Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225068 Apr 16, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Get banned ?
It's Siro/Rio/Etc/Etc ... notice the ISP...

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#225069 Apr 16, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>On the contrary, it's because I understand it that I reject it.
I disagree. Your incorrect assumption of Matthew 6:6 tells me that you don't understand it very well. You read it verbatim, sentence by sentence without caring about any kind of structure or context. In other words, you only read the surface and then scream "No! It's all a lie!!"

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#225070 Apr 16, 2014
ROCCO wrote:
<quoted text>Yo! Doubting Thomas here!

Seems like a remarkably long compilation of break and lunchtime minutes going on there today, oh contrite one.

Say it isn't so, truthfully.
Doubt away.

But if you want evidence, go back and look at the time span in between the bulk of my posts. You'll notice a big chunk of RR, then a void, then another big chunk, etc.

RR didn't used to have two hour time spans between posts....

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225071 Apr 16, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Atheism as a whole has no moral code or direction.
Correct. It's an utter lack of belief or faith in bullshyt (god). You cannot base morals on a **lack** of belief.

You need something else, like Secular Humanism.
Eagle 12 wrote:
Itís a belief that embraces nothingism.
Lie. Atheism is not belief in "nothingism" (which isn't even a word).

Atheism simply means the person does not fall for the god bullshyt.

That's it.
Eagle 12 wrote:
Thereís no code of conduct or benevolent duty with being Atheist. Nor is there any required standard of principles for them to follow.
Correct-- except for the not-believing-in-insane-concep ts-like-god part.

You keep leaving that out.

I suppose because you *do* believe in the insane god-idea.

That explains why you keep getting it wrong...
Eagle 12 wrote:
The belief in nothingism produces no compassionate felling for their fellow man.
There is no such thing as "belief in nothingism".

More of your insanity?

That seems reasonable.
Eagle 12 wrote:
For example Atheist have no code of conduct that bans lying, deceitfulness, treachery, treason, false accusations, deception, theft to name a few. Some Atheist certainly are law abiding and good citizens. Iím just saying Atheism as a whole has no code of conduct.
Look up Secular Humanism.

It's a superior moral code to your evil bible in every way possible.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225072 Apr 16, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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The lack of benevolent Atheist organizations in any serious numbers is evidence that Atheism is a self centered belief system. Atheist have no code of conduct or sworn duty to promote benevolence.
Secular Humanism.

A belief system that is superior to yours in every way imaginable.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225073 Apr 16, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Party affiliation is irrelevant, the money is though.
Note: Hillary, Bill, Obama and Barney Frank. All liars and scum.
I do not talk to pedophiles (you)

I also do not talk to drug dealers (you, again)

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#225074 Apr 16, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Yes, maybe a better comparison would be a contagious disease.
An insidious disease that ravages one's mind, and removes all self-identity.

And then it strips away any and all ability to question.

Yes-- mental disease is apropos.

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#225075 Apr 16, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>No, Luke says not to judge others, because you will be judged by God with the same criteria you judge others. "For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
I know. I'm not trying to pass internal judgment on anyone. You have never seen me write anything like "you are going to hell" or "you will burn in hell".

You haven't seen that from me and you won't see that from me, because I understand that Jesus forbids humans to pass eternal judgment on others.

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San Francisco

#225076 Apr 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I disagree. Your incorrect assumption of Matthew 6:6 tells me that you don't understand it very well. You read it verbatim, sentence by sentence without caring about any kind of structure or context. In other words, you only read the surface and then scream "No! It's all a lie!!"
If I was reading Matthew verbatim then I'd need to be fluent in Greek. As it is I'm trusting in the accuracy of someone else's translation into English. But aside from that, you are saying I'm wrong without presenting your case of what it does say and mean. So I have no reason to believe that you have an alternative explanation.

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#225077 Apr 16, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>I don't cling to atheism, you moron.

It's just the way it is. Can you start believing in Santa Claus again?

Same thing here. I'd need a major head injury to start believing in fairy tales again.
I never believed in Santa Claus, so to say I could start believing in Santa Claus "again" would not be possible.

Since you don't believe in Santa Claus, which I assume you're comparing to your lack of belief in God, do you spend an equal amount of time arguing with people about the existence of Santa Claus or the validity of his "list"? Do you argue with people that he doesn't actually check it twice?

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#225079 Apr 16, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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"But even the largest typically practiced a pretty primitive style of dictatorship/tribal leader."
Horseshit oh Ignorant Bob of Quantum Proportions.
Tribal Councils most certainly were not and still are not " a pretty primitive style of dictatorship/tribal leader".
Try again Brainless Bob.
You are such a horses' azz, that I cannot fathom why you are still alive.

Such assholery you display (as in the above) is grounds for someone ending your miserable existence--

-- unless you've surrounded yourself with even more stupid people than yourself?

That must be it.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225080 Apr 16, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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And just what is my "God" for which you wish proof of existence Bob?
What church do I uh, belong, to Bob?
You are a religiousasshole.

I **know** you have a god you believe in.

I really don't care which of the insane asylums (church) you belong to -- it hardly matters.

More likely-- you are **such** an assholeabuser, that you've been kicked out of them all.

That fits all the available facts.

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#225081 Apr 16, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Atheist donít have kids, they have offspring.
They donít have brothers and sisters, they have siblings.
Nor do they have parents. Instead they have progenitors.
Love? They donĎt feel love. Love is a biblical term found 310 times in both the Old and New Testament. No, Atheist donít feel love. Atheist experience natural selection and instincts given to them from evolution.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Many congratulations on officially becoming a troll! You've earned it!

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225083 Apr 16, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Male bovine excrement, Clueless Bob.
Yes-- you described the entire sum of all your shitposts quite nicely.

Your posts are bullshitposts.

And I **KNOW** you are clueless---- why do you keep telling me you are?

That's quite evident from your bullshitposts.

Oh! pardon me-- your **religious** bullshitposts

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225084 Apr 16, 2014
Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Funny. Already answered Bobbie.
Did you employ your scientific method to determine that Clueless Bob?
The evidence that you are incorrect has already been posted son.
Yeah, that time the "evidence" came before you engaged your brand of "science".
<smile>
Look-- we all know you are cluess.

Why do you keep telling us you are CLUELESS?

Oh!

You're religious! I should have known, from all your bullshitposting.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225085 Apr 16, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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does this mean that you would support sending my types to concentration camps for inihilation if a leader emerged and began to do so? rhetorical quesion;-)
Nope.

I do not support sending ANYONE-- NO MATTER WHAT-- to concentration camps. Unlike you? I think that's evil-- and never justified. And yes-- I'm against Guantamino too.

But concentration camps? That is the activity of you DEEPLY RELIGIOUS types.

History teaches this lesson all too well-- ALL the examples where people are systematically murdered is at the hands of the DEEPLY RELIGIOUS.

Like you.

You would burn me on a flaming stake, if you could-- wouldn't you?

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#225086 Apr 16, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>If I was reading Matthew verbatim then I'd need to be fluent in Greek. As it is I'm trusting in the accuracy of someone else's translation into English. But aside from that, you are saying I'm wrong without presenting your case of what it does say and mean. So I have no reason to believe that you have an alternative explanation.
I've explained it to you, I've presented my case, you just don't want to hear it. You like being stuck in your anti-biblical rut.

The question is, why?

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#225087 Apr 16, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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And you also consider yourself a good example to others of how a Christian should behave no doubt, right?
... without a doubt-- more of that massive ego again.

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#225088 Apr 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Tell me how atheism gives a person hope. Go.
<quoted text>
Okay, there's two of you dumbass atheists that couldn't answer the question.
Anyone else? How does atheism give a person hope?
In the same way that theism, polytheism, monotheism, pantheism, henotheism, or deism does. Which is none. None of those remove hope either.

Those terms refer to a category or concept.

A person's "hope", expectations or wishes depends on themselves.

Just look at the word, "theism". That word gives hope? How?

It's just the word used to represent the >concept< of the doctrine or belief in the existence of a god or gods. That word says nothing more or less about what theism implies or represents as a concept.

Theism. Polytheism. Pantheism. Atheism.

Those words simply denote a category. You are theist. Your personal religious belief makes you a Christian theist. Your religious belief - is what you base your expectations or, "hope" upon.

Atheism is no more a religion than theism, monotheism, or polytheism are religions.

So, atheism gives or removes hope no more than theism, monotheism, or polytheism gives or removes hope.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225089 Apr 16, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Many congratulations on officially becoming a troll! You've earned it!
Indeed-- he's a miserable old christian.

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