Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215699 Feb 28, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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Your term "defective mating behavior" is a clever way of saying people in a SS relationship are defective.
I said no such thing. I said homosexuality is a mating behavior birth defect.

Do you know what mating behavior is? Or the evolutionary purpose???

Do some research and get back.

Smile snort.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#215700 Feb 28, 2014
ROCCO wrote:
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And a married man can also now say "meet my husband" or "today's our wedding anniversary" or "I'm his husband", as can a married woman now say "meet my wife" or "today's our wedding anniversary or "I'm her wife".
But the words don't tell you "everything", do they?
No they don't. You need to include 'oxymoron' with your example.

Smile.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#215701 Feb 28, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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It funny that heterosexuals also engage in a lot of defective mating behaviors including oral and anal sex, sex with toys ms, sm. you name it heteros have done it.
You left out The Flying Dutchman and the Twisted Doggy.

Buck Crick

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#215702 Feb 28, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
i came over here to see if there are any hot babes, but all i see are the usual suspects....:-(
Stand on a corner in south Birmingham with a $20 hanging out of your shirt pocket.

Always worked for me.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#215704 Feb 28, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yeppers. His Ph.D. is in bible studies. Sorry, but if the bible is fiction, and I'm pretty sure it is, that's like a Ph.D.in Pokeman or Harry Potter.
Red Herring fallacy. The Bible is likely fiction in part, but proven non-fiction in part.

Also, all fiction is not of equal scholarly value.

Or, a comic book is the same as "Moby Dick" - Fallacy of Transfer.

You turned a double-play, logical fallacy-wise.
ChristINSANITY is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#215705 Feb 28, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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"Irish Inquiry Hears How Children Were Systematically Beaten and Abused in Catholic Home for Children"
Among the abuses...
"Humiliating children for bed wetting, forcing them to stand with the sheets on their heads and beating them as punishment.
Forced farm labouring or working in the laundry instead of going to school.
Removal of Christmas presents and other personal items.
Calling children by numbers rather than names.
Leaving youngsters hungry through inadequate food or alternately force feeding.
Some people who contacted the inquiry claimed when they were ill they were forced to eat their own vomit.
Inadequate staffing and supervision and lack of medical attention."
One man testified...
“I remember, when I was about five years old, being constantly beaten by one particular nun, to get me to stop writing with my left hand.”
For more...
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-2...
"Michael McMoran said one nun targeted him for 10 years, hitting him about the head with a brush, mop or tree branch."
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/2...
"A former resident of a children's care home in Derry, Northern Ireland, was told he was evil and had been born of a satanic relationship, the largest UK inquiry into institutional child abuse has heard.
The witness said a priest labelled him the product of such a union because his mother was unmarried."
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-...
"I never heard children cry like I have in that place, it was one of despair and that still haunts me a little bit, it was a scream of despair."
So you think having hospitals excuses this behavior?
Sometimes what goes around comes around
I've heard of an abused kid when grown up went back to visit the priest and carved his face up like a JackO lantern..
for some reason that didn't make news at all..

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#215706 Feb 28, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yeppers. His Ph.D. is in bible studies. Sorry, but if the bible is fiction, and I'm pretty sure it is, that's like a Ph.D.in Pokeman or Harry Potter.
This is intellectual heresy, and I won't let it pass.

Ehrman's degrees are not biblical. They are degrees related to the history of the Bible, it's authorship, it's origins; the history of early christianity. These fields of study are not fiction.

Ehrman has learned Latin, Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic language in order to understand the translational effects on writings. He has written 29 books, 5 of which made the NY Times best-seller list.

Unlike hacks like Sam Harris, the man knows of what he speaks.

Buck Crick

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#215707 Feb 28, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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I did not vote for Arnold.
I did vote for my friend Jerry Brown, and I'll vote for him again in November, and he will be reelected.
Brown is a good guy and an effective Governor.
Brown is your friend?

Do you call him "Moonbeam"?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#215708 Feb 28, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
John really did not directly address any of the other Gospels. They wrote about the same events with different styles and perspectives.
How many gods are you worshiping? Or is it just men?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#215709 Feb 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You no likey being compared to Stalin or Mao?
Feel free to do so. I know how to answer.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#215710 Feb 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Hmmm
John 10:30
"I and the Father are one.”
Game.
Set.
Match.
Not quite.

Jesus and the Father are one. You and I and the Father are one.

"Is it not written in your law,'I have said you are gods' "

-Jesus of Nazareth

Your true self is not physical. It is spirit. It is one with the Father.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#215711 Feb 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You cannot put Stalinism and Maoism back into their "proper" category along with Islam and Christianity because they are opposite categories.
They are all essentially the same thing in a slightly different wrapper. The world has suffered wherever Stalinism, Christianity, Maoism or Islam have called the shots, and in precisely the same way.

Please feel free to bring up Stalinism and Moaism all you like, and I will continue to point out how authoritarian ideologies of violence and despair are all the same. Only humanism offers an alternative worth working for.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#215712 Feb 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*might be* reelected.
What makes you think he's a good guy or an effective governor?
Jerry Brown WILL be reelected.

You heard it from Catcher.

As for your question, sorry but I will not engage in a political discussion with you.

I will not be dragged down.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#215713 Feb 28, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Atheism isn't something you can lean to. You accept a god claim you don't. If he believes in gods of any type, he's not an atheist. I suspect that he is a theist, but uses words like agnostic because he doesn't accept parts of the bible, or doesn't accept the Christian god.
Who knows? All I can tell you is that he doesn't pass the stink test for dispassionate objectivity in scholarship. Even if he is sincere, he's not credible.
These statements are bereft of logic. Since they were attained by exclusion of logic, it would have no effect to apply logic to them.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#215714 Feb 28, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I invite any Christian that thinks otherwise to show the rest of us where the Christian church has ever refused to torture and/or kill in times and places when it could. Are any of you Christians aware of such a time and place where the Christian church had the power to do those things, but tool a moral stand and said, "No!" to genocide when it wasn't benefiting by doing so? There must be a few moral successes among the myriad failures.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Nothing anyone could tell you would change your one track mind.
Bellying up? Good choice.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I could tell you how the Catholic Church spent hundreds of years dedicating people and resources to the then new inception of the hospital. Your profession exists because the Catholic Church invented it.
Blah blah blah. Still bellying up? I invite any Christian to show the rest of us where the Christian church has ever refused to torture and/or kill in times and places when it could
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Christians started the education system. Catholics invented the first modem universities.
Bore no more. I invite any Christian to show the rest of us where the Christian church has ever refused to torture and/or kill in times and places when it could
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Christians pioneered modern Social Work.
You're still evading the question. I invite any Christian to show the rest of us where the Christian church has ever refused to torture and/or kill in times and places when it could
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Ever hear of the Red Cross? Founded by a Catholic priest. The Bible has been called "the most influential book in the world", "the most important book in English religion and culture", and "the most celebrated book in the English-speaking world".
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Hear of Magna Carta? Christians did that.
LOL.

Still evading, I see. I invite any Christian to show the rest of us where the Christian church has ever refused to torture and/or kill in times and places when it could
RiversideRedneck wrote:
What about Martin Luther King? Christian.
What about Martin Luther? Christian. I invite any Christian to show the rest of us where the Christian church has ever refused to torture and/or kill in times and places when it could

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#215715 Feb 28, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I see. "Most atheists are humanists" except for atheists like Stalin and Mao.
Huh.
You cannot put Stalinism and Maoism back into their "proper" category along with Islam and Christianity because they are opposite categories.
It's the same old story. If Christians act poorly, it's because they are Christians. If atheists or humanists act poorly, it's not because they are atheists or humanists.

It's probably because they knew Christians.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#215716 Feb 28, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Brown is your friend?
Do you call him "Moonbeam"?
Not a close friend at all, but I have socialized with Jerry Brown at several functions.

I have called him Jerry when in a group and others called him that. One on one, I call him Governor and he calls me by my first name.

Brown is one hell of a nice guy, by the way. And his wife wears the pants in many respects.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#215717 Feb 28, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
"Irish Inquiry Hears How Children Were Systematically Beaten and Abused in Catholic Home for Children"
Among the abuses...
"Humiliating children for bed wetting, forcing them to stand with the sheets on their heads and beating them as punishment.
Forced farm labouring or working in the laundry instead of going to school.
Removal of Christmas presents and other personal items.
Calling children by numbers rather than names.
Leaving youngsters hungry through inadequate food or alternately force feeding.
Some people who contacted the inquiry claimed when they were ill they were forced to eat their own vomit.
Inadequate staffing and supervision and lack of medical attention."
One man testified...
“I remember, when I was about five years old, being constantly beaten by one particular nun, to get me to stop writing with my left hand.”
For more...
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-2...
"Michael McMoran said one nun targeted him for 10 years, hitting him about the head with a brush, mop or tree branch."
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/2...
"A former resident of a children's care home in Derry, Northern Ireland, was told he was evil and had been born of a satanic relationship, the largest UK inquiry into institutional child abuse has heard.
The witness said a priest labelled him the product of such a union because his mother was unmarried."
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-...
"I never heard children cry like I have in that place, it was one of despair and that still haunts me a little bit, it was a scream of despair."
So you think having hospitals excuses this behavior?
Good post.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#215718 Feb 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Did all the Christian families kill their foster kids?Snicker.
Did you mean literally kill them or just their minds and spirits?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#215719 Feb 28, 2014
KiMare wrote:
evolutionary purpose??? Do some research and get back. Smile snort.
Evolutionary purpose? FAIL.

You have nothing to offer on the subject.

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