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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#226391 Apr 22, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>Today? Belgium. The uber-Christian DeBeers family, African slave traders, machete-wielding amputates of 10 year olds whose family resisted their slavery, control the market. Diamonds are one of the most plentiful "jewels" on Earth, but you Christian profit mangers don't care whom is destroyed in their marketing. After all, you don't care about or answer to people. All that matters is your Pocketgod.
Actually , the Muslims of Africa , and the Jews of the West are more in control of the diamond trade than Christians , but, the point being if you purchase a diamond you are quite likely supporting slavery .

Why , doesn't "Wideride" condemn that ?

"Wilderide" you are blessed , your life has been so pampered but , in parts of the world this is not the case , a family may not be able to feed their children , that leaves them one of two options .

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#226392 Apr 22, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>This is how it is so blithely illustrated that Christianity is nonsense. They are required to jump through hoops to apologize for human bondage. Everyone in 2014, all 7 billion of us, know that human bondage is wrong. Is it universally banned. No. Why? Because idiots will always avail themselves and take advantage of the weakness of others. The difference between humanists and theists is that humanists realize how wrong the possession of others is while theists try to apologize for the behavior of other humans in the name of their pocket god.
Theists suck. They always have. They always will. Exalt gods? No! Exalt your fellow man!
Anybody with a slight amount of ethics knows how evil slavery was - and still is. Esp when you hear about some of the practices the slaves used to be subjected to!

Oh, but it's in the Bible.

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#226393 Apr 22, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> First off there is all types and the circumstances were totally different. It is not immoral to do work to pay off a debt or to agree to work for a seven year period to obtain a wife if both parties are in agreement. You are the ones who are making moral judgements which ignores cultural context. You say slavery is immoral by definition. That is an objective moral claim. What is your objective basis for your objective moral claim? The Romans thought slavery to be perfectly fine for their culture and time and who are you to say they were wrong and you are right? What is your objective basis to condemn the Romans?
OK, so it was immoral for the Romans to own slaves, esp sex slaves. It was perfectly fine for the Hebrews to own slaves, because they wrote the Bible.

Now I get it.

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#226394 Apr 22, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh beautiful.
I wouldn't worry, I have a sneaking suspicion that they don't think.
Too true. LOLOL
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#226395 Apr 22, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't seem to jive with what you posted just a few pages ago:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV...
Odd that, eh?
I think we should differentiate betwixt a "slaver" and a "master" .
The ' master' can be neutral , the 'slaver' more culpable .

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#226396 Apr 22, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
You equate abortion with killing children.
I don't.
Yeah, that changes the results...

'rational atheist' oxymoron morality again.

Smirk.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226397 Apr 22, 2014
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
And what did BibleGod say about slavery?
And how is it different now?
"BibleGod" said to pay them, said to release them from slavery after seven years, said to release them if they escaped.

Do you know what the Romans did to escaped slaves? They hunted them down and executed them. The Hebrews were far and wide above their time regarding slavery.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#226398 Apr 22, 2014
No Shiite wrote:
<quoted text>"Maybe you myth"?
Yes. If you would have read the post I was responding to, you would've seen that I was making fun of your atheist buddy who wrote that.
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#226399 Apr 22, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
And?
Slavery is immoral by definition. Why won't you condemn the slavery in the Bible as immoral?
You are nothing but a clanging gong ..If you have anything "made in China " you are supporting slavery ..If you have a fancy new mobile phone , you are supporting slavery ..Ergo..YOU, "Wilderide" ....by, your own words are immoral by definition ...

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#226400 Apr 22, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm...
"Show me proof that your laws of God do any better in stopping men from untoward acts against their fellow man."
You want me to show you proof of men NOT committing crimes? How thefuck am I supposed to do that?
Uh....
Here is what you said.
""The laws of men don't stop men, do they?"

Here is what I said.
""Show me proof that your laws of God do any better in stopping men from untoward acts against their fellow man."

Like I said
LEARN TO READ.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#226401 Apr 22, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Sounds like you do not approve or understand the motives of God? That is also addressed in Scripture.
<quoted text> Squared circles are not possible so everything is not possible. <quoted text> You provide two examples of one option. Essentially limit God to one option. Its impossible for God to save everyone. There is more than one option. Perhaps you should address Romans 9.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
God has mercy on whom He has mercy and he hardens whom He hardens. It is the Divine perogative of God.
Theologians draw a distinction between the desire of God and the will of God. if it was the will of God all men would be saved then all men would be saved.
http://www.divineviewpoint.com/illus_will_God...
Sounds like you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
My remarks were in response to the other poster saying that all things are possible.
Reason dictates that all things are not possible, but then since neither you nor I know all things, how do you know whether a thing is possible or not? You don't.

I have no idea what the "motives of God" are. Neither do you.
It is impossible to disapprove of, or understand, a thing of which you have no knowledge.

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#226402 Apr 22, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You can go to Norway all you want, that won't teach you about their laws.
You still have to read about them. What's the difference if you read about Norway's laws in Norway or not?
"You can go to Norway all you want, that won't teach you about their laws."
Only an idiotic fool would make such a claim.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#226403 Apr 22, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>You equate humans to animals.
I don't.
Why are the only arguments you have dishonest ones?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#226404 Apr 22, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
"BibleGod" said to pay them, said to release them from slavery after seven years, said to release them if they escaped.
Do you know what the Romans did to escaped slaves? They hunted them down and executed them. The Hebrews were far and wide above their time regarding slavery.
ONLY Hebrew slaves were released after 7 years, and other slave was not only kept for as long as the owner lived but could be, and most often WERE part of an inheritance and could now be kept by the children or whom ever the slave owner willed the slave to.

Oh, and you forgot the part where they could be beaten with a rod, injured terribly as long as they didn't die within a few days the owner was fine. if they died form their injuries a week later the slave owner was still ok great system eh!!!!

Did you mention the part where the slaves wife and children were held ransom so he couldn't leave? No I didn't think so

How about the way the slave was marked as the owners PROPERTY, with a awl driven through his ear as he was held up against the door, very nice "biblegod" you have there!!!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#226406 Apr 22, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>Here is what you said.
""The laws of men don't stop men, do they?"

Here is what I said.
""Show me proof that your laws of God do any better in stopping men from untoward acts against their fellow man."

Like I said
LEARN TO READ.
It's what arar does.

And then he cries like a little girl when it's done to him.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#226407 Apr 22, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..I'm selfish ...A whale has never given me a job , nor has a tree ...I have the best times and interactions ...with my own ...
You must be a kid, under 21 anyway. If you were truly selfish, you would fight for balance in the ecosystem that makes up earth. When the rainforests are gone and the oceans polluted to where there are no more whales, humans will be on the downslide and wont last many more years. We will be like the dinosaurs.

Ocean pollution, air pollution, earth pollution.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#226408 Apr 22, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is what you said.
""The laws of men don't stop men, do they?"
Here is what I said.
""Show me proof that your laws of God do any better in stopping men from untoward acts against their fellow man."
Like I said
LEARN TO READ.
In the Redneck's defense, he is a high school dropout.

Please don't expect him to be able to read well.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#226409 Apr 22, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
<quoted text>
"You can go to Norway all you want, that won't teach you about their laws."
Only an idiotic fool would make such a claim.
In defense of the Redneck, he is an idiotic fool.

Maybe that's not a very good defense?

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#226410 Apr 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Today we pride ourselves with daughters in porn, or closer to home, free sex to any mongrel in the neighborhood.
And you condemn cultures that still protect their daughters from being labeled sluts?
Oh wait, not 'all' cultures, just ancient Abrahamic cultures!
Bigot.
Smile.
Oh yeah I saw that one time, Afghanistan I believe, a guy brought his wife out into the rubble and put a bullet in her head on TV. That's how you protect the honor of your women. If they fail in anything, just shoot them. Guaranteed they will not do it a second time.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#226411 Apr 22, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
I like your parents. None of them have a clue what any of us have experienced, learnt and witnessed.
I like seeing more and more people stand up to the christian religion and its bleaters.
I'm incredibly fortunate to have such great parents.

Anyway, when Christian apologetics inevitably turns to the rhetorical tactic of reading people's minds, it's incredibly arrogant and clueless at the same time. "You know in your heart that my God is real, you just deny it" or "you were never really a Christian" or "you just reject Christianity because you prefer to sin" or some such crap like that. Their mind-reading skills leave much to be desired. I often like to respond with something like "you know in your heart that Ganesha is real, you just deny it".

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