Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Keep calm and use logic.”

Since: Apr 14

Los Angeles, CA.

#226467 Apr 22, 2014
scaritual wrote:
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Christianity: At least our religion isn't as bad as those other religions.
XD

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#226468 Apr 22, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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The movie was pretty scary too. I wonder if he was based on the real-life evil clown John Wayne Gacy?
Ha! That's an idea I never thought of.

Stephen King's writing is, to me, hit-or-miss. Some of it I love, like The Stand or It. Other of his books, not so much.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#226469 Apr 22, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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Seriously. Where do they get off ranting about abortion when they worship an infanticidal maniac who, according to the Bible, and assuming that spontaneous miscarriages were due to God's will, kill far more pregnant women, fetuses, and babies than humans ever have? Hello????
To me?

It's pretty obvious: they wish to keep women in their "place".

Women are **not** allowed to enjoy sex--**ever**-- it's a "duty" to "motherhood".

It's all about keeping women oppressed, and downtrodden. And denying abortion rights is but one of many ways in which they do this.

In some of the deeply-red states in the US? A rapist, who's victim has a child, has the right to SUE for VISITATION-- and can also sue to prevent an abortion...

... WTF?

These people are sick-- living in a Bronze Age delusion.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#226470 Apr 22, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The awl through the ear was just a piercing, and it was only done if the slave decided to stay. In other words, the slave got to choose. In no other culture at the time was that even allowed.
In that instance, the person was an indentured servant, but married and had a child during his 7 years. Since his wife was a full slave, the master owned her and the child. The indentured servant had the choice of going his way alone, or staying with his wife and child. Or children. Man what a choice. I guess he got a free slave he didn't have to buy. But that is what the choice was about.

A full bought slave never had a choice cause he was the property of the owner.
Clearwater

Safety Harbor, FL

#226471 Apr 22, 2014
ChristINSANITY is EVIL wrote:
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What would you do with xian psychos that murder abortion providing doctors?
Put that person in jail, perhaps the death penalty. Had a guy tell me once he felt it was moral to kill providers of abortion and I couldn't have disagreed more with that pov.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#226472 Apr 22, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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Ephesians 6:5 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ."
1 Timothy 6:1-2 "Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them."
What about those two NT passages which clearly condone slavery do you not understand?
I don't deny those passages. As I noted, Paul introduced a orderly transition. Hence verses like these that you deliberately ignore:

Philippians 2:3 (NIV)
3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Philemon 1:15-16 (NIV)
15 Perhaps the reason he was separated from you for a little while was that you might have him back for good--
16 no longer as a slave, but better than a slave, as a dear brother. He is very dear to me but even dearer to you, both as a man and as a brother in the Lord.

You lose credibility with denial like this. Keep it up and I'll simply ignore your foolishness and deceit.
Clearwater

Safety Harbor, FL

#226473 Apr 22, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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Maybe Clearwater considers wishing people dead to be worse than actually killing them?
No I just see so much hate and bigotry spewed here and will point it out. Especially with two faced people that pretend to be above it.
Clearwater

Safety Harbor, FL

#226474 Apr 22, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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Of course it is. Even if that group promotes a book which promotes slavery as a morally valid concept.
Your stock just went up with me. Most of it we won't agree with but I can live with that.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#226475 Apr 22, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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If you condemn slavery that's great, but you do so in direct contradiction to the Bible. And yet you use the Bible to condemn homosexuality.
Clueless, cherry-picking hypocrite.
See my last post to you.

Smirk.
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text> And please tell me what you do every day to combat contemporary slavery and child sacrifice. Yet more hypocrisy on your part.
I was President of a Pregnancy Center. We provided support for pregnant women as an option to abortion. We raised money to procure a ultra sound machine so pregnant women could see who they were carrying. I still contribute and speak out against abortion.

I am involved with Traffic411 in PA, addressing sex trafficking along I81.

What is missing, is how 'rational atheist' oxymorons like you have any basis to judge Christians today for things that occurred thousands of years ago, while you don't just ignore worse things today, you PARTICIPATE in them!

Your credibility is lost, and all you've gained is confirmation that you are a reprobate.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#226476 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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I don't deny those passages. As I noted, Paul introduced a orderly transition. Hence verses like these that you deliberately ignore:
Philippians 2:3 (NIV)
3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.
Philemon 1:15-16 (NIV)
15 Perhaps the reason he was separated from you for a little while was that you might have him back for good--
16 no longer as a slave, but better than a slave, as a dear brother. He is very dear to me but even dearer to you, both as a man and as a brother in the Lord.
You lose credibility with denial like this. Keep it up and I'll simply ignore your foolishness and deceit.
Neither of those passages condemn slavery in any way. And frankly, even if they had, all you would be left with is yet another Biblical contradiction.

The fact that the Bible EVER condoned slavery is damning. The fact that the Bible never condemns it is even worse.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#226477 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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See my last post to you.
Smirk.
I did Smirky, and you failed as usual.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#226478 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
I was President of a Pregnancy Center. We provided support for pregnant women as an option to abortion. We raised money to procure a ultra sound machine so pregnant women could see who they were carrying. I still contribute and speak out against abortion.
I am involved with Traffic411 in PA, addressing sex trafficking along I81.
What is missing, is how 'rational atheist' oxymorons like you have any basis to judge Christians today for things that occurred thousands of years ago, while you don't just ignore worse things today, you PARTICIPATE in them!
Your credibility is lost, and all you've gained is confirmation that you are a reprobate.
That's great, but it has nothing to do with either slavery or child sacrifice.

Do you at least condemn the murder of innocent children and pregnant women in the Bible?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#226479 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Really?
So is jail then.
Moreover, God warned Israel they would die and go into bondage if they became immoral. Exactly what happened.
wilderide wrote:
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So because God warned people that it was immoral that made it OK?
WTF?
Not so fast sweetie.

You said slavery is inherently immoral as a method of punishment or debt payment. That means jail would also be inherently immoral.

Is it or is it not absolutely immoral?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#226480 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Islam? It hardly qualifies in historical time or character to OT Law.
However you are avoiding the immoral abuse of women by atheists in the present time and your part, while castigating an ancient time that even Jews today don't practice, and certainly not Christians.
Smile.
JaclynNoel wrote:
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Seriously, where most people have a brain, do you have a smile?
Oh please Blondie, explain why that answer is foolish.

Or do you just have blonde hair where most people have a brain.

Smirk.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#226481 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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What is missing, is how 'rational atheist' oxymorons like you have any basis to judge Christians today for things that occurred thousands of years ago
LOL! First you embrace the Bible, then you want to pretend it's not important.

Schizophrenic much, Smirky?
Clearwater

Safety Harbor, FL

#226482 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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See my last post to you.
Smirk.
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I was President of a Pregnancy Center. We provided support for pregnant women as an option to abortion. We raised money to procure a ultra sound machine so pregnant women could see who they were carrying. I still contribute and speak out against abortion.
I am involved with Traffic411 in PA, addressing sex trafficking along I81.
What is missing, is how 'rational atheist' oxymorons like you have any basis to judge Christians today for things that occurred thousands of years ago, while you don't just ignore worse things today, you PARTICIPATE in them!
Your credibility is lost, and all you've gained is confirmation that you are a reprobate.
Indeed. A short time back Glenn Beck was raising money for a group that rescues children from being sold into sex slaves. I did try to watch part of a video of it but couldn't, I would have thrown up as its too much evil. Good on the center, we do the same here and while I do think abortion is pure evil God will have the last word.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#226483 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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The morality God established is sin leads to bondage and death. Always.
How did that shift?
Chess Jurist wrote:
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All fauna dies. Sin's got nothing to do with it, dopey.
No shit sherlock.
However, we were talking about God's morality shifting.
Man up and admit you were wrong.
Smile.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#226484 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
Not so fast sweetie.
You said slavery is inherently immoral as a method of punishment or debt payment. That means jail would also be inherently immoral.
Is it or is it not absolutely immoral?
Smile.
False equivalence. Indentured servitude is entirely different than incarceration. It's remarkable to me that you or anyone would be an apologist for slavery. That pretty much takes away your morality card right there.

BTW, "sweetie"? LOL! You crack me up Smirky.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#226485 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Today we pride ourselves with daughters in porn, or closer to home, free sex to any mongrel in the neighborhood.
And you condemn cultures that still protect their daughters from being labeled sluts?
Oh wait, not 'all' cultures, just ancient Abrahamic cultures!
Bigot.
Smile.
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Selling children into sexual bondage is a crime in our society. Justifying your deity's approval of that by pointing to the wost elements of our society merely reinforces the bankruptcy of your belief system and the blindness your religion causes.
Oh honey, I wasn't speaking about human trafficking, I was talking about the general public morality that uses abortion and the pill to do what used to be labeled being a slut.

You ignore and excuse that to condemn cultures that seek to prevent a woman from being so labeled, many times something the woman willingly participated in!

Major hypocrisy that exposes your bigotry and immorality.

Smile.

Since: Dec 12

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#226487 Apr 22, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>Take an ethics class sometime. Don't they still have community colleges in Riverside?
I don't think he'd get into community college.

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