Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Bongo

Miller Place, NY

#212440 Feb 14, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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To your knowledge, has Jesus ever turned anybody down that prayed for forgiveness? I've never heard anybody report that he said "No." How much easier does it get than that?.
1) I couldn't know for sure but I think, Yes. 2) Many people perhaps most must think it was No, Why else would they keep asking repeatedly and suffer deep self loathing,fear and condemnation.? The Jews by wich we have the gospel used to have a method of sinning and then killing an animal. God had enough of that tom foolery and gave his son to do it once and for all. Thanks to their rejection of messiah. Its a heart thing, not a mechanical mind thing. True story, I knew a lawyer fresh out of law school who was raised catholic. He somehow adopted, seemingly with clear conscience , the idea that he could do wrong and on sunday just confess and ask and get forgiveness. I was astonished at how wrong that sounded and that was before I was a Christian. I think a person who continues sin as a "matter of course" will eventually become apostate so thay can stop the mental torture of guilt shame and condemnation.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#212441 Feb 14, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Of course it doesn't.
You might think that people who trust and value faith, who think that it is a superior methodology, would claim it only for themselves, and point to the absence of it within atheism. What we're seeing more and more, is faith based thinkers accusing atheists of having faith as a way of insulting us, or bringing us down to their level.
Welcome to this dumb topix thread. I think this one is one of the better ones.
Ironically, these people (godbots) seem to think that faith based on wishes, is the **same** sort as faith based on actual **experience**.

The former is what all **religious** faith is, of course.

The latter is often expressed as trust-- in that trust must be earned (i.e. by experience).

But that is likely too subtle for your typical True Believer™ to comprehend.

After all-- they truly believe the world is just 6000 years young.....

....(I know.. I know... idiots is too kind a word to describe them)
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#212442 Feb 14, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<<continued>>
Properties of the Number 40
General
Jesus preached for 40 month.
Saint John takes care 40 hours near to the body of the Very Holy Virgin Mary before her Assumption to the Sky.
It is 40 years after the crucifixion of the Jesus Christ that Jerusalem was taken by the Romans and that the Temple was destroyed.
The body of Jesus remained 40 hours in the sepulchre.
Jesus received 40 blows of whip during his whipping, according to visions of Maria Valtorta. However, according to visions of Mary Agreda, Jesus would have received 5115 blows of whip!
The 40 days of the Lent before Easter.
Number of years that no man and no beast would have crossed Egypt, according to an old prophecy.
According to the book of secrets of Enoch, the four rivers of the terrestrial Paradise are subdivided by forty and surround all the Earth.
The stigmatized Martha Robin was fed only the Eucharist during 40 years.
The 40 days of fast that Buddha made to the desert before to exert his apostolate.
It is to 40 years that Buddha and Mahomet would have begun their preaching.
According to the Egyptians, it is the number of days necessary in order that the soul becomes definitively delivered of his body. Indeed, following the death of the physical body, the etheric body spends globally 40 days to be dissolved in the universe. As long as it is not fully dissolved and that particles which constitute it did not join the various elements of the nature, the conscience of the defunct will remain linked, more or less closely, to the terrestrial world in which he evolved. This is why a religious ceremony is celebrated 40 days after a death in some traditions in order to facilitate the definitive liberation of the conscience of the being with his habits and his material fasteners. It should however not confuse with what it is called the etheric energy which it is totally extracted of the body after the three days following the death.
According to the Gospel of Barnabas, chapter 54, at the end of the world, there will be 40 darkness years on the world, after what, God will give the life to his Messenger, as well as to his angels and all the elect.
For Islam, the number 40 occupies an important place: the 40 companions, the 40 perfect; the universe is supported by 40 pillars; the 40 supports of the dome of the Mosque of Omar in Jerusalem; And at the Means-Age the Muslems were made depilate the armpits every 40 days.
In some savage tribes, after the circumcision, the males had to withdraw themselves in the bush for a period of solitude of 40 days at the end of which they could then return to the village.
There had 40 mourning nights in the mysteries of Persephon and 40 days of sacrifices in the greeting of Mithra.
Philip-August and Saint-Louis enforce the regulation "Forty-the-Roy", period of 40 days where it was forbidden to any Lord to attack the nearest relatives of the offender.
Birthday of person in Japan: beginning of the old age - shoro.
Anniversary of marriage: weddings of ruby.
Occurrence
The number 40 is used 98 times in the Bible.
The number 1 under its cardinal form is used 40 times in the Gospel of saint John.
The number 40 is used 5 times in the Koran.(Koran II,48, V,29, VII,137, X,17 and XLVI,14)
The term "city of David", designating Jerusalem, appears 40 times in the OT. The verb to adore is used 40 times in the NT and the verb to disavow, 40 times in the Bible.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu40.ph...
40 is the most important number and proves that marriage can only be between a man and woman as a man and woman have 40 fingers and toes between them.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#212443 Feb 14, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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<headdesk>

.
I hope you didn't hurt yourself.

You may want to put some ice on the bump - to keep the swelling down.

Good luck.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#212445 Feb 14, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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... yes, yes... everyone knows that.
The *real* question is this:
What is the question, that 42 is the answer for?
Hmmm?
;)
No one can ever know both the question and the answer. If anyone ever finds out, the universe will end and be replaced by something even stranger.(Some philosophers think this has already happened.)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#212446 Feb 14, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
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40 is the most important number and proves that marriage can only be between a man and woman as a man and woman have 40 fingers and toes between them.
I thought it was because 40 is the maximum number of miniature marshmallows you can pack into a small cup with only one hand.

Oh well-- learn something new.

<snark>
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#212447 Feb 14, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Indeed.
It must have been magical camels....
;)
or magical mushrooms?

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#212448 Feb 14, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
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40 is the most important number and proves that marriage can only be between a man and woman as a man and woman have 40 fingers and toes between them.
Does this mean that polydactyl people can not get married?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#212449 Feb 14, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Indeed.

This magical spell-casting that absolves them of any and all guilt (and by association, any and all **responsibility**) has created a nation of irresponsible people.

Proof?

Well.... Washington, DC is a lovely example.

And the fact that prisons contain more Genuine Christians™ than any other?

Is another.
I was reading these earlier and have read a few articles on Citizens just up and leaving the christian nation of America.

Do you think there's some validity to this?

I have a few mates from the States who have left and live in a place filled with international tourists and new arrivals alike but like to get different opinions from those still in the US.

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/02/2014-too-...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-09/amer...

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#212450 Feb 14, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
Numerology now???
<headdesk>
The only number that has importance is 42. After all, it is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything.
Well, I must confess to a personal fondness for 3.1415926...

Herhehe.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#212452 Feb 14, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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According to the NOVA special Darwins Stepchild linked us to, David is the earliest biblical character that can be said to have been a historical character. Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, Noah, Shem, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Esau, Joseph and his brothers, Job. Jonah, Lot, Moses, Joshua - none of these people is known to have actually existed, and none of the myths surrounding them is known to have actually occurred including the Exodus and the siege of Canaan.
But starting about 1000 BCE with David and Solomon, real people are known to have been kings over a real nation, even if not every story about them is authentic.
I thought Shem was Larry and Moe's brother. Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else.
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#212453 Feb 14, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
Does this mean that polydactyl people can not get married?
That's right along with people who have had an accident and are minus a few bits and pieces.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#212454 Feb 14, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Exactly!
The idiotic idea that "it's all for the best" and "god has a plan" and "it's all god's will" is **bullshyt**.
It causes people more grief than **any** slight help it might accidentally cause.
The only **rational** message a **sane** person could take, from witnessing the tragedy you describe?
Is that if there is a god, he's a real douchenozzle, and what this god likes the **most**?
Is making little girls **suffer** endlessly.
We know this must be so, right?
Because one of this god's spokes-weenies has told us that god delights at the suffering of people (Mother Teresa).
... especially little girls (or so it appears)
... meh.
"Little girls, like butterflies, need no exuse." - RAH.

And yes, I'd take a bullet.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#212455 Feb 14, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it doesn't.
You might think that people who trust and value faith, who think that it is a superior methodology, would claim it only for themselves, and point to the absence of it within atheism. What we're seeing more and more, is faith based thinkers accusing atheists of having faith as a way of insulting us, or bringing us down to their level.
Welcome to this dumb topix thread. I think this one is one of the better ones.
I dyed my pubic hair blonde but before I did that I wrote front and back on my panties just to be sure.

When I tried to put them on this morning the words were upside down and I couldn't read them. Oh well.

I miss RR :(
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#212456 Feb 14, 2014
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Well, I must confess to a personal fondness for 3.1415926...
Herhehe.
I can't believe we share the same lucky number... I read you're moving back to the "old country". Do they have computers in Ireland?
Richardfs

Merrylands, Australia

#212457 Feb 14, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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I dyed my pubic hair blonde but before I did that I wrote front and back on my panties just to be sure.
When I tried to put them on this morning the words were upside down and I couldn't read them. Oh well.
I miss RR :(
What happened to him?

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#212459 Feb 14, 2014
Six_Of_One wrote:
ha, got it!
What's funny is that I bet if someone put up a post that said "Religion requires as much science as atheists" the absurdity would be immediately obvious. Someone this topic's title doesn't jump out as fast.
Good stuff...
Theists do often argue that their religion is compatible with science. Some here have credited Christianity with science altogether.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#212460 Feb 14, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
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"Before camels were available" what?
Were they on strike or something?
Camels only work on Wednesdays.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#212461 Feb 14, 2014
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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The only *sane* conclusion to It Ain'ts story is that this god of theirs must really **delight** in the suffering of little girls.
After all, isn't that what Mother Teresa claimed?
... meh.
Wasn't that what she said?
I seem to recall that she denied her patients pain meds - but accepted them herself.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#212462 Feb 14, 2014
Richardfs wrote:
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40 is the most important number and proves that marriage can only be between a man and woman as a man and woman have 40 fingers and toes between them.
That's not true, is it?

OhhhMGeeee. It is. My girlfriend and I only have 35.

Shutthefuck up, K?

Damn this homosexuality.

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