Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#212988 Feb 17, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Good choice. Ingersoll is another hero - another firebrand for reason over faith;
MINISTERS WONDER HOW I CAN BE WICKED ENOUGH TO ATTACK THE BIBLE.
Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)
"I will tell them:
"This book, the Bible, has persecuted, even unto death, the wisest and the best. This book stayed and stopped the onward movement of the human race. This book poisoned the fountains of learning and misdirected the energies of man.
"This book is the enemy of freedom, the support of slavery. This book sowed the seeds of hatred in families and nations, fed the flames of war, and impoverished the world.
"This book is the breastwork of kings and tyrants -- the enslaver of women and children. This book has corrupted parliaments and courts. This book has made colleges and universities the teachers of error and the haters of science.
"This book has filled Christendom with hateful, cruel, ignorant and warring sects. This book taught men to kill their fellows for religion's sake.
"This book funded the Inquisition, invented the instruments of torture, built the dungeons in which the good and loving languished, forged the chains that rusted in their flesh, erected the scaffolds whereon they died. This book piled fagots about the feet of the just. This book drove reason from the minds of millions and filled the asylums with the insane.
"This book has caused fathers and mothers to shed the blood of their babes. This book was the auction block on which the slave-mother stood when she was sold from her child. This book filled the sails of the slave-trader and made merchandise of human flesh.
"This book lighted the fires that burned "witches" and "wizards."
"This book filled the darkness with ghouls and ghosts, and the bodies of men and women with devils. This book polluted the souls of men with the infamous dogma of eternal pain. This book made credulity the greatest of virtues, and investigation the greatest of crimes.
"This book filled nations with hermits, monks and nuns -- with the pious and the useless. This book placed the ignorant and unclean saint above the philosopher and philanthropist.
"This book taught man to despise the joys of this life, that he might be happy in another -- to waste this world for the sake of the next.
"I attack this book because it is the enemy of human liberty -- the greatest obstruction across the highway of human progress.
"Let me ask the ministers one question: How can you be wicked enough to defend this book?"
========
In the firebrand arena, besides Ingersoll, who was over a century ahead of the others, I also commend Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, Bill Maher, Pat Condell, David Silverman, and Matt Dillahunty. They have all done great things.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... (a little from Silverman and Condell)
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR... (from Dillahunty)
Love Condell.

Pithy and sharp as a dagger.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#212989 Feb 17, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>That would be impossible since cats are very curious creatures, always exploring. Cats NEVER miss the opportunity to discover for themselves, whatever needs discovering. They never sit and accept anything without exploration. I guess you could say cats are the ultimate skeptics.
They certainly are.

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#212990 Feb 17, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. It's great to have you all back. It got so slow here that I was forced to deal with a Muslim (MUQ, if you know him) on another thread.
I was away, in London.

You know, where they have stupid old stuff, unlike Riverside.

While there, I got to thinking that I'm certain I have entered more churches and cathedrals than any of the Christians here.
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#212991 Feb 17, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
Two lesbians in the sack.
http://www.123rf.com/photo_8751057_two-women-...
Wow!

Looks like you just gave this thread's Christian heterosexual males on this thread something to fantasize about - married, or not!

LOL

Roc
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#212992 Feb 17, 2014
...edit out the redundancy "on this thread".

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#212993 Feb 17, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
In 2009 there were 158 million Catholics in Africa, it is estimated that by 2025 1/6th of ALL the worlds Catholics 230 million will be in Africa. In a pew poll taken in 2012 on the number of Atheists in Africa, the number was so low it didn't even register and came out as 0%.
Good luck with that, Africans.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#212994 Feb 17, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
Nope God wasn’t asleep. If you play with fire you get burned. Touch high voltage while grounded. Your going to get fried. Jump off a steep cliff your going to hit the rocks. You play with snakes you get fanged.

Jamie Coots died from being ignorant.
But his faith was great.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#212995 Feb 17, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
VERY GOOD, I'm impressed. Yes that is almost the correct chord scale for A7 functioning in the key of Bb. It's like this,,,A7 is a secondary dominant expecting to resolve down a perfect 5th to a diatonic chord, it this case it would be a D-7 Chord the chord built on the 3rd degree of Bb, Since I can't do anything about the Chord tones 1-3-5-and b7----A-C#-E- and G, I can alter the notes in between and make then diatonic in the key of Bb, so in Bb the notes between A and C# would be (Bb) and between C# and E would be (D) and between E and G would be (F natural) So you came up with the right scale except for Bb after the A, so we now have A-Bb-C#-D-E-F-G-A the Chord symbol would be A7 (b9)(b13)
Thanks. I love that stuff, too.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#212996 Feb 17, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
This from one of the most vile and judgemental godbots on topix.
He gave plenty of details that he called facts.
I can point out christian hypocrisy anytime I want.
I've earned that privilege and pointing out facts isn't always judgement, it can sometimes be observation.
Even if it was, who are you to pass judgement on a non believer?
What happens when one who is a flaunting charlatan accuses another of hypocrisy?

In essence the accuser is stepping on the scale in front of all to see. They’re verbally claiming one thing while everyone observes something else.

The truth ole chap, you’re saying one thing but the scales of judgment are saying another. That’s called a impropriety my friend. A false balance to be more precise.

If I may be honest with you. A false balance is an abomination. And people don't like abominations when they're verbalized as being precise and above reproach. When we all can see they're not.

[tipping hat]

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#212997 Feb 17, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
I can certainly appreciate classic rock music though I grew up playing the trumpet, and the trumpet was not an instrument involved in rock music, so I gravitated toward horn music, jazz, swing, Big Band, Bee Bop, classical. When I grew interested in composing I listened to the masters, many of them classical composers, and studied the techniques and approaches they used. On the Jazz side of things I studied the compositions of Duke Ellington, Johnny Richards, Horace Silver, Benny Golson, Bill Evans, Oscar Peterson. I incorporated the elements of both styles into my compositions, and later was influenced by latin music, and Motown, and other ethnic music. I lean toward a more complex form of music, the elements of rock are more simplistic. Simplicity is NEVER a bad thing, there is an "earthy" organic quality in rock music I find attractive. Complexity doesn't mean better, but I find it more possibilities to be creative with a more complex form of music. Yes, I to enjoy the discussion. A rare find to find someone knowledgable about music other than the people I work with.
Thanks again.
blacklagoon wrote:
Now with information I gave you on A7 in the key of Bb, try this one. The chord scale for B7 in the key of D major. A perfect 5th below B is?
E.

B is the fifth in the key of E.
blacklagoon wrote:
The Chord tones for a B7 are
-

B7 is like any other dominant 7th chord: 1-3-5-b7, which is b-d#-f#-a
blacklagoon wrote:
What key do you use to fill in between the B7s chord tones?.
Four sharps is E major (ionian), or B mixolydian.
blacklagoon wrote:
..........Your scale is?.........Good luck, I think you will do this no problem!!!
b-c#-d#-e-f#-g#-a-b

Thanks for this. It's been awhile.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#212998 Feb 17, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I seriously doubt Phil Robertson would give your two cents on the matter any thought at all.
Or give it two neurons - at least not while he was out of bed or on his feet. His CNS would be spoken for.

Have you seen Honey Boo-Boo and her family?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#212999 Feb 17, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>What happens when one who is a flaunting charlatan accuses another of hypocrisy?

In essence the accuser is stepping on the scale in front of all to see. They’re verbally claiming one thing while everyone observes something else.

The truth ole chap, you’re saying one thing but the scales of judgment are saying another. That’s called a impropriety my friend. A false balance to be more precise.

If I may be honest with you. A false balance is an abomination. And people don't like abominations when they're verbalized as being precise and above reproach. When we all can see they're not.

[tipping hat]
I already knew I was an abomination but the "old chap" and "charlatan" are new ones.

Care to explain or are you still just a raving lunatic?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#213000 Feb 17, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You've got a pretty messed up view on the sanctity of marriage, my fiend.

Yeah. Tell her to make you a sanctified sammich.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#213001 Feb 17, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Eagle was correct. Coots died because he was Biblically ignorant.
Do we need to fuss over what kind of ignorant he was? He had great faith, and now he's dead.

Are you familiar with the Darwin Awards?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#213002 Feb 17, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks again.
<quoted text>
E.
B is the fifth in the key of E.
<quoted text>-
B7 is like any other dominant 7th chord: 1-3-5-b7, which is b-d#-f#-a
<quoted text>
Four sharps is E major (ionian), or B mixolydian.
<quoted text>
b-c#-d#-e-f#-g#-a-b
Thanks for this. It's been awhile.
your my new hero!!!! excellent!!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#213003 Feb 17, 2014
Zachary Gima wrote:
I am still paying off my tuition from USC. Unfortunately, I will owe the establishment for awhile with the hope of future income offsetting and then surpassing my current debt.....finger's crossed - LOL
Good luck.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#213004 Feb 17, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
But his faith was great.
Don't ya just love it?

If someone survives a horrible car accident, the godbots point and say "God saved him!" And if someone doesn't survive the accident, well either God wasn't there or God has mysterious ways. But someone puts their faith in this God to save them from poisonous snakes and it's "He's ignorant!" Even though there is a passage in their book that says God would save him.

This God character doesn't seem very reliable.

And, yes, Coots had great faith...though misplaced faith IMHO.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#213005 Feb 17, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
I already knew I was an abomination but the "old chap" and "charlatan" are new ones.
Care to explain or are you still just a raving lunatic?
Eagle is just engaging in projection.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#213006 Feb 17, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>Eagle is just engaging in projection.
Ah, the popular past time of godbots.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#213007 Feb 17, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You've got a pretty messed up view on the sanctity of marriage, my fiend.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah. Tell her to make you a sanctified sammich.
On a holy roll?

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