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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#221321 Mar 25, 2014
There is a big difference between "Lifeforms themselves may subconsciously guide and alter themselves to survive" and "God did it".

ID is the latter.
Science the former.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#221322 Mar 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. I'm convinced men and women are different species ..
I'm convinced men and women are different sexes.

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#221323 Mar 25, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Why are you so deliberately blind to facts? Did they use too much electricity when they zapped you brain?
Stalin – opened 25000 churches
Stalin on Russian Channel 1 - Christ existed in the past
Journalist- It is interesting that from all the Kremlin residents, maybe, just Stalin believed in god
Stalins Daughter – When I said to my father “But Christ didn’t exist” Stalin replied “Oh No, Christ surely existed”
Many atheists think Christ existed.

Stalin was an atheist, he murdered and tortured for atheism, and he sought to produce an atheist Russia.

No honest person denies this.

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#221324 Mar 25, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
There is a big difference between "Lifeforms themselves may subconsciously guide and alter themselves to survive" and "God did it".
ID is the latter.
Science the former.
There is no such science saying life forms subconsciously guide their DNA.

You people get dumber all the time.

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#221325 Mar 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. science cannot confirm whether mutations are guided or unguided ..
.. it's not my goal to defend science or religion, but to point out that science cannot rule out a guided mechanism. Words like 'random' or 'accidental' may sway but they do not convince ..
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.. ID is not an alternative scientific explanation, it's a philosophy ..
Then you are confused. ID is a scientific hypothesis, and has nothing to do with philosophy.

Darwinism has much to do with philosophy.

Geneticist and Darwinist Richard Lewontin:

"Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism."

A prior commitment to materialism, which means the philosophy comes "prior to", or "before" the science.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#221326 Mar 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't believe in unanswered prayers. I believe that God answers them all, even if the answer is no.
If love has a demonstrable, empirical effect then why hasn't any scientific evidence for said effect been discovered?
That is pure circular reasoning. All results are proof of the hypothesis. Then all hypothesis are true.

You keep referring to emotions as if they are an intangible thing that can't be measured or studied. It's as if you've never heard that an entire field of study called psychology exists.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#221327 Mar 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because people are different.
When a man can date, marry and have sex with nothing but women for thirty years then all of a sudden find Mr Right, he's effectively turned gay, or at least bi.
Another possibility is that the person in your example always had a latent same-sex attraction that might have been suppressed/denied or just not acted upon.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#221328 Mar 25, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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It already has. Numerous times.
Guess what the definition of insanity is...
Smirk.
Well, one definition might include the daily compulsion to tell gay people how wrong their sex lives are when you don't even claim to belong to that group. What's your interest (not to say obsession) in that about, anyway?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#221329 Mar 25, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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The context was a human constrained by time understanding a God who is not.
Shifting the subject to your angry twist of Christianity is hardly an honest reply. The fact that it was necessary for you to do so answers my question.
You didn't understand what I wrote, did you?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#221330 Mar 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Yes, I'm afraid that's exactly what it means.
Traversing infinite time is impossible, so if time were infinite, the present time could not occur.
Couldn't that apply to an infinite God too? Seems your hypothesis has holes in it.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#221331 Mar 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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There is no such science saying life forms subconsciously guide their DNA.
You people get dumber all the time.
Yes there is.

It is called the Gaia hypothesis and views the entire planet as a living organism with its own consciousness.

Perhaps once you get out of the Bronze Age reading section of the prison library you might find a book on the subject.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#221332 Mar 25, 2014
Phantom2010 wrote:
<quoted text> The Son of God never told anyone to convince anyone of anything. All he said was to share.
To convince and to share are not the same thing.
Regardless, people don't spontaneously believe in the Judeo-Christian God. Don't you think that is a clue?

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#221333 Mar 25, 2014
ROCCO wrote:
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Excellent summarization of yourself, Repugnant Riverside Redneck.
But it's highly doubtful you will recognize it.
Thanks, Catcher.

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#221334 Mar 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. I'm convinced men and women are different species ..
That it cuz women is dumb

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#221335 Mar 25, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Bull...effing...sh*t
This is the lies the religious tell themselves to justify their bigotry.
Roger Waters, the author of Pink Floyd's "another brick in the wall" explained quite well what he meant by it.

It was religious indoctrination he was railing against.

“Ditat Deus”

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#221336 Mar 25, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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That is pure circular reasoning. All results are proof of the hypothesis. Then all hypothesis are true.
You keep referring to emotions as if they are an intangible thing that can't be measured or studied. It's as if you've never heard that an entire field of study called psychology exists.
What was circular about it?

Emotions cannot be measured and are purely subjective, they are outside of science in they they cannot be reproduced and science can't objectively view them.

Who told you that psychology is the study of emotions?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#221337 Mar 25, 2014
Wow Buck gets confused!
Buck Crick wrote:
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Many atheists think Christ existed.
Yes, he was apparently a leader of a group called the Fourth Philosophy and may have been a terrorist for all we can be sure now. The historical character has nothing to do with the mythical one based on him. Plainly nobody was born of a virgin, walked on water and arose from the dead.
Buck Crick wrote:
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Stalin was an atheist, he murdered and tortured for atheism,
No honest person could believe that. He wasn't driven by atheism. He was driven by a political ideology.
Buck Crick wrote:
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and he sought to produce an atheist Russia.
..blabber. blabber....
He couldn't use the established church to control people or gain useful support from it the way Hitler and other political leaders did/do. The Church was too inseparable from the old regime.

Quote, "The Tsar was the head of the Church. Accordingly, the Church reinforced his authority. Among the huge peasant population, the Church was very influential. Official Church doctrine stated that the Tsar was appointed by God, and that any challenge to the Tsar - the 'Little Father'- was an insult to God..."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/higher/history/...

Try and get one thing correct occasionally, you superstitious creationism-defending dimwit. You're too stupid to lie - lying usually implies deliberate deceit. You have no sound comprehension of anything.

Religion = superstition

“Ditat Deus”

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#221338 Mar 25, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Yes there is.
It is called the Gaia hypothesis and views the entire planet as a living organism with its own consciousness.
Perhaps once you get out of the Bronze Age reading section of the prison library you might find a book on the subject.
Gaia? Like from Final Fantasy?!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#221339 Mar 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You ignored my question.
Isn't that annoying?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

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San Francisco

#221340 Mar 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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You are raving Moron.
But don't let it spoil your day!
You seem to manage OK.

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