Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#224473 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>Describe the exact nature of your god and I will handily disprove it. I have yet to have one theist respond to this challenge.
The entire nature ...?

It has been said that even if the seas were turn to ink ...that wouldn't be enough to describe even one of His many attributes ...

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#224474 Apr 13, 2014
River Tam wrote:
Sorry. Am I treading on your turf?
You speak French?
We

poo poo

Manage a toy

Poly view

Deja view

See? I speak the France talk.
IPSEC

Irving, TX

#224475 Apr 13, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Pedantry? ooo lala
So, which construction equipment sales are conducted at this time on a Saturday evening?
IPSEC

Irving, TX

#224476 Apr 13, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..Look..I WAS THERE ....!!...
Psst, if they had penises, they weren't girls.

Why were you partaking in prostitution you prevaricating putz?
IPSEC

Irving, TX

#224477 Apr 13, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>The entire nature ...?
It has been said that even if the seas were turn to ink ...that wouldn't be enough to describe even one of His many attributes ...
I never wrote entire. Describe the exact nature of your god. It has been said because your god is imaginary and no one can describe its exact nature. It is funny, though, because Christianity, Inc. rakes in billions every year while telling people exactly what Divine Dear Leader wants.
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#224478 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>What idol am I worshipping. You are a Christian which is the ultimate worship of self over everything else.
Your Divine Dear Leader is an incompetent middle manager at best.
If I didn't want people to suffer perdition, I wouldn't have it, especially for something as innocuous as a thought crime. The entire system as described in your fantasy book is a major moral failure. Infinite torture for finite thought crime is highly immoral in the standards and laws of our modern world. The authors of the Booble were trying to consolidate power and money as repentance was tied directly to tithing and acquiescence to the Church.
The best way to be an atheist is to read the Booble. This is why many atheists have a better grasp on Scripture than the theists who only get regurgitated study on Wednesday and Sunday.
given more than ample time and a myriad exhortations to repent ...it is obvious God doesn't people to suffer perdition either ..

the idol you heathens adore is self ...you , put self above God ....
IPSEC

Irving, TX

#224479 Apr 13, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
We
poo poo
Manage a toy
Poly view
Deja view
See? I speak the France talk.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.-.Martin Luther King, Jr.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#224480 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>So, which construction equipment sales are conducted at this time on a Saturday evening?
How would I know?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#224481 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
You're lost in the woods on this one. The original poster sarcastically stated that headaches are caused by sin.
She wasn't being sarcastic, she was being very serious. She often blames Christianity for bad things, never credits Christianity for good things.

That should show you an extreme bias and make you skeptical.

But you're not really a skeptic.
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#224482 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>The number one source of Christian persecution was from other Christians. The Puritans escaped England because they were not allowed to impose their brand on other Christians. They came to the New World and continued their persecution. All the sects outside of the Quakers, Amish and Mennonites did. Christian on Christian crime and murder was rampant in the Colonies outside of Smith's Rhode Island and Penn's Pennsylvania.
The Danbury Baptists were actually the impetus for the First Amendment, a law which actually allowed Christianity to flourish in this country. No one wants to be told how or what to worship, as god belief is nothing more than an extension of the ego. If there were an official state religion in America, Christianity would have died off as it has in Europe. If an official religion were imposed here now, the resultant religious war would be the bloodiest conflict in history. After all, which of the 40,000 sects and schisms of Christianity would be imposed?
The number one source of Christian persecution , that has been openly and honestly recorded ...is that that has occurred at the hands of other Christians ..

but , innocent Christian blood spilt by the Marxists is hidden and unknown ..same..goes to the blood spilt by the Muslims ....but , honest historians give us numbers that would shock the socks right off of your feet ..
IPSEC

Irving, TX

#224483 Apr 13, 2014
number four wrote:
<quoted text>given more than ample time and a myriad exhortations to repent ...it is obvious God doesn't people to suffer perdition either ..
the idol you heathens adore is self ...you , put self above God ....
No, your myth wouldn't have perdition if it didn't want it.

I told you before to have a thought and then go with the opposite. I don't worship myself. I don't have anything before your god for your god is imaginary. Christianity is the ultimate worship of self. Ask yourself honestly, when was the last time your god disagreed with you on any of your personal opinions. Your god is invisible. You can't even describe its nature. It is nothing more than a reflection of your ego. Christianity is an army of one where you create a god in your own image. It is nothing more than you trying to give yourself some crazy air of authority with your invisible pocket god. It is wholly evident in your words:

I am not going to suffer perdition. I am going to Heaven. You have no morals. You worship yourself. You are going to be tortured forever for disagreeing with me.

You are actually beginning to sicken me because you have trotted out every single tired line from the Christian play book. Yep, Bucko, only you have it right. Why? Because your god is modeled after you. No one else stands a chance to be more like you, and then, ergo, your self-made god, than you. Enjoy wallowing in your ignorance. It suits you.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#224484 Apr 13, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh.
I forgot that you're just a troll.
But you **are** a pedophile-- that fact has long since been established.

You also beat women whenever it suits you.

You are one sick Christofascist.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#224485 Apr 13, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Killing because of a disbelief is not the same as killing for a disbelief.
Agreed.

Throughout history, many-many people have been killed because they did **not** believe in the current religious bigotry.

But nobody kills in the name of not believing.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#224486 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.-.Martin Luther King, Jr.
Humor....

NEEEEEEE-YOW!

Right over your noggin.
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#224487 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>See, this is where Christians are really confused. See the Euthyphro Dilemma. The morality in the Bible, and the interpretation of that morality, has changed quite often over time. Morality by fiat, by Divine Dear Leader, is wholly subjective.
Divine Command theory claims that morality is meaningless unless it is derived from God yet fails to answer who made God moral and whether his moral commands could be considered objective rather than arbitrary. Put in the context of Divine Command Theory, the Euthyphro Dilemma results in two unpalatable conclusion. God is not the greatest, as he must call upon a standard of good greater than himself or God's commands are arbitrary, grounded on his whims, and thus could be commands that we ourselves find morally abhorrent. The Bible is a veritable primer on slavery, and no amount of apologetics can obviate that fact. Our secular society has the moral high ground in that we have made slavery of any type illegal.
The first conclusion results in the view that God cannot change what is right and wrong. Killing and stealing are inherently bad, so God, being inherently good, cannot command them. Yet if right and wrong are inherent to the action, regardless of God's decree, then God has nothing to do with the process. God doesn't set moral standards; he follows them, and is therefore only indirectly related to moral commands.
The second conclusion shows that God is free to decide what is good, and it is good by virtue of his decree. If this is the case, then God has no higher standard to answer to, and therefore his will may be seen as genuinely arbitrary. Although God once decreed that murder and theft are morally wrong, he might have declared the opposite just as easily, so then murder and theft would be right.
You haven't thought this through. You need to, but, please don't if you fear losing your faith.
The Bible has this explained ..in one sentence..." God can not act against His own nature ." ...Sorry , that you wasted so much time on this diatribe ...

ah , slavery ...was actually a blessing , when two inimical tribes go to war . What should be done with the losers ..?

Slavery was back then , what burning fossil fuels or consuming animal flesh is now ...a necessary evil ...( the Bible never exhorts anyone to go make slaves )
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#224488 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>Every theist agrees? You can barely get two Christians to agree on even basic theology.
..God has no gender , every Christian agrees ( save the Mormons )..but, even the Mormons themselves debate whether or not they are Christians ..

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#224489 Apr 13, 2014
O G Kush wrote:
<quoted text>
I must say I rather like the new pope.
Of course I think he's full of shit but he seems like a decent man.
A far cry from the albatrosses currently in the Vatican.
If he does a right thing and turns every pedophile priest over to the police and they are sent immediately to prison he will win OG's approval.
This however is a fairytale and we all know that.
Organized religion is a professional business and should be taxed accordingly.
As you know good old Jimmy swaggert is on his way to the pearly gates even after two rounds with prostitutes in which he cried asking for forgiveness
He knows his god forgives this sordid behavior and his hypocritical stance insures he is a messenger for this God.
I have to agree-- in spite of my disdain for all things Catholic, I do like the new Pope-- he truly seems to give a crap about little people.

A welcome contrast to previous ones.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#224490 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>What idol am I worshipping. You are a Christian which is the ultimate worship of self over everything else.
Your Divine Dear Leader is an incompetent middle manager at best.
If I didn't want people to suffer perdition, I wouldn't have it, especially for something as innocuous as a thought crime. The entire system as described in your fantasy book is a major moral failure. Infinite torture for finite thought crime is highly immoral in the standards and laws of our modern world. The authors of the Booble were trying to consolidate power and money as repentance was tied directly to tithing and acquiescence to the Church.
The best way to be an atheist is to read the Booble. This is why many atheists have a better grasp on Scripture than the theists who only get regurgitated study on Wednesday and Sunday.
I agree with your observations, here.

Modern humanistic morality is superior in every way to that found in the ugly BuyBull.
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#224491 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>No, your myth wouldn't have perdition if it didn't want it.
I told you before to have a thought and then go with the opposite. I don't worship myself. I don't have anything before your god for your god is imaginary. Christianity is the ultimate worship of self. Ask yourself honestly, when was the last time your god disagreed with you on any of your personal opinions. Your god is invisible. You can't even describe its nature. It is nothing more than a reflection of your ego. Christianity is an army of one where you create a god in your own image. It is nothing more than you trying to give yourself some crazy air of authority with your invisible pocket god. It is wholly evident in your words:
I am not going to suffer perdition. I am going to Heaven. You have no morals. You worship yourself. You are going to be tortured forever for disagreeing with me.
You are actually beginning to sicken me because you have trotted out every single tired line from the Christian play book. Yep, Bucko, only you have it right. Why? Because your god is modeled after you. No one else stands a chance to be more like you, and then, ergo, your self-made god, than you. Enjoy wallowing in your ignorance. It suits you.
I have to remain faithful to the gospels as they were handed down ...Hell could be in my future too ..

You seem upset , because I can't agree with you ....Does someone need a widdle hug ..?
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#224492 Apr 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists, as a rule, aren't nihilists. You are promoting nihilism with your viewpoint. It really is alarmingly sad.
Ah , I can see where you got confused "mtimber" and "number four " we're basically xeroxed copies ..

I concur Nihilism is more of the domain of my other arch enemies .....The Mohammadans ..

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