Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

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#220840 Mar 22, 2014
tricki wrote:
<quoted text>question your faith, honey. that gawd of yours is confused
Not nearly as confused as you.

“LOL Really?”

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#220841 Mar 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know what it refers to?
Smile.
Do you?

Grin.

“I see quantum effects”

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#220842 Mar 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>Please don't make things up about what I've said.

I've never 'claimed to be a Christian'. I have claimed to be a redeemed cynic who remains barbarian. How would you know a Christian anyway, you can't even distinguish between success in love or work.

Now, I posted an article about the Big Bang indicating the existence of God. All you have been able to do is mount (poorly so) a bigoted, hateful troll attack against me along with a vain attempt to change the subject.

Do you understand that rather than putting my faith on the line, that article cuts your claim of 'rational atheist' off at the knees and confirms your status as a 'rational atheist' oxymoron???

SMirk.
That article was an act of desperation.

Nothing more.

Belch.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#220843 Mar 22, 2014
Here is a comic briefly describing the recent discovery about inflation in the early universe...

http://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com...

And here is a brief cartoon explaining what the data was and how it relates to inflation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

And lastly an interview on PBS News of physicist Sean Carroll discussing inflation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#220845 Mar 22, 2014
Buck and the Discovery Institute maintain that Intelligent Design is secular science. Yesterday, Casey Luskin, spokesperson for the Discovery Institute, wrote an opinion piece in which he says criticism of ID in school classrooms must be balanced with "traditional religion".

biologist Jerry Coyne makes a good point...

Quote

What’s especially telling about Luskin’s letter is his tacit admission that ID, if it’s to be criticized in any class, must be balanced with “traditional religion”. If ID isn’t religious, and is, as the Discovery Institute claims, purely science, and if its scientific conclusions point to the existence of a designer with intelligence, why on Earth would that have anything to do with “traditional religion”? I believe Michael Behe said that the designer could have been a space alien. Worship of aliens is not “traditional religion.”

End quote

--Why Evolution is True Blog

Yes, why would criticism of a secular scientific theory have to be balanced by traditional religion? Would criticism of the theory of the luminiferous ether have to be balanced by religion? Would the phlogiston theory of fire?

The fact that Luskin thinks dissing ID must be balanced by religion...well...says it all. Luskin really thinks ID is religion. He just isn't honest enough to say so in public.

You can read Dr. Coyne's post, along with Luskin's entire opinion piece, here...

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/...
IPSEC

Oglesby, TX

#220846 Mar 22, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I keep requesting that you post the proof.
What's the matter troll?
Smirk.
Just a Bigelow, everywhere you go, people know the part you're playing.
IPSEC

Oglesby, TX

#220847 Mar 22, 2014
tricki wrote:
<quoted text>
always impresses me how little atheists know compared to what is true
He's not an atheist. Boy, the Berks County educational system has really failed you.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#220848 Mar 22, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on, man, be honest, you may not agree with the way Phelps and his people go about promoting their "beliefs."
But you certainly share in many of them.
You've made that amply clear over time.
Dodging and dancing and changing the subject will get you nowhere, Redneck.
You are Phelpsian in many, many respects.
M'kay, punkin.
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#220849 Mar 22, 2014
and i won't worry bout a thing
cause we got it made
here on the inside,
outside so far away

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#220850 Mar 22, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
More excuses.
If I roll a die, I KNOW that it will roll a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6. That is not omniscience. Neither is what you describe. Knowing all the possibilities is not the same as know what will happen.


God has already seen you roll that die and He's seen every possible outcome. That is omniscience.
Besides, the Bible never mentions omniscience as a trait of this God of yours.{SNIP}
Psalm 147:5

Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure.

1 John 3:20

For whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

Psalm 147:5

Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#220851 Mar 22, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm skeptical of science.
For example, when faster than light neutrinos were reported, I was skeptical of that. Turned out to be justified skepticism. I'm skeptical of the new finding about detecting the signature of gravity waves from the Big Bang, as are all of the scientists who will be attempting to verify the findings. I'm skeptical of the accuracy of the machine I use and I'm skeptical of the accuracy of the measuring instruments that I use to verify the accuracy of the machines I use.
I could go on, but you are a waste of time, so that will have to do.
Question everything.
I question your honesty.
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#220852 Mar 22, 2014
how do atheists explain the universe?

they ask why is it necessary to explain the universe

“I see quantum effects”

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#220853 Mar 22, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I question your honesty.
Good.

I don't question yours.

I know you're a liar.

“I see quantum effects”

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#220854 Mar 22, 2014
tricki wrote:
how do atheists explain the universe?
they ask why is it necessary to explain the universe
Atheists have no fear of saying' "I don't know."

We'd rather admit that than make shit up.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#220855 Mar 22, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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M'kay, punkin.
Excellent response.

You have acquired a new name, Redneck.

You will now be sometimes referred to as PhelpsLite.

Enjoy.

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#220856 Mar 22, 2014
River Tam wrote:
Do you?
Grin.
I'm a little confused.

Something's different.

Hmmmmm.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

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#220857 Mar 22, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
God has already seen you roll that die and He's seen every possible outcome.
So can I. It will be a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
That is omniscience.
No it isn't. Unless I am omniscient as well, and I certainly am not claiming to be omniscient.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure.
1 John 3:20
For whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.
Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord, and abundant in power; his understanding is beyond measure.
Being a bit redundant and repetitive there?

If your God is all knowing, why couldn't he find Adam and Eve in the Garden?

If your God is all powerful, how did the serpent thwart the will of God?
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#220858 Mar 22, 2014
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists have no fear of saying' "I don't know."
We'd rather admit that than make shit up.
Same with the godly.

But you atheists said, why is it required to know, so don't lie.
tricki

Birdsboro, PA

#220859 Mar 22, 2014
He is all powerful.

So, what's your best guess.

Then I'll show the answer!
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
So can I. It will be a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6.
<quoted text>
No it isn't. Unless I am omniscient as well, and I certainly am not claiming to be omniscient.
<quoted text>
Being a bit redundant and repetitive there?
If your God is all knowing, why couldn't he find Adam and Eve in the Garden?
If your God is all powerful, how did the serpent thwart the will of God?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#220860 Mar 22, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:

So can I. It will be a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6.
No. You can assume every outcome, God already knows it.
No it isn't. Unless I am omniscient as well, and I certainly am not claiming to be omniscient.


Knowing every possible outcome is omniscience.

You roll that die, you know it could be one of did numbers, but you don't know which one it will be. God does.
Being a bit redundant and repetitive there?
If your God is all knowing, why couldn't he find Adam and Eve in the Garden?
If your God is all powerful, how did the serpent thwart the will of God?
Adam and Eve were by no means preprogrammed to please God, none of us are. That's our free will.

God knew where they were, just as you know your child ate the cookies but you still ask him "Did you eat those cookies"? You want him to be honest, as God did with Adam & Eve.

Satan didn't thwart anything. The fact that he was there shows that was God's will, just as it is your will to see how your child will respond to situations, knowing that he might will fail, giving him the choice of right and wrong, exercising his free will and teaching him to take responsibility for his actions.

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