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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#214897 Feb 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. if this bill becomes law, it will be state-sanctioned discrimination ..
.. the religious right does not understand the implications of such a law ..
.. you cannot have freedom of religion with complete equality. Read that again then ask yourself, "Why?" ..
Not so fast:

PHOENIX (The Borowitz Report)—The state of Arizona found itself in the middle of a conundrum today as it awoke to the awkward realization that gay people have money and buy stuff.

Just days after the Arizona legislature passed a law that would enable businesses to discriminate against gays, it emerged that gays spend billions of dollars in Arizona each year—an unexpected development that seemed to take many legislators by surprise.

Carol Foyler, a Tea Party Republican who supported the anti-gay law, said that the startling bombshell that gays play a role in the state’s economy put her and her fellow lawmakers “in a tight spot.”

“Quite frankly, we were blindsided by this,” she said.“We had no idea that gays had money and bought things just like regular people do.”

Acknowledging that her vote for the anti-gay law might have been calamitous for the state’s economy, Ms. Foyler placed the blame for it squarely on the shoulders of one group: the gays themselves.

“How was I supposed to know what gay people do with their money, etc., when I don’t personally know any gay people?” she asked.“I’m sorry, but it was up to the gays to tell us.”

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#214898 Feb 25, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
What does that mean? What do you say I claimed? It certainly wasn't for "a culture devoid of religion," which I consider unnecessary and an unattainable goal.
<quoted text>
You seem insane to me.
I asked you this:
"You're still evading my question: What do you think faith and religion have done for you with regard to your intellect, character and personality? Has it made you a better person in any of those areas? Do you care?
After a few weeks of evasions, I answered for you:
"Your mind is mush, you have no personality, you have the disposition of a snapping turtle, and you are ill-manned. That's what a lifetime of faith and religion have done for you."
You are lying. You extolled a culture with religion removed. Now you are cornered because I called you on it.

The hilarious thing is, there are plenty of examples where the attempt was made. Just none you would want to use.

We both express what our belief systems create every time we speak or act.

This exchange is an example of which belief system is honest and deals realistically with reality. Our behavior Sunday revealed how the rubber meets the road.

Smile.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#214899 Feb 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Now that hurts.
It could be serious.

Better sign up for Obamacare.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#214900 Feb 25, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
That's quotable. I've saved it.
Here are some other recent additions to my quote collection for those interested in such things:
“What would you do if there were no God? Would you commit robbery, rape, and murder, or would you continue being a good and moral person? Either way the question is a debate stopper. If the answer is that you would soon turn to robbery, rape, or murder, then this is a moral indictment of your character, indicating you are not to be trusted because if, for any reason, you were to turn away from your belief in God, your true immoral nature would emerge … If the answer is that you would continue being good and moral, then apparently you can be good without God.”- Michael Shermer
“It makes no difference that your opinion comes from the Bible. The choice to believe it, to accept it, and to spread it is purely all yours and completely subjective.”– anon
“We will continue to speak out, becoming more publicly and more vehemently opposed to this ridiculous delusion that serves only to erode rational thought, personal responsibility and the peace and security of all citizens.”– anon
“Any animal whatever, endowed with well-marked social instincts, would inevitably acquire a moral sense or conscience as soon as its intellectual powers had become as well-developed, or anything like as well-developed as in man.”- Charles Darwin
“Supporting the notion that non-believers go to hell is clearly intolerant of those that do not share your beliefs ... Don't be intolerant toward others, pretend you're tolerant, and get offended when others don't respect your beliefs. Go ahead and support the notion that people who disagree will end up in the lake of fire - but don't be taken back when they mock you, and don't expect anything different in return. Reap what you sow”– Matthew Metzger
“Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights.”- Thomas Jefferson
“How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded,“This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant?” Instead they say,“No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way.” A religion, old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the Universe as revealed by modern science might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths.”- Carl Sagan
“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.”- Robert A. Heinlein
“Imagine the people who … are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly.”- Isaac Asimov
“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.”- Robert A. Heinlein

Quite true. And the fact so many Christians want to impose their faith upon others through the government is a strong indication that the claim the Bible is the source of democracy is patently false.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#214901 Feb 25, 2014
OG Kush wrote:
Speaking of quotable quotes...
Scriptures: the sacred books of our holy religion, as distinguished from the false and profane writings on which all other faiths are based.~Ambrose Bierce
No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means.~George Bernard Shaw
“The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn’t mean that God doesn’t love heterosexuals. It’s just that they need more supervision.”~ Lynn Lavner
“More people have been slaughtered in the name of religion than for any other single reason. That, my friends, that is true perversion.”~ Harvey Milk
"Why would God give every man two heads, but only enough blood supply to use one at a time?" ~ Robin Williams on Intelligent Design
"It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."

--Samuel Clemens (aka Mark Twain)

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#214902 Feb 25, 2014
HipGnosis wrote:
<quoted text>I hate to be a doom-sayer, but I don't suspect it will endure as is. Interestingly enough, one of the common themes in the constitutional and ratification debates was that democracy with universal suffrage was impossible on such a large scale (and at that time they hardly envisioned a nation spanning the continent). I suspect those folks were prescient.
But I don't dwell on it. Que sera, sera, sang the pretty lady.
The sad thing in the HC debate is that a universal system would save everyone money. Witness them whining now about increased premiums. The rise in taxes to pay for universal HC would be far below what we're paying. But we're so hung up in an ideologically driven mindset that says "distrust gov't", we'd rather pay through the nose than do something that smells "socialist!" It's amazing - private insurance is nothing but a "socialist" concept with profit motive attached. We're satisfied with that - paying for bankrupting total costs, and if we have the audacity to actually get seriously ill, being rejected by a faceless bean-counter is Capitalism, Baby! Suck it, Commies! >coff coff<
Bloom County, IMHO, was a great cartoon. Here is an early cartoon on the subject of liberals...

http://www.caracarn.com/bc/000421.gif

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214903 Feb 25, 2014
cup of coffee wrote:
<quoted text>
That's also due to a higher number of atheists in each state of high crime rates. Now understand, as soon as the cheap cowards kill someone, they then go claiming they are Christian so their jail /prison term is reduced. The stats of Christians in prisons are skewed way, way too high.
99% go in due to being atheists, then they lose their brash arrogance once arrested. It's the typical coward in an atheist. It's the "Bob" effect. To lie.
So basically, you are saying that our Judicial system is highly skewed?

And that our Judges are so besotted with religion, that any false claim of being religious automagically makes these **religious**(and obviously **stupid**) Judges go easy on them?

Wow.

You are even dumber than I thought-- and I really thought you were dumber than a box of rocks...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214904 Feb 25, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah? Well your mother has a mouth in the back of her neck and she chews like this...(wait4it)
Now that was funny chit there!
Yes you are my 8!tch...
Who Would Jesus Asfuck, expert?

Hmmm?

I bet you know-- and I bet you drool every time you fantasize about your Jewsus giving it to you.

LMAO!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214905 Feb 25, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>
Awe, you got butt hurt?
Nope.

I just laugh and laugh at you-- you are doing so much more than I could **ever** do, to drive people away from religion.

THANKS!

You are a credit to your hatecult!

Keep up the evil -- erm -- "good" work.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#214906 Feb 25, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. How many syllables in Cthulhu?
The group of eight of us that went to dinner recently were instructed to write a Valentine's Day themed poem. Here was mine, which I had actually written a few years earlier, but thought was perfect for the occasion:
With stuffing in hand,
Arm elbow deep in turkey,
Her memory haunts.
This is one that I wrote a few years back...

Axioms imply
Logic flows like watered silk
An abstract beauty

As for the number of syllables in Cthulhu...I usually hear it pronounced Cu-thool-hoo, so three. At least, that is what I use.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214907 Feb 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Of all the religions in Denmark, the most prominent is Christianity in the form of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Denmark, the state religion.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_De...
Christianity is the predominant religion of Switzerland (72.1% of total resident population). 20.1% of the total population are irreligious.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sw...
As of 2012, about 67.5%[1] of Swedish citizens are members of the Church of Sweden
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Sw...
Dumb ass.
Yet? In those same countries-- church attendence is so low, that they have had to close the doors on many, very old buildings.

It appears that the population is "christian" IN NAME ONLY-- and do not meet your criteria of Genuine Christholes™.

This is hardly surprising -- christianity is on a sharp decline, world-wide.

Did your Jesus tell you to call me a "dumb ass"?

Hmmm?

I bet your Asfucking Jesus told you to, didn't he?

LMAO!

Give my regards to your AsfuckingJesus, the next time you are taking one for the team.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214908 Feb 25, 2014
cup of coffee wrote:
<quoted text>
What a load of crap.
Yes-- every thing you say is a load of crap.

Your AsfuckingJesus would be **so* proud of you!

give him my regards, the next time you take one for the team!

LMAO!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214909 Feb 25, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>
Beeatch! Go cook me a chicken pot pie!
No.

Abuser.

Give your AsfuckingJesus my regards, though-- did your Jesus bother to use lube?

No?

That figures.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#214910 Feb 25, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. How many syllables in Cthulhu?
The group of eight of us that went to dinner recently were instructed to write a Valentine's Day themed poem. Here was mine, which I had actually written a few years earlier, but thought was perfect for the occasion:
With stuffing in hand,
Arm elbow deep in turkey,
Her memory haunts.
I have heard haiku defined as 3 lines with a total of 17 syllables. I prefer the stricter definition of 5-7-5 syllables. It looks like you do as well.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#214911 Feb 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Satan likes it that you think it's silly.
Just sayin....
<quoted text>
.. hi ya Chris ..
.. humans are akin to three-headed dragons with the middle head having to make the ultimate decisions ..
.. the left head (Satan if you will) says, "Go ahead, it will be fun" ..
.. the right head (Higher Self if you will) says, " That's wrong, don't do it" ..
.. and, there you sit, caught in the middle of the drama, both dragon heads yowling instructions ..
.. what to do, what to do ??..
.. does this daily drama have anything to do with belief or unbelief? Or, is it simply a manifestation of the human condition ??..
.. anyway, when it comes to sex, my left head always wins. Can I blame it on Satan ??..
Nah , it don't matter how many times he knocks on your door...you wont let him in.:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214912 Feb 25, 2014
cup of coffee wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet it hounds you day and night with fear and uncertainty. You know you are a lying bastard.
Your are really showing a sickness. I think you need to go to the doctor and be checked for atheism. Even your blood tests will show you are a psychotic lying topix moderator.
Oh, Siro/Rio/etc/etc....

Your hate has revealed you for who you are-- and I'm so going to get this sock banned too.

Enjoy it while you are able-- you'll be gone, soon enough.

LMAO!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214913 Feb 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hispanics commit three times the crimes than whites.
Blacks commit 14 times times the crimes than whites.
Your color is irrelevant if you did the crime.
Based on?

Or are you pulling this out of your oversized azzhole?

Do you leak back there, after the AsfuckingJesus has had his way with you?

Sad.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#214914 Feb 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Louisiana does not have the highest murder rate by firearm, California does.
In 2011, LA had 402 murders by firearm, CA had 1,220.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in...
You don't know that actual gun ownership rates. People who have illegal guns don't register them...
Incorrect. You are conflating "rate" with "total". California, with its huge population, would be expected to have a high total number of murders by firearm.

However, "rate" is calculated by "total divided by population". This puts Louisiana, with its much smaller population, as having a higher murder RATE than California.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#214915 Feb 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. to dismiss the historical man known as Jesus, you must ignore all gospels including Gnostic writings dismissed by Constantine ..
.. why would so many people write of such a person if he was not real? That simply doesn't make sense to me ..
.. the historical Jesus was most likely a rebel, a mystical rabbi who angered both Jews and Romans ..
Indeed-- I do dismiss all ***religious** so-called "documents".

For the simple reason that they each have an agenda-- and accurate history didn't make the list.

Just as I would dismiss all **religious** so-called "documents" about Zeus, or Thor or Imhotep.

But it's much worse than you portray: there is not a single document written during Jesus' alleged life-- not even a **religious** one!

The various "gospels" we have-- including the ones not canon, are all written several generations after the alleged events.

That fact is the most damning of all-- there never was a historical Jesus.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#214916 Feb 25, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
Yes, but was it a "good touch" or a "bad touch"?
<quoted text>
You lie.
You're exposing yourself as a liar, Catch.
Many people reading this know that I've said God touched me on the head.
(here comes the perverted, sexually depraved and deprived Topix Atheist! comment of "which head?")
But which head?

Or were you touched IN the head?

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