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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

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"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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#1905 Jan 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
You do know spam has pork in it?
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Spam the tinned meat ? maybe some brands
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#1906 Jan 9, 2014
Have you a non-ham example?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29
hazem selawi wrote:
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Spam the tinned meat ? maybe some brands

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1907 Jan 9, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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Spam the tinned meat ? maybe some brands
So you do eat pork after all

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
http://uk.ask.com/question/what-is-spam-meat-...

Perhaps this shock to your system explains why you have condescended not to bother responding to any of my recent posts that have replied to yours.
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#1908 Jan 9, 2014
Haram salami must eat a load of old bollocks too.
ChristineM wrote:
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So you do eat pork after all
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
http://uk.ask.com/question/what-is-spam-meat-...
Perhaps this shock to your system explains why you have condescended not to bother responding to any of my recent posts that have replied to yours.
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#1909 Jan 9, 2014
Igor Trip wrote:
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You're missing the point. If there's no evidence for the Moses story then the Torah, Bible and Quran must be wrong.
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What makes you think that Dr. Maurice Bucaille opinion is better than all those other scientists who disagree with him? This is the guy who didn't know salt was used to help mummify Pharaohs.
I doubt if Maurice Bucaille ever converted to Islam & neither did Keith Moore of Toronto. What happened was both these charlatans received huge payments for purporting their theory.

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#1912 Jan 9, 2014
Igor Trip wrote:
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If stories are so vague they can have many interpretations then how can we learn anything from them? How can we know if they're even true?
if we take the Arabic Grammar and vocabulary rules in consideration, And authentic Hadiths stories won't be vague anymore, every small detail should fit perfectly.
Igor Trip wrote:
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I have read the story and I get the moral, which is that just because we don't understand what God does doesn't mean he doesn't have a reason.
That's fine except how are we suppose to tell Gods plan from a purely natural godless world when they both look the same?
I suppose you will never know what god's plan is, and at the same time no matter what you do you would still be a part of that plan, there is something called al Qadaa wa Al qadar (the Divine will and decree) its one of the 6 pillars of faith, if any Muslim doesn't believe in (the Divine will and decree) he will immediately lose his Islam.

Just look back at your life and try to remember how many little details and decisions drove you to what you are today, what if your father showed up 10 seconds late and couldn't meet your mother ? or took some kind of a decision and left the country ? what if your grandfather
Just didn't get married ? do you think its a coincidence that you came to this life ??

I believe everything is already planned and I Just don't believe in coincidences.

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#1913 Jan 9, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Have you a non-ham example?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_%28food%29
<quoted text>
you can find pork in my country , Christians eat ham although their Bible says they shouldn't.
We have lots of kinds of tinned meat but beef instead of Ham.
I never tasted Ham before and never will, is there a difference in the taste of ham and chickenor beef??

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#1914 Jan 9, 2014
Mahmood wrote:
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Allah is merciful only on his own terms. Other than that, Richard Dawkins hit the nail on the head about Allah - vengeful, jealous, sadistic, demanding & unjust. What sort of a "god" is this who is so desperate & in need for worship? This god is nothing but a product of a human mind. Men for eons have questioned how this world came into being, who controls the climate, who created humans and animals, and with all these questions in mind, they formulated the concept of "God". But that is not all, they went a step further & formed what we call organized cults aka religion.
Allah states in the Quran in numerous verses that if the whole Jinn and men gathered and worshiped him day and night that would never be beneficial nor Harmful.

Allah may be merciful on his own terms, but what are these terms ?!!
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#1915 Jan 10, 2014
Pork can taste and behave like turkey sometimes. In the UK in the winter months, many of us cook a big Sunday roast and there's usually some left over. Pork's my least favourite roast because if you don't eat it immediately, it can get awfully dry whereas you can cook beef and lamb much less and so they are still moist the next day. I don't find chicken that interesting but if you marinate it, or put some garlic butter under the skin before cooking, it's ok.

Actually, I don't each much pork but I glaze off hams (gammons) for my friend's parties several times a year. I cook them in cider first, then glaze them with English mustard and demerara. They always get eaten too fast for me to have any. I have a Polish friend that was working in Riyadh. Whenever she came back from Saudi I had to give her this dish or she'd sulk. If you go to the German speaking countries, and Eastern Europe, you will see that pork is the dominant meat there.

A smoked bacon sandwich on good French bread with soft cheese is one of the greatest breakfasts you can imagine. Pork also makes the best sausages. My local butcher prepares his own. I might try venison, and Marmite, blue cheese but I will always come back to the plain, unadulterated pork.

What's your favourite meal?
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
you can find pork in my country , Christians eat ham although their Bible says they shouldn't.
We have lots of kinds of tinned meat but beef instead of Ham.
I never tasted Ham before and never will, is there a difference in the taste of ham and chickenor beef??

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#1917 Jan 10, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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if we take the Arabic Grammar and vocabulary rules in consideration, And authentic Hadiths stories won't be vague anymore, every small detail should fit perfectly.
They should fit perfectly but I'm not convinced they do.
hazem selawi wrote:
I suppose you will never know what god's plan is, and at the same time no matter what you do you would still be a part of that plan, there is something called al Qadaa wa Al qadar (the Divine will and decree) its one of the 6 pillars of faith, if any Muslim doesn't believe in (the Divine will and decree) he will immediately lose his Islam.
But if God's plan looks like no plan then maybe there is no plan.
hazem selawi wrote:
Just look back at your life and try to remember how many little details and decisions drove you to what you are today, what if your father showed up 10 seconds late and couldn't meet your mother ? or took some kind of a decision and left the country ? what if your grandfather
Just didn't get married ? do you think its a coincidence that you came to this life ??
I believe everything is already planned and I Just don't believe in coincidences.
If my mother had never met my father she would have married someone else and had different children and those children would grow up to contemplate their existence, but they don 't exist, I do.
This is purely down to luck. Children are going to be born. If it wasn't us then it would be others. We are just the lucky ones.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1918 Jan 10, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Pork can taste and behave like turkey sometimes. In the UK in the winter months, many of us cook a big Sunday roast and there's usually some left over. Pork's my least favourite roast because if you don't eat it immediately, it can get awfully dry whereas you can cook beef and lamb much less and so they are still moist the next day. I don't find chicken that interesting but if you marinate it, or put some garlic butter under the skin before cooking, it's ok.
Actually, I don't each much pork but I glaze off hams (gammons) for my friend's parties several times a year. I cook them in cider first, then glaze them with English mustard and demerara. They always get eaten too fast for me to have any. I have a Polish friend that was working in Riyadh. Whenever she came back from Saudi I had to give her this dish or she'd sulk. If you go to the German speaking countries, and Eastern Europe, you will see that pork is the dominant meat there.
A smoked bacon sandwich on good French bread with soft cheese is one of the greatest breakfasts you can imagine. Pork also makes the best sausages. My local butcher prepares his own. I might try venison, and Marmite, blue cheese but I will always come back to the plain, unadulterated pork.
What's your favourite meal?
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I don’t know about Hazam but I do like pork, We have it with Sunday dinner at least once per month (we usually have a big breakfast and skip Sunday lunch), there is never any leftover to go dry.

Not so enthusiastic about ham though, supermarket ham it tends to be flavourless and pumped up with so much water you may as well just have a glass from the tap. Deli ham does make fine sandwiches.

Smoked bacon sandwiches – mmmmm – I could eat one right now. It’s one of the things I’ll will really miss when I move to France but I have high hopes that the chef at the local food boutique will make good used of his smoker for me. The pre packed wafer thin lardons fume you get from the carrefour chiller shelves bares no comparison to real smoked Danish (as opposed to supermarket smoke flavour liquid).. Try it with goats cheese and warm sliced fig.

Have you tried wild boar sausage? Bowland fell wild boar park supplies my butcher. Strong flavour, extremely enjoyable.
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#1919 Jan 10, 2014
I'm sure he's eaten some without knowing. Some muslims say eating pork accidentally or when there is nothing else to eat is no biggie anyway. Somali born BBC reporter Rageh Omaar did a piece on Turkish muslim boar hunters up in the hills. He was astonished that these Turks said it was OK for muslims to eat boar because allah had put them there to be eaten. He's OK reporting on atrocities, but this had him really perplexed.

Do you separate off the crackling part way through the roasting process? Do you, like me, serve Yorkshire pudding with all roasts? Mine are rising so tall now, they take the whole of the top oven up. I think my other issue with a pork roast is that I have to add a meat stock to make a decent gravy when I deglaze the baking tray. My lamb, chicken and beef gravies are always better.

I don't buy sliced ham from the supermarket unless it is really high end. Morrisons sell a hot gammon shank for £3.45 but you can tell it has been injected with salt water from the pink colour. That meat should be beige/grey. I'm told my glazed off gammons are very good, though.

I use lardons in cooking other things. Halved Brussels, parboiled, drained, and finished off in a pan with lightly fried lardons is an excellent accompaniment to any roast.

My wife doesn't like figs with cheese, so I make do with quince. Our friends brought over honey infused with truffle oil for our last cheese fest. Too overpowering, but I couldn't help but going back for more. I think the only cheese it would struggle to smother is Stinking Bishop.

I'm a bit fussy about strong tasting sausages, so I steer away from boar and venison. I need to know what goes in my food, so I always get my local butcher to make them.
ChristineM wrote:
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I don’t know about Hazam but I do like pork, We have it with Sunday dinner at least once per month (we usually have a big breakfast and skip Sunday lunch), there is never any leftover to go dry.
Not so enthusiastic about ham though, supermarket ham it tends to be flavourless and pumped up with so much water you may as well just have a glass from the tap. Deli ham does make fine sandwiches.
Smoked bacon sandwiches – mmmmm – I could eat one right now. It’s one of the things I’ll will really miss when I move to France but I have high hopes that the chef at the local food boutique will make good used of his smoker for me. The pre packed wafer thin lardons fume you get from the carrefour chiller shelves bares no comparison to real smoked Danish (as opposed to supermarket smoke flavour liquid).. Try it with goats cheese and warm sliced fig.
Have you tried wild boar sausage? Bowland fell wild boar park supplies my butcher. Strong flavour, extremely enjoyable.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1920 Jan 10, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I'm sure he's eaten some without knowing. Some muslims say eating pork accidentally or when there is nothing else to eat is no biggie anyway. Somali born BBC reporter Rageh Omaar did a piece on Turkish muslim boar hunters up in the hills. He was astonished that these Turks said it was OK for muslims to eat boar because allah had put them there to be eaten. He's OK reporting on atrocities, but this had him really perplexed.
Do you separate off the crackling part way through the roasting process? Do you, like me, serve Yorkshire pudding with all roasts? Mine are rising so tall now, they take the whole of the top oven up. I think my other issue with a pork roast is that I have to add a meat stock to make a decent gravy when I deglaze the baking tray. My lamb, chicken and beef gravies are always better.
I don't buy sliced ham from the supermarket unless it is really high end. Morrisons sell a hot gammon shank for £3.45 but you can tell it has been injected with salt water from the pink colour. That meat should be beige/grey. I'm told my glazed off gammons are very good, though.
I use lardons in cooking other things. Halved Brussels, parboiled, drained, and finished off in a pan with lightly fried lardons is an excellent accompaniment to any roast.
My wife doesn't like figs with cheese, so I make do with quince. Our friends brought over honey infused with truffle oil for our last cheese fest. Too overpowering, but I couldn't help but going back for more. I think the only cheese it would struggle to smother is Stinking Bishop.
I'm a bit fussy about strong tasting sausages, so I steer away from boar and venison. I need to know what goes in my food, so I always get my local butcher to make them.
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I kind of like Rageh Omaar’s reports he does seem to find the unexpected.

I have a few muslims working for me and most will eat pork (if no one is looking). We used to have a jewish friend who turned up for breakfast of bacon sandwiches every Saturday after synagogue. My dad used to rib him over the hypocrisy and he always replied (with a strong jewish accent)“But hypocrisy never tested so good”

We never have the fat scored so I rarely get crackling (unless the oven is playing up). I always remove the fat before serving anyway, got to look after my weight and Pauls cholesterol. Shame really because as a child I used to love the crackling. Yorkshire puds always, it took me years to get them to rise properly. Roast potatoes and couple of seasonal veg and always apple sauce with pork. Gravy is something else, I only use the juices from beef, not comfortable with other meats, same cholesterol problem, but beef gravy is so nice it’s worth defying the doctor for. However I make it I always use the water from cooking the veg.

What!!!– WHAT!!! Your wife doesn’t like figs with cheese – wow,- actually it must be goats cheese, the tastes clash with any other. I discovered a few weeks ago why you cannot get decent cheese in america, it seems that there is a federal law that prevents the use of raw milk products. This explains why most american cheese tastes like plastic. Last time I was there I saw a can of spay on cheese – Say what???

Yup my butcher makes his own sausage too. It’s the only place for miles where you can get hung game still in the feathers. I had a wild boar pate in a restaurant in L'Ancienne Auberge in Puycelci last year, it was absolutely wonderful.
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#1921 Jan 10, 2014
The best cheeses are unpasteurised and made in small volumes. My wife brought back a goat's cheese made by her friend in the village she grew up in near Parthenay. It was wrapped in a big leaf. Tasted brilliant.
ChristineM wrote:
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I kind of like Rageh Omaar’s reports he does seem to find the unexpected.
I have a few muslims working for me and most will eat pork (if no one is looking). We used to have a jewish friend who turned up for breakfast of bacon sandwiches every Saturday after synagogue. My dad used to rib him over the hypocrisy and he always replied (with a strong jewish accent)“But hypocrisy never tested so good”
We never have the fat scored so I rarely get crackling (unless the oven is playing up). I always remove the fat before serving anyway, got to look after my weight and Pauls cholesterol. Shame really because as a child I used to love the crackling. Yorkshire puds always, it took me years to get them to rise properly. Roast potatoes and couple of seasonal veg and always apple sauce with pork. Gravy is something else, I only use the juices from beef, not comfortable with other meats, same cholesterol problem, but beef gravy is so nice it’s worth defying the doctor for. However I make it I always use the water from cooking the veg.
What!!!– WHAT!!! Your wife doesn’t like figs with cheese – wow,- actually it must be goats cheese, the tastes clash with any other. I discovered a few weeks ago why you cannot get decent cheese in america, it seems that there is a federal law that prevents the use of raw milk products. This explains why most american cheese tastes like plastic. Last time I was there I saw a can of spay on cheese – Say what???
Yup my butcher makes his own sausage too. It’s the only place for miles where you can get hung game still in the feathers. I had a wild boar pate in a restaurant in L'Ancienne Auberge in Puycelci last year, it was absolutely wonderful.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1922 Jan 10, 2014
Thinking wrote:
The best cheeses are unpasteurised and made in small volumes. My wife brought back a goat's cheese made by her friend in the village she grew up in near Parthenay. It was wrapped in a big leaf. Tasted brilliant.
<quoted text>
There is a farmer near my place in France, I get my goats cheese from there. I once caused a panic at Limoges airport. I put 6 rounds of cheese in cling film and packed them in an empty biscuit box to protect my clothes etc. A “new” customs clerk dragged them out of my back pack, peered in the box and though it was explosive.

I don’t bring fresh food in any more.
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#1923 Jan 10, 2014
And why has she packed them next to a bundle of candles covered in wires with a digital watch attached?
ChristineM wrote:
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There is a farmer near my place in France, I get my goats cheese from there. I once caused a panic at Limoges airport. I put 6 rounds of cheese in cling film and packed them in an empty biscuit box to protect my clothes etc. A “new” customs clerk dragged them out of my back pack, peered in the box and though it was explosive.
I don’t bring fresh food in any more.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1924 Jan 10, 2014
Thinking wrote:
And why has she packed them next to a bundle of candles covered in wires with a digital watch attached?
<quoted text>
LOL – no candles and the watch (not digital) was on my wrist
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#1925 Jan 10, 2014
At the end of the 90s, my wife and I worked at a tech company. We built a "bomb" out of candles, a wiring harness and an old Swatch and taped it to the rear spoiler of a BX owned by an ex British Army guy with a strong Northern Irish accent. He drove it 20 miles home before finding it the next morning.

He was always doing crazy things to us so he took it really well. His wife, however, hit the roof. Apparently his friend was the last Army guy to get blown up by the IRA cowards and we should know better. The Northern Irish guy defused(!) the situation by saying, "Yes, but he was a di**head."

Post 9/11, we just can't have this harmless sort of pretend bomb making fun any more.

ChristineM wrote:
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LOL – no candles and the watch (not digital) was on my wrist
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#1926 Jan 10, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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Allah states in the Quran in numerous verses that if the whole Jinn and men gathered and worshiped him day and night that would never be beneficial nor Harmful.
Allah may be merciful on his own terms, but what are these terms ?!!
The condition is that one has to accept Mohammad that Allah's final messenger or else!!

When a person converts to Islam, the individual has to invoke the name of Mohammad. That is why I keep screaming that Allah is Mohammad's alter ego. Submission to Allah = Submission to the cult of Mohammad.

Since: Oct 13

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#1927 Jan 10, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Pork can taste and behave like turkey sometimes. In the UK in the winter months, many of us cook a big Sunday roast and there's usually some left over. Pork's my least favourite roast because if you don't eat it immediately, it can get awfully dry whereas you can cook beef and lamb much less and so they are still moist the next day. I don't find chicken that interesting but if you marinate it, or put some garlic butter under the skin before cooking, it's ok.
Actually, I don't each much pork but I glaze off hams (gammons) for my friend's parties several times a year. I cook them in cider first, then glaze them with English mustard and demerara. They always get eaten too fast for me to have any. I have a Polish friend that was working in Riyadh. Whenever she came back from Saudi I had to give her this dish or she'd sulk. If you go to the German speaking countries, and Eastern Europe, you will see that pork is the dominant meat there.
A smoked bacon sandwich on good French bread with soft cheese is one of the greatest breakfasts you can imagine. Pork also makes the best sausages. My local butcher prepares his own. I might try venison, and Marmite, blue cheese but I will always come back to the plain, unadulterated pork.
What's your favourite meal?
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it seems like you are a professional cook, I dunno if anyone told you about or tried the traditional Jordanian dish when you came here , our traditional dish is called MANSAF and its made of lamb cooked in a sauce of fermented dried yogurt and served with rice and you can add some nuts on the top of the dish, it's really tasty and usually cooked at special events.

you should try to cook it someday , here are the ingredients http://mansaf.org/en-mansaf.htm
But I am not sure if you can find Jameed in your country.

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