not the only person who noted it, most Christian children know it too).
3. She gave the name of a religion.
4. I asked for a specific description how that grace works in Hinduism that requires performance for perfection.
Now, perhaps if all of you 'rational atheist' oxymorons put your heads together, I might get a reasoned answer?
Oh wait, she already bailed. Again.
Snicker.
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Come on, Internet tough guy, name your time and place. Come at me, bro.
I
Ah, the 'rational atheist' oxymoron poster punk can't answer shiite, so now he wants to fight a near senile old jack ass!

Pretty typical practice of 'rational atheist' oxymorons taking the moral high ground from Christians!

I'm in your head. Damn it's lonely here!

Snicker smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#228031 May 1, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>You're doing this religion thing wrong, Pusillanimous Preacher. You need to take your freak show on the road and start grabbing the tithe money. Whoops, that's right. You're too scared to go out in public.
Christianity has such a contemptible opinion of human nature that it does not believe a man can tell the truth unless frightened by a belief in God. No lower opinion of the human race has ever been expressed.- RGI
How hypocritically ironic and stupid.

You make a blatant idiotic troll assault, and then quote a fellow 'rational atheist' oxymoron deriding supposed Christian immorality.

For some reason, I expected more from the RAO ('rational atheist' oxymoron) poster punk. How discouraging that evil makes one so blindly stupid.

Smile.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#228032 May 1, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Your Jesus was a myth, is that clear enough?
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text> You convincing yourself right?
Because surely I would hope you really not that stupid to think just because you write "Jesus was a myth" on a internet billboard that makes any difference to Christianity or to those that worship Jesus as God.
Once upon a time blacklagoon related a war story to us from his time in Vietnam.

He was in a foxhole of 5 atheists. He claimed they were all atheists.

A grenade landed in it and one of them jumped on it to save his and the other's lives.

He said this was a true story.

Five YOUNG men in war in a foxhole in battle and all hard core atheists. And one sacrifices his life in an instant decision to saved others. Of course it was because of evolution and no religious beliefs that triggered that instant decision according to him.

Where in the Atheist Manual does it preach self sacrifice, giving up the only one you have, to save comrades by chance in a war based on economics, especially since those buddies by chance were also engaged in the effort to kill others?

I am sure the young man grew up with some religious training in his background somewhere that contributed to his split second decision.

Which saved blacklagoon's life.

Which allowed him to play with his sailboat and get on here and ridicule anyone with religious belief.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#228033 May 1, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth makes you nervous?
It should.
Wise words from long ago: "There is nothing new under the sun".
Fools like you are as old as humanity.
By the way, you do a great job as the 'rational atheist' oxymoron poster punk.
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>1. You have zero truths.
2. Nothing about you makes me nervous. Nauseous, yes.
3. You call me a punk but you won't name a time and place to say it to me in person.
1. So far you've epically failed at explaining just two recent challenges.

2. You are too dumb to know the terror that awaits. The nauseousness is embarrassment at how stupid you are looking as the RAO poster punk.

3. Are you physically threatening me?

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#228034 May 1, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
"By dying".
Wrong, and don't know shiite about theology. Look it up and learn.
You have proof it is a con? Please show me your scientific proof 'rational atheist' oxymoron poster punk.
Smile.
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>So, you don't have to die? Hookay, ITG. Proof? Well, there's you. Here is your proof in two words. Kenneth Copeland. You clowns sell a product you never have to deliver. The very definition of con.
First, KC hardly represents any measurable segment of classic Christianity.

Second, his theology claims power over death. I think you were trying to go the OTHER way...

Another epic fail. Sigh. I'm beginning to feel sorry for you poster punk...

Snicker smile.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#228035 May 1, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Your Jesus was a myth, is that clear enough?
Clear that you think he's a myth.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

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#228036 May 1, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
"Under Communist Party rule since 1949, China is officially an atheist country, but Christianity is growing. According to the Pew Research Center, China's Christian population had reached 67 million by 2010, the second largest in Asia."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/01/world/asia/chin...
That is a sizeable percentage of people committed to a belief. In fact, too big not to increase in number. That many in concert will sway the non-committed and apathetic.
I have posted many times about Christianity being the escape from the tyranny of man over man. Just takes time and belief your god will prevail, which is built into the religion. Atheists, Topix type included, are geared to immediate self-gratification. That is why they always get swept away with the dust in time.
Buddhism is comparative in numbers to Christianity in China. I don't see your point. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in China. None of it matters. The state makes the rules. I would advise following them.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#228037 May 1, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Your Jesus was a myth, is that clear enough?
Clear that you can't prove he's a myth.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#228038 May 1, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Buddhism is comparative in numbers to Christianity in China. I don't see your point. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in China. None of it matters. The state makes the rules. I would advise following them.
Th state is fighting a losing battle.

Buddhists have been known to get activist in social issues. I would assume a lot of the Islam in China is from annexed territories. They already have issues with them.

Christianity was totally evangelical. Buddhism is home grown, as is much of that Islam.

Explain how that foreign religion has gained such a foothold.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#228039 May 1, 2014
Talking Birds,

The African Grey Parrots (Psittacus) are particularly noted for their advanced cognitive abilities and their ability to talk. There are two domesticated species of which the Timneh African Grey (Psittacus timneh) tends to learn to speak at a younger age than the Congo African Grey (Psittacus erithacus). Pet Congo African Greys may learn to speak within their first year, but many do not say their first word until 12–18 months old. Timnehs are generally observed to start speaking earlier, some in their late first year.

"Alex" had a vocabulary of about 100 words, substantially less than world record holders, but he is perhaps the best known talking bird due to the publicity surrounding his potential cognitive abilities. In learning to speak, Alex showed scientist Irene Pepperberg that he understood categories like "same and different" and "bigger and smaller".

He could identify objects by their shape ("Three-corner", "Four-corner", up to "Six-corner") and material: when shown a pom-pom or a wooden block, he could answer "Wool" or "Wood" correctly, about 80% of the time. Alex could identify the difference between yellow and green same-sized objects by saying "Color" or identify a larger one by naming its color. If asked what the difference was between two identical blue keys, Alex learned to reply, "None" (he pronounced it "Nuh").

Alex died on September 6, 2007.

"Prudle" held the Guinness World Record for the bird with the biggest vocabulary for many years with a documented vocabulary of 800 words.

"N'kisi" is noted for his impressive English usage skills and other abilities. As of January 2004, he had a documented vocabulary of 950 words. N'kisi is believed to be one of the most advanced users of human language in the animal world.

"Einstein" appeared on many television shows and became famous for her ability to recreate sounds as well as talking. Video clips show her making the sound of a laser beam generator and an evil-sounding laugh. She has been trained by Stephanie White.

"Bibi", a Congo African Grey Parrot, is able to use greetings from 20 different languages and count in 6, earning her the nickname "The Polyglot Parrot." At 6 years old, Bibi has already developed a vocabulary of more than 500 words.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_bird

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In my opinion birds may start out mimicking sounds they hear. But overtime some species of birds are able to understand what the words mean. In nature birds have certain calls that mean certain things. They’re smart enough to know our language also has meaning.

I had two cockatiels and mine didn’t talk but boy did they love to whistle especially when the Andy Griffith show came on. The would go crazy. They would also growl at the dog to humor us.[laughing]

A friend of mine had a cockatiel that would talk to their dog. When the family would leave somewhere together they would hear the bird call the dog whose name was “PJ” and yell for help.“PJ come help me PJ, help me PJ!”
Like he was trying to break out of prison.

“Aaaaaaaaaaaaah”

Since: Aug 07

Piscataway

#228040 May 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
My ex-wife told you that? What's her name? If you feel uncomfortable posting a person's real name here, how about you just post her initials?
I realize you're not very bright, but that was obviously a set up to a joke.

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#228041 May 1, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Buddhism is comparative in numbers to Christianity in China. I don't see your point. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in China. None of it matters. The state makes the rules. I would advise following them.
I took photographs of uniformed guys sitting around a table in Tienanmen Square.

I promptly found out it was not a good idea.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#228042 May 1, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>You have some memory impairment issues.

Go back and read your rants about religion stifling science.
What did I claim was impossible?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#228043 May 1, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
There is an age old wisdom that permeates the consciousness of mankind. You will see it everywhere. In religions, popular culture, philosophy, or you name it where it deals with higher intellectual functions. Of course Topix atheists will deny it exists.

The message is you cut your own path through this life. You develop your own logic base to understand what is going on and where you may be headed.

This applies equally to religion and "science".

People tend to accept words without truly understanding the meaning of them. They learn phrases and repeat them in ignorance which then become icons. See those little icons on your browser? You click and something happens. You don't give a thought to the code and very complicated physical phenomenon kicked into gear.

Topix atheists deny wisdom or truth in religious writings, yet blindly accept the words of those they consider "scientists". Without understanding what the scientists are describing. Just like so many theists do listening to scripture passed on by preachers.

That is why I say play with magnets and strings. You start to understand how those basic forces interact in your own mind and logic. You get past your training by others that way. But you have to get past your laziness of thought. This applies to most things beyond just magnets and strings.

Topix atheist don't have a clue just how sheeplike they are in their thinking.
That was a lot of words.

What did they say?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#228044 May 1, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>you need LOTS of faith to buy into a con that's less than 200 years old but requires over 13.74 billion years of evidence to prove!
Hey!

You learned something!

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