God fails again! Rick Warren's son suicide.

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Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1 Apr 6, 2013
Let the hand wringing and theist excuses begin.

http://news.yahoo.com/church-pastor-rick-warr...
DealBreaker

AOL

#2 Apr 6, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Let the hand wringing and theist excuses begin.
http://news.yahoo.com/church-pastor-rick-warr...
1.The devil made him do it.
2.He figured it out, the gay can't be prayed away.
3.No one ever asked "in his name" for him to be healed.
4. Why bother, he can never be the son Dad actually wanted.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#3 Apr 6, 2013
Yes these will be on the theist list I am sure.
DealBreaker wrote:
<quoted text>1.The devil made him do it.
2.He figured it out, the gay can't be prayed away.
3.No one ever asked "in his name" for him to be healed.
4. Why bother, he can never be the son Dad actually wanted.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#4 Apr 6, 2013
I guess ole Rick should have been more supportive to his child instead of scamming millions from rubes.
Imhotep

Hernando, FL

#5 Apr 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I guess ole Rick should have been more supportive to his child instead of scamming millions from rubes.
Pray away gay?

This is perhaps the most ludicrous thing I've heard lately.

12% Of the entire world is homosexual.

Television preachers are nothing more than snake oil salesman They don't believe what they preach but they do believe the money they receive!

A towering ego, an insatiable appetite for adoration and applause, a rampant libido, and above all, an eye on the big money, mark out the "charismatic" personality well-suited to the business of religion.

All he needs is oratorical skill, unbridled ambition and a leg-up from a "name" already in the business.

Many have trod the path. The roll-call of dishonour speaks volumes. Hiding behind their Bibles and clerical collars are a bunch of crooks and hucksters, womanising egotists and dangerous megalomaniacs.





Rich. Graham got to better parties by shrewdly moving from fundamentalism to evangelicalism.

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 19.23.




Billy Graham: Global Crusader - 417 times

1957 and Billy Graham got the televangelist circus on the road. What a star still serving up hot Jesus half a century later. Pastor-in-Chief helped George W Bush hear voices. Don't mention anti-Semitic indiscretions of the 1970s.

Salary package from Bill Graham Evangelistic Organization "modest" by Jesus Inc. standards (estimated at $450,000.) Instead, Billy basks in the presence of the rich, famous and powerful.

In 1999 Billy Graham Newspapers estimated Graham's Christian empire, which had over 10 million followers, grossed $100 million annually.
Imhotep

Hernando, FL

#6 Apr 7, 2013
And how does this affect our elected leaders is the question?

Answer

"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
~ George Herbert Walker Bush

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7 Apr 7, 2013
Obviously he shunned his son for being gay. If he had just accepted and loved his child for who he is the boy would probably be alive still.

Sad just so sad this boy obviously was in a hostile environment and was ashamed and tortured by his bible beating Dad's disapproval.
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>Pray away gay?

This is perhaps the most ludicrous thing I've heard lately.

12% Of the entire world is homosexual.

Television preachers are nothing more than snake oil salesman They don't believe what they preach but they do believe the money they receive!

A towering ego, an insatiable appetite for adoration and applause, a rampant libido, and above all, an eye on the big money, mark out the "charismatic" personality well-suited to the business of religion.

All he needs is oratorical skill, unbridled ambition and a leg-up from a "name" already in the business.

Many have trod the path. The roll-call of dishonour speaks volumes. Hiding behind their Bibles and clerical collars are a bunch of crooks and hucksters, womanising egotists and dangerous megalomaniacs.





Rich. Graham got to better parties by shrewdly moving from fundamentalism to evangelicalism.

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven." – Matthew 19.23.




Billy Graham: Global Crusader - 417 times

1957 and Billy Graham got the televangelist circus on the road. What a star – still serving up hot Jesus half a century later. Pastor-in-Chief helped George W Bush hear voices. Don't mention anti-Semitic indiscretions of the 1970s.

Salary package from Bill Graham Evangelistic Organization "modest" by Jesus Inc. standards (estimated at $450,000.) Instead, Billy basks in the presence of the rich, famous and powerful.

In 1999 Billy Graham Newspapers estimated Graham's Christian empire, which had over 10 million followers, grossed $100 million annually.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#8 Apr 7, 2013
Just another reason he was a one term president :)
Imhotep wrote:
And how does this affect our elected leaders is the question?

Answer

"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
~ George Herbert Walker Bush
Jennifer

Murrieta, CA

#9 Jun 18, 2013
RW's son was bipolar. I know several families who attend Saddleback Church and it was well known that their son had bipolar illness and was under the care of psychiatrists. He had been in and out of treatment facilities. I don't think he was gay.

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