Talking some sense into you people...

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faithismyshield

Czech Republic

#1 Jul 16, 2014
Hey atheists, I've come here to talk some sense into you people. First of all it's outrageous that you believe there is no God that created us. Secondly, what is the point of rubbing your atheism in other people's faces if God doesn't exist and nothing matters? It makes no sense. You do have faith, just in something else.

I cannot see how people can take atheism seriously at all..... it's sad. There is no logical premise to it, it's just an assumption based on an absolute, stone cold lack of evidence. atheists come to faulty conclusions based on an argument from ignorance, faulty logic and fault assumptions which have no basis in reality.

I have a huge house, a nice sports car, a beautiful wife, 3 kids, lots of money and I'm ripped like crazy. I was captain of the football team and I am also a boxing champion. So if any of you atheists want to step up and take me on, I can defeat you on a personal and intellectual level. You people obviously don't have very high IQs though, that's the reason I don't expect much from atheists in the first place....

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#2 Jul 16, 2014
How do you expect to get a rational response out of atheists and Christians, first off, if you just mud-sling everywhere? That's not going to win you any friends. I will agree that both the atheists and Christians can get pretty nuts.....but there's no need to insult them. They're humans just like you.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#3 Jul 16, 2014
faithismyshield wrote:
Hey atheists, I've come here to talk some sense into you people. First of all it's outrageous that you believe there is no God that created us. Secondly, what is the point of rubbing your atheism in other people's faces if God doesn't exist and nothing matters? It makes no sense. You do have faith, just in something else.
I cannot see how people can take atheism seriously at all..... it's sad. There is no logical premise to it, it's just an assumption based on an absolute, stone cold lack of evidence. atheists come to faulty conclusions based on an argument from ignorance, faulty logic and fault assumptions which have no basis in reality.
I have a huge house, a nice sports car, a beautiful wife, 3 kids, lots of money and I'm ripped like crazy. I was captain of the football team and I am also a boxing champion. So if any of you atheists want to step up and take me on, I can defeat you on a personal and intellectual level. You people obviously don't have very high IQs though, that's the reason I don't expect much from atheists in the first place....
Yawn.No proof of your god is presented. We are just supposed to take your word for it. Not very impressive at all. Particularly since the achievements you cite "ripped like crazy", "captain of football team" "boxing champion" have nothing to do with intellect. In fact, since the whole point of boxing is to give the opponent a concussion, brain damage is rampant among former boxers. I, for one, am not interested in the opinions of a brain-damaged former jock who misunderstands the allocation of the burden of proof, and can cite no evidence to back up his position.

You make a big deal about atheists "rubbing people's noses" in our lack of belief. Perhaps it has eluded you that you have come into this forum, rather than atheists having gone into some religious forum. Our noses having been suitably rubbed into your ignorance, I would guess your time here is done.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#4 Jul 16, 2014
faithismyshield wrote:
Hey atheists, I've come here to talk some sense into you people. First of all it's outrageous that you believe there is no God that created us. Secondly, what is the point of rubbing your atheism in other people's faces if God doesn't exist and nothing matters? It makes no sense. You do have faith, just in something else.
I cannot see how people can take atheism seriously at all..... it's sad. There is no logical premise to it, it's just an assumption based on an absolute, stone cold lack of evidence. atheists come to faulty conclusions based on an argument from ignorance, faulty logic and fault assumptions which have no basis in reality.
I have a huge house, a nice sports car, a beautiful wife, 3 kids, lots of money and I'm ripped like crazy. I was captain of the football team and I am also a boxing champion. So if any of you atheists want to step up and take me on, I can defeat you on a personal and intellectual level. You people obviously don't have very high IQs though, that's the reason I don't expect much from atheists in the first place....
"I have a huge house, a nice sports car, a beautiful wife, 3 kids, lots of money and I'm ripped like crazy. I was captain of the football team and I am also a boxing champion".......oh, and a small penis. LOL, your personality is likely as obnoxious as your ego.

You are going to beat us on an intellectual level? Please, you don't know how to use logic in the 1st place, not on this topic. You use faith, not evidence. I am atheist, simply because no one, ever, has been able to provide evidence, that meets the required burden of proof. Therefore, the logical conclusion is not to believe that claim, not until sufficient evidence is met.

Where's your evidence for your god. If it is so obvious, you must have enough proof, not to just convince atheists, but all other religions around the world, that they have been wrong all this time to.

Ok, so letís see how intellectual you claim to be. Here's your chance, hero.

Since: May 10

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#5 Jul 16, 2014
Cujo wrote:
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"I have a huge house, a nice sports car, a beautiful wife, 3 kids, lots of money and I'm ripped like crazy. I was captain of the football team and I am also a boxing champion".......oh, and a small penis.
Wow, Cueball. Man. You sound just like me except for the small penis.

I was All-American at Alabama. Played for Ray Perkins. Got kicked off the team and shot twice.

Still made the Cincinnatti Bengals. Got kicked off there too for waking up in Miami with 2 underage girls and 5 guns in my truck. Also had a case of dynamite. Don't remember how I got there. My Dad fought Joe Louis.
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#6 Jul 17, 2014
Here's common sense: There are no such things as gods or fairies.

Religion = superstition
It's divisive and outdated. Get over it.

Since: May 10

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#7 Jul 17, 2014
EdSed wrote:
Here's common sense: There are no such things as gods or fairies.
To have this definitive knowledge, you would have to be omniscient.

So you are a god.

So gods exist.

So you are wrong either way.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#8 Jul 17, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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To have this definitive knowledge, you would have to be omniscient.
So you are a god.
So gods exist.
So you are wrong either way.
Does this logic apply to yourself as well?

If you claim to know absolutely that god exists, then you are claiming omniscience, and therefore godhood, for yourself.

I'm pretty sure the god you claim exists, the one of the bible, is a bit put off by claims of godhood, other than claims for his own divinity.

So, if you claim to know for sure, and you are right, you are guaranteeing yourself eternal damnation.

So, the safest position for a believer is to believe, but to acknowledge that absolute certainty of god's existence is impossible.

Congratulations, Buck, you are now an agnostic!

Since: May 10

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#9 Jul 17, 2014
Amused wrote:
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Does this logic apply to yourself as well?
If you claim to know absolutely that god exists, then you are claiming omniscience, and therefore godhood, for yourself.
I'm pretty sure the god you claim exists, the one of the bible, is a bit put off by claims of godhood, other than claims for his own divinity.
So, if you claim to know for sure, and you are right, you are guaranteeing yourself eternal damnation.
So, the safest position for a believer is to believe, but to acknowledge that absolute certainty of god's existence is impossible.
Congratulations, Buck, you are now an agnostic!
I do not claim to know a god exists.

I believe a god exists.

Makes me a theist.

Nice doing business with ya, A Mule.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#10 Jul 19, 2014
faithismyshield wrote:
Hey atheists, I've come here to talk some sense into you people. First of all it's outrageous that you believe there is no God that created us. Secondly, what is the point of rubbing your atheism in other people's faces if God doesn't exist and nothing matters? It makes no sense. You do have faith, just in something else.
I cannot see how people can take atheism seriously at all..... it's sad. There is no logical premise to it, it's just an assumption based on an absolute, stone cold lack of evidence. atheists come to faulty conclusions based on an argument from ignorance, faulty logic and fault assumptions which have no basis in reality.
I have a huge house, a nice sports car, a beautiful wife, 3 kids, lots of money and I'm ripped like crazy. I was captain of the football team and I am also a boxing champion. So if any of you atheists want to step up and take me on, I can defeat you on a personal and intellectual level. You people obviously don't have very high IQs though, that's the reason I don't expect much from atheists in the first place....
Which god is it that you are slinging at us now. It is the one who was forced on your forefathers? Is it the one your tribe has worshipped since the beginning of mankind? Is it the one revealed to your prophet just a few thousand years ago? Or maybe it's the one who was revealed just a few decades ago? Maybe it's the one who was revealed just last week? Is it the one who been perverted from it's original Pagan form, to now fit a thousand different religion's idea of what a god is? Is your god even the god of your actual peoples or is it the god of your enemies, that you are hawking?

Did you inherit your god from your family? Did a cult introduce you, or did a mouth piece befuddle your way of thinking, until you were thinking as he chose you to? Do you actually know your god, or do you just know how he was presented to you?

Atheism is simply a lack of indoctrination. We do not and cannot rub that in your face as if it is something, when it is just the lack of that thing called indoctrination. You got some, we don't.

And, it is exactly that lack of evidence that makes sure we can't believe in whatever god is being pushed at us today.

Luckily for us, all gods seem to have that one BIG thing in common. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF A SINGLE ONE OF THEM!
Patrick

United States

#11 Jul 19, 2014
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"The most potent imagery in immigration politics has been when things are out of control," said Suro, now a journalism professor at the University of Southern California. "Those three words often spell a turn toward restriction, regardless of what the actual circumstance is."

The political changes come as alarm rises about the more than 57,000 children who have entered the country since October, many of whom are languishing in makeshift detention facilities as the country's overwhelmed immigration courts fail to keep pace with the need to provide each child a hearing before a judge as required by a 2008 law.

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Patrick

United States

#12 Jul 19, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Which god is it that you are slinging at us now. It is the one who was forced on your forefathers? Is it the one your tribe has worshipped since the beginning of mankind? Is it the one revealed to your prophet just a few thousand years ago? Or maybe it's the one who was revealed just a few decades ago? Maybe it's the one who was revealed just last week? Is it the one who been perverted from it's original Pagan form, to now fit a thousand different religion's idea of what a god is? Is your god even the god of your actual peoples or is it the god of your enemies, that you are hawking?
Did you inherit your god from your family? Did a cult introduce you, or did a mouth piece befuddle your way of thinking, until you were thinking as he chose you to? Do you actually know your god, or do you just know how he was presented to you?
Atheism is simply a lack of indoctrination. We do not and cannot rub that in your face as if it is something, when it is just the lack of that thing called indoctrination. You got some, we don't.
And, it is exactly that lack of evidence that makes sure we can't believe in whatever god is being pushed at us today.
Luckily for us, all gods seem to have that one BIG thing in common. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF A SINGLE ONE OF THEM!
Atheism is simply a lack of indoctrination.
LOL

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#13 Jul 20, 2014
Lelouch0 wrote:
How do you expect to get a rational response out of atheists and Christians, first off, if you just mud-sling everywhere? That's not going to win you any friends. I will agree that both the atheists and Christians can get pretty nuts.....but there's no need to insult them. They're humans just like you.
Stop rubbing you're Atheism in our faces. Atheists go nuts when I say I believe in God. Atheists see me as a person who deserves to be sentenced to death because I don't follow all their scientific crap.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#14 Jul 20, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Which god is it that you are slinging at us now. It is the one who was forced on your forefathers? Is it the one your tribe has worshipped since the beginning of mankind? Is it the one revealed to your prophet just a few thousand years ago? Or maybe it's the one who was revealed just a few decades ago? Maybe it's the one who was revealed just last week? Is it the one who been perverted from it's original Pagan form, to now fit a thousand different religion's idea of what a god is? Is your god even the god of your actual peoples or is it the god of your enemies, that you are hawking?
Did you inherit your god from your family? Did a cult introduce you, or did a mouth piece befuddle your way of thinking, until you were thinking as he chose you to? Do you actually know your god, or do you just know how he was presented to you?
Atheism is simply a lack of indoctrination. We do not and cannot rub that in your face as if it is something, when it is just the lack of that thing called indoctrination. You got some, we don't.
And, it is exactly that lack of evidence that makes sure we can't believe in whatever god is being pushed at us today.
Luckily for us, all gods seem to have that one BIG thing in common. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF A SINGLE ONE OF THEM!
There is also no evidence that proves the Earth can come from nothing

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#15 Jul 20, 2014
EdSed wrote:
Here's common sense: There are no such things as gods or fairies.
Religion = superstition
It's divisive and outdated. Get over it.
I never said I believe in fairies, so stop mentioning them or must I teach you English, or the difference between a God and a Fairy
Patrick

United States

#16 Jul 20, 2014
In mathematics, non-Euclidean geometry consists of two geometries based on axioms closely related to those specifying Euclidean geometry. As Euclidean geometry lies at the intersection of metric geometry and affine geometry, non-Euclidean geometry arises when either the metric requirement is relaxed, or the parallel postulate is set aside. In the latter case one obtains hyperbolic geometry and elliptic geometry, the traditional non-Euclidean geometries. When the metric requirement is relaxed, then there are affine planes associated with the planar algebras which give rise to kinematic geometries that have also been called non-Euclidean geometry.
The essential difference between the metric geometries is the nature of parallel lines. Euclid's fifth postulate, the parallel postulate, is equivalent to Playfair's postulate, which states that, within a two-dimensional plane, for any given line &#8467; and a point A, which is not on &#8467;, there is exactly one line through A that does not intersect &#8467;. In hyperbolic geometry, by contrast, there are infinitely many lines through A not intersecting &#8467;, while in elliptic geometry, any line through A intersects &#8467; (see the entries on hyperbolic geometry, elliptic geometry, and absolute geometry for more information).
Another way to describe the differences between these geometries is to consider two straight lines indefinitely extended in a two-dimensional plane that are both perpendicular to a third line:
In Euclidean geometry the lines remain at a constant distance from each other even if extended to infinity, and are known as parallels.
In hyperbolic geometry they "curve away" from each other, increasing in distance as one moves further from the points of intersection with the common perpendicular; these lines are often called ultraparallels.
In elliptic geometry the lines "curve toward" each other and intersect.

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Earth,TX

#17 Jul 20, 2014
Patrick wrote:
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Atheism is simply a lack of indoctrination.
LOL
Right, you got it, and it is so simple. The "a" means not, as in not theist, and theist is he who is indoctrinated.

The indoctrinated are the Sceintologists, Mormans, Shakers, Vodun, Satanists, Christians, Pagans, etc. You know the weirdos

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#18 Jul 20, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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Stop rubbing you're Atheism in our faces. Atheists go nuts when I say I believe in God. Atheists see me as a person who deserves to be sentenced to death because I don't follow all their scientific crap.
Wow, you didn't read his post at all. And atheism isn't an "ism" at all, it's actually the lack of an ism.

Don't you wish you could find an atheist or two to say the crap that you claim we say, so you could quit being the only one saying it?

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Earth,TX

#19 Jul 20, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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There is also no evidence that proves the Earth can come from nothing
No one is saying it did, except you. And you appear to be making that claim for someone else. So either show us that someone or maybe you should just quit saying it.

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Since: May 09

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#20 Jul 20, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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I never said I believe in fairies, so stop mentioning them or must I teach you English, or the difference between a God and a Fairy
There is no difference. Fairies and gods spring from the same source, the mind of man, but claiming either to be truth, marks you as a practioner of wishcraft.

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