The law of Logic

The law of Logic

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“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#22 Jun 8, 2012
The serpent was right wrote:
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I'll tell you what. You prove that there is a god, and I'll become a JW.
Not me, I am filing charges against the thing, on behalf of every human who has been hurt by that monstrous book of evil, from whence the god came.
You can't fight a wisp of nothing, but a god made real, bring that bastard. I got a world of hurt, saved just for it.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#23 Jun 8, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Not me, I am filing charges against the thing, on behalf of every human who has been hurt by that monstrous book of evil, from whence the god came.
You can't fight a wisp of nothing, but a god made real, bring that bastard. I got a world of hurt, saved just for it.
How about making him sit down and right out 10,000 times:-

The next time I author a book I will use a proof reader.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#24 Jun 9, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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How about making him sit down and right out 10,000 times:-
The next time I author a book I will use a proof reader.
LOL! Damn, am I coming across as a school marm?
Jehovah is God

Tulsa, OK

#25 Jun 9, 2012
The Bible compares the end of this system to a harvest, thus you can understand the difference between the weeds and the wheat. It is very difficult to tell the difference between them, that is why the Bible says in the harvest of this world, the reapers are angels.
Matthew 13: 39 and 49

It is also true with sheep and goats, but more important is their personalities, where the sheep are meek and the goats are stubborn or rebellious.

Unless a person is meek or teachable, he will never allow anyone to reason with him, he likes his thinking as it is.

Just as a beautiful stallion that is wild, unless he is tamed, he is useless. He is still called a jughead.

“The eye has it...”

Since: Jan 12

Russell's teapot.

#26 Jun 9, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
The Bible compares the end of this system to a harvest, thus you can understand the difference between the weeds and the wheat.
Why?

It's easy to tell the difference between weeds and wheat. Don't you think?
It is very difficult to tell the difference between them, that is why the Bible says in the harvest of this world, the reapers are angels. Matthew 13: 39 and 49
It's interesting your deity belief sees humans as equating to weeds.

Or a source of food.
It is also true with sheep and goats, but more important is their personalities, where the sheep are meek and the goats are stubborn or rebellious.
Ahhh, you mean goats are intelligent, and you are correct.

Sheep must be led, goats are driven.
Unless a person is meek or teachable, he will never allow anyone to reason with him, he likes his thinking as it is.
Right, your message is one that prefers ignorance over knowledge.
Just as a beautiful stallion that is wild, unless he is tamed, he is useless.

You're all over the place. I understand, it must be difficult for you. Weeds, wheat, sheep, goats, a stallion. What's next?
He is still called a jughead.
Great, a character from an Archies cartoon....
ARGUING with IDIOTS

Fresno, CA

#27 Jun 10, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Certainly. My evidence for this is that there is no evidence to state otherwise. For the assertion that life came from non-life to be true, there would have to be evidence to contradict it. We can trace the history of the Earth back to a point where no life existed, but even without that, there was a time the Earth did not exist, and therefore no life could have existed on a non-existent planet.
Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence! I am surprised that you would use a fallacy by default!

Not very scientific!

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#28 Jun 10, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence! I am surprised that you would use a fallacy by default!
Not very scientific!
How about Santa, IPU and the tooth fairy.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#30 Jun 10, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence! I am surprised that you would use a fallacy by default!
Not very scientific!
So should all deities, myths, fairy tales, and the like be believed?

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#31 Jun 10, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
The truth is, you must have faith to believe in God, because the Bible is the only book that explains our designer and Creator.
If you don't believe that Jesus is the only begotten son of God, not a trinity god as religion teaches, you will never understand the Bible, and your faith is in vain.
You must worship God the way he wants to be worshiped not as a religion teaches through its man made doctrines. Start your Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses and learn the truth about God and life, then decide whether to know, love and serve him as our heavenly Father. John 4:24
So let's see...

You must have faith to believe in God.

And you must believe in God to have faith.

Kinda circular, don't you think.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#32 Jun 10, 2012
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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So let's see...
You must have faith to believe in God.
And you must believe in God to have faith.
Kinda circular, don't you think.
Circular reasoning is the foundation of all religion.
ARGUING with IDIOTS

United States

#33 Jun 10, 2012
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>So should all deities, myths, fairy tales, and the like be believed?
In logic, the law of non-contradiction does not allow that option!
redneck

Glendale, OR

#34 Jun 11, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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In logic, the law of non-contradiction does not allow that option!
You don't know 'truth' or 'law' of anything. You are a believer. That's all.Nothing more.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#35 Jun 11, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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In logic, the law of non-contradiction does not allow that option!
As you say, they can't all be right...but they can certainly all be wrong.

Therefore in order to properly assess which deity myth has merit, there must be evidence that one particular deity is true and that all others are false.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#36 Jun 11, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence! I am surprised that you would use a fallacy by default!
Not very scientific!
It is only a fallacy in some matters, not all. In this matter it is not a fallacy. No matter how life came to be, it came from non-life, even if wished into existence by a genie the matter used to make life would have to come from somewhere, we are made up of non-living matter. Well, at a very basic level. We are technically colonies of colonies of single celled animals, working cooperatively, each made up of non-living matter.

Therefore, all life came from non-living matter.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#37 Jun 11, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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In logic, the law of non-contradiction does not allow that option!
So there is no god do to the “law of non-contradiction”.

Circular reasoning or logic is an attempt to support a statement or idea by simply repeating the statement or idea in different or stronger terms. In this fallacy, the reason given is nothing more than a restatement of the conclusion that poses as the reason for the conclusion.

Circular reasoning is providing evidence for the validity of an assertion, which assumes the validity of the assertion.

General forms include "A is true because A is true" or "A is true because B is true, and B is true because A is true".

Often used as a mechanism to prevent an assertion from being challenged or questioned, or to "win" a debate by sending it round and round in circles.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#38 Jul 12, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
The truth is, you must have faith to believe in God, because the Bible is the only book that explains our designer and Creator.
If you don't believe that Jesus is the only begotten son of God, not a trinity god as religion teaches, you will never understand the Bible, and your faith is in vain.
You must worship God the way he wants to be worshiped not as a religion teaches through its man made doctrines. Start your Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses and learn the truth about God and life, then decide whether to know, love and serve him as our heavenly Father. John 4:24
I read the buybull, it said your god likes golden dipt hemorrhoids. Imagine that. Has it made you up-end anyone, to harvest a few, just to please your god?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#39 Jul 12, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
The Bible compares the end of this system to a harvest, thus you can understand the difference between the weeds and the wheat. It is very difficult to tell the difference between them, that is why the Bible says in the harvest of this world, the reapers are angels.
Matthew 13: 39 and 49
It is also true with sheep and goats, but more important is their personalities, where the sheep are meek and the goats are stubborn or rebellious.
Unless a person is meek or teachable, he will never allow anyone to reason with him, he likes his thinking as it is.
Just as a beautiful stallion that is wild, unless he is tamed, he is useless. He is still called a jughead.
You think very much like your spell casters and witch doctors teach you to, only the broken have any value.

The stallion in his freedom, unbroken and wild, is unparalleled in value. He is majestic, he is beauty, he is nature, he is as he should be.

You human, have been trampled, forced to deny what humanity truly is. It is only the theist human, among all animals that would seek to escape who he is. Imagine, if a dog considered himself to be as a dog, pure filth and worthless. His goal, to become as something more than a dog, he would aspire to be as the god of dogs, but first he would have to prostrate himself before the dog god, and profess his unworthiness and beg to be delivered from his filthy dog self.

Or consider the same, if the animal were a goat, a sheep, a camel, a frog. Being who it truly is, and being ashamed to be itself.

How sad that you Christains have been so bamboozled, to see in mankind only that which is dirty, yet you cannot see that a god who would make you eat your children, is not only dirty but also a monster, not worthy of worship.

Since: Dec 10

Fogelsville, PA

#40 Jul 13, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence! I am surprised that you would use a fallacy by default!
Not very scientific!
On the face of it, that is true, especially for a new theory, or some poorly described object. This is not the case though for your god(I am assuming you are a christian). In the case of your god, you have very detailed desciptions of your god, his supposed deeds, and a history of close personal interaction with his creations. The fact that none of those things can be repeated, or even verified would indicate that the source is flawed and unreliable. In addition, many things in the bible contradict each other or have been proven simply untrue. In the case of your god, a lack of evidence where there SHOULD be evidence constitutes an evidence of absence.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#41 Jul 13, 2012
Jehovah is God wrote:
The truth is, you must have faith to believe in God,...
This much is actually true, because there is no evidence that would justify such a belief.'Faith' is belief in the absence of evidence, when the topic is religion. When any other topic is being discussed, believing something without any evidence to support the belief is called 'insanity'. The two terms are synonymous in this context.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#42 Jul 13, 2012
ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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In logic, the law of non-contradiction does not allow that option!
If there's a law of non-contradiction, the authors of the bible are repeat felons.

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