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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3049 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1860 Jan 7, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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give me one verse from the Quran or one authentic Hadith that makes the world uglier ??
actually Islam makes the world a better place but you are just missing the big picture.
How’s about Quran 2:191-193 and 3:56 and 8:12 and the hundreds of other verses that promote violence against people who do not think your god is worth killing for

Or how about Sura 2:228 –“Of course, men are a degree above them (women) in status

And Maududi, vol. 1, p. 329 - Men are managers of the affairs of women because Allah has made the one superior to the other.

And Sura 4:11 - The share of the male shall be twice that of a female .

All make the world an uglier place.

Of course is you bigger picture involved killing those who don’t think as you do and want to subjugate and demean women than you are on to a winner eh?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1861 Jan 7, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said that I am not tolerant with other points of view and you certainly dont represent
the half of the world, if you have A feeling of inferiority its not my problem, i never said anything that Reduces the value of women, so stop putting words in my mouth.
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I mentioned Adam, Edris,Noh , Houd and Saleh as prophets before Abraham, so you cannot call the creator the Abarahamic god because obviously there were numerous prophets before Abraham, Some hadiths state that there are 124,000 prophets were sent to different nations and tribes, even some prophets may existed at the same time, maybe because the communication between people wasn't as easy as it is today.
we don't have to prove the existence of any previous prophet, their stories may have reached us as an exhortation or as beneficial lessons.
Honey, I am female so you are correct, it is very slightly less than half the world population. And no inferiority involved, juts because I don’t like the way you faith considers women does not mean I have an inferiority complex but that you faith (that you follow assiduously) brands women as inferior. What seems to be upsetting you to the point of vomiting such misinformed lies is that I upset your sensibilities and I am able and willing to speak up about your misogynistic faith and actions, a point that you for some reason consider to be aggressive and rude. I wonder if I happened to agree with your brand of intolerance would your opinion be the same?(or at least half the same, after all I am only a woman)

Then why do you repeatedly keep on and on abusing and bad mouthing (and lying about) my personality because it differs from your ideal do you claim to be tolerant of other points of view? Honey, you said the words, I am putting nothing in your mouth, you can of course try wriggling out of it (as is your way) but that makes no difference to the facts.

You are so inured to your brand of misogynistic behaviour that you are not even aware of the gender hatred you portray. And no, not just to me but I have noticed it when you have referred to other females too.

Yes I can call the god you believe in the abrahmic god because that is what your god is generally known as. Just because a book compiled in the 6th century claims it knows (without evidence) of stories 4000 years earlier does not actually make those claims factual.

I don’t actually give a damn what any hadiths say especially when you manipulate and interpret as you choose, what I do care about is evidence and of that you have NONE.

Well this is the thing, if you want to make statements and claim them as truth then you have to prove that what you are claiming is truth otherwise all you have is personal belief and nothing more. Now you are welcome to your personal beliefs but don’t for a moment think that everyone else should have the same beliefs, that is nothing more than egotistical condescension. And don’t for a moment try portraying those beliefs as truth without evidence otherwise all that happens is you get a reputation as a liar.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1862 Jan 7, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Another major problem with your personality is that you talk about my wife as a mere chattel. She has her own opinions. The last time male attention made her feel uncomfortable was when we were last in a muslim country - namely Egypt.
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That’s hazam for you, if he did not keep publicly displaying such misogyny then my time here would be done.

Can he be forgiven for acting in such a way? No because it’s his personal choice to act that way so he should be man enough to accept the results of his choice (so strange that he is not man enough eh?)

I’ve been to several Muslim countries and have also been subject to the uncomfortable feeling and physical abuse (bottom pinching etc) that is to be expected. The trouble is that if you retaliate (heels to the instep or knee to the crotch etc) all hell breaks loose and it is the woman at fault and that gets very scary.

I have also felt pretty uncomfortable in one or two mid west USA redneck bars but at least I was not assaulted there.
Thinking

Stalbridge, UK

#1863 Jan 7, 2014
My wife had similar in Egypt. You both want to tw*t Terry Towelhead but you know you're visiting a corrupt country with little concept of right and wrong.

Do you think it is taking the koran seriously that turns so many muslim men into perverts, or do you think they would be that way without the koran? I look at all the muslim paedophile rings that are finally being broken up in the UK and it is ever more clear that women's rights are endangered by islam.

Oh, btw, there's a new Saudi Towelhead posting that Female Genital Mutilation in his culture is an "honour". After first denying it existed at all.
ChristineM wrote:
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That’s hazam for you, if he did not keep publicly displaying such misogyny then my time here would be done.
Can he be forgiven for acting in such a way? No because it’s his personal choice to act that way so he should be man enough to accept the results of his choice (so strange that he is not man enough eh?)
I’ve been to several Muslim countries and have also been subject to the uncomfortable feeling and physical abuse (bottom pinching etc) that is to be expected. The trouble is that if you retaliate (heels to the instep or knee to the crotch etc) all hell breaks loose and it is the woman at fault and that gets very scary.
I have also felt pretty uncomfortable in one or two mid west USA redneck bars but at least I was not assaulted there.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1864 Jan 7, 2014
Thinking wrote:
My wife had similar in Egypt. You both want to tw*t Terry Towelhead but you know you're visiting a corrupt country with little concept of right and wrong.
Do you think it is taking the koran seriously that turns so many muslim men into perverts, or do you think they would be that way without the koran? I look at all the muslim paedophile rings that are finally being broken up in the UK and it is ever more clear that women's rights are endangered by islam.
Oh, btw, there's a new Saudi Towelhead posting that Female Genital Mutilation in his culture is an "honour". After first denying it existed at all.
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It’s the quran that defines the culture so should the blame lie with the book? I don’t really know but at least part of the blame must lie with the individuals who are responsible for their own actions, they cannot blame allah for their choices in life.

As for the sicko promoting FGM, perhaps he needs his balls cutting off (from the neck down) just to show him how much of an honour being mutilated is.

As you probably know, Lancashire is a pretty heavy Muslim area, for the most part they are law abiding citizens however there are some who refuse to admit they live in the UK and the law is slowly catching up with them.

OK, this part may shock you but is does help show you who and why I am who I am.

Not many years ago I was a victim of a similar (no paedophilia involved) ring, they used threats to my children to keep me in line. They were not Muslim though, they were good christians.
When my twins were still in their pushchair, two men, one pushed me into a wall and held me while the other launched the pushchair into a busy road. Only the quick action of a young teenager saved them from the front wheel of a bus. The men ran off giggling into a church where they escaped, the vicar denied all knowledge of them.
I was peripheral in the Manchester bombing, shrapnel in my eye and thumb, I was with my aunt who held me by my shoulders to comfort me. The blast dislodged a slate from the roof of the building we were outside, the slate neatly carved 8 inches of flesh to the bone from her arm. That terrorist atrocity was the work or christians.
As a child I attended church regularly. It was soon noted that I was unable to read the babble,(dyslexia). The mockery and abuse I endured for several years drove me from the good christian church. A couple of years ago the vicar tracked me down and asked if I would return, can you imagine my response?

Although some (not all by any means) Muslim men tend to be misogynist by tradition I have never had more than speculative looks, perverted comments and a sore/bruised bottom from them. Christians on the other hand ….
Lnc

United States

#1865 Jan 7, 2014
Thinking wrote:
My wife had similar in Egypt. You both want to tw*t Terry Towelhead but you know you're visiting a corrupt country with little concept of right and wrong.
Do you think it is taking the koran seriously that turns so many muslim men into perverts, or do you think they would be that way without the koran? I look at all the muslim paedophile rings that are finally being broken up in the UK and it is ever more clear that women's rights are endangered by islam.
Oh, btw, there's a new Saudi Towelhead posting that Female Genital Mutilation in his culture is an "honour". After first denying it existed at all.
<quoted text>
Always an amusing poster...seems a bit mad most of the time since Dawkins came out as an Agnostic.
Lnc

United States

#1866 Jan 7, 2014
Something of interest to us all?

What Pope Francis Can Teach the GOP
With his softer message on gay and divorced families, the pope has figured out what the Republicans haven’t grasped—you’ve got to tone it down if you want to keep a modern flock.

When the Catholic Church eclipses the Republican Party on social policy, it’s time to start looking skyward for frogs. Yesterday, when the Vatican released the pope's latest statement offering a softer tone toward the gay community than pontiffs in the past, it suggested that the Catholic Church may have figured out what the Republican Party hasn’t yet grasped—that the fading of the institution’s flock can only truly be addressed by reversing some of the fading norms driving the flock from the fold.

And so you have, just to pick one example, failed Virginia Republican gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli saying about gay rights,“I cannot support something that I believe brings nothing but self-destruction, not only physically but of their soul.” Versus Pope Francis saying,“If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?"



Now Pope Francis has gone a step further, expressing compassion for gay families as well as families of divorce, both of which are perennial Republican targets in their puritanical and antiquated push for conservative morality.“How can we proclaim Christ to a generation that is changing?” the pope reportedly said.“We must be careful not to administer a vaccine against faith to them.” Or voting! Step aside, Reince Priebus. The pope’s words offer some wisdom for the sagging and outdated GOP.

It’s not as if I’m comparing the rhetoric of Republican Party to a liberal, feminist knitting circle. This is the Catholic Church, which still expressly believes that having gay sex is as sinful as contraception and abortion. And yet in recent years, the Catholic Church has been more forward-thinking than the Republican Party (and at times, even the Democratic Party) on issues of economic justice, immigration and the death penalty. Plus, while it wasn’t until losing the 2012 elections that the Republican Party proclaimed it was time for an “autopsy” to improve the party’s appeal to women, young people and voters of color, the Catholic Church has been actively outreaching to Latino communities since the Spanish colonization of the Americas!

Another Happy Day
Lnc

United States

#1867 Jan 7, 2014
Many seek solace in different philosophies.
Doubt if there is one road to truth.
Toleration for differing viewpoints and differing lifestyles may be a virtue.
Peace
Mahmood

Markham, Canada

#1868 Jan 7, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
what I told you was not a threat, its a fact and was proved over the years
33:57 "Indeed, those who abuse Allah and His Messenger - Allah has cursed them in this world and the Hereafter and prepared for them a humiliating punishment."
notice the verse states that Allah has cursed them in this world and the hereafter not only the hereafter.
What is the need for the almighty creator & sustainer of this universe to curse someone. Would it be fair to say that Allah is someone's alter ego.? Only an angry and upset individual will say things like that.
Thinking

Stalbridge, UK

#1869 Jan 7, 2014
I didn't know the pushchair story, that must have felt awful.

Our guide's bus got robbed in Cairo "whilst the driver was guarding it". You're not allowed to take cameras into the Egyptian museum so we'd left them in the attended bus. I was sure it was an inside job and said so. Another driver squared up to me but I didn't back down. The police were going to turn a blind eye until they realised the PR abilities of my wife were going to lose them business with the holiday operator so we magically we got £8k of Leica back the next week, although we lost phones, memory sticks and sunglasses. In order to get the camera back, my wife had to buy the right to reside in Egypt in order to file legal papers. The cost:£3. I've never seen bureaucracy like it.

A couple of years ago I got threatened in a petrol station by a fat weirdy beardy and his obligatory skinny mate for wearing this t-shirt:

http://www.redmolotov.com/catalogue/tshirts/g...

So I have had more grief with muslims. But living in the Chilterns I don't have to see many of them. If I go into High Wycombe, my experiences with muslims have been good and it is very clear that the youngsters are not nearly into their religion as much as their parents are. Adherence will fade in a generation or so like it has with christianity.
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
It’s the quran that defines the culture so should the blame lie with the book? I don’t really know but at least part of the blame must lie with the individuals who are responsible for their own actions, they cannot blame allah for their choices in life.
As for the sicko promoting FGM, perhaps he needs his balls cutting off (from the neck down) just to show him how much of an honour being mutilated is.
As you probably know, Lancashire is a pretty heavy Muslim area, for the most part they are law abiding citizens however there are some who refuse to admit they live in the UK and the law is slowly catching up with them.
OK, this part may shock you but is does help show you who and why I am who I am.
Not many years ago I was a victim of a similar (no paedophilia involved) ring, they used threats to my children to keep me in line. They were not Muslim though, they were good christians.
When my twins were still in their pushchair, two men, one pushed me into a wall and held me while the other launched the pushchair into a busy road. Only the quick action of a young teenager saved them from the front wheel of a bus. The men ran off giggling into a church where they escaped, the vicar denied all knowledge of them.
I was peripheral in the Manchester bombing, shrapnel in my eye and thumb, I was with my aunt who held me by my shoulders to comfort me. The blast dislodged a slate from the roof of the building we were outside, the slate neatly carved 8 inches of flesh to the bone from her arm. That terrorist atrocity was the work or christians.
As a child I attended church regularly. It was soon noted that I was unable to read the babble,(dyslexia). The mockery and abuse I endured for several years drove me from the good christian church. A couple of years ago the vicar tracked me down and asked if I would return, can you imagine my response?
Although some (not all by any means) Muslim men tend to be misogynist by tradition I have never had more than speculative looks, perverted comments and a sore/bruised bottom from them. Christians on the other hand ….
Mahmood

Markham, Canada

#1870 Jan 7, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
yes I think that was what Islam is all about, generally speaking.
check those Hadiths of Mohammed
A man questioned the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and said,“Do you think that if I perform the obligatory prayers, fast in Ramadhan, treat as lawful that which is halal, and treat as forbidden that which is haram, and do not increase upon that [in voluntary good deeds], then I shall enter Paradise?” He (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) replied,“Yes.”[Muslim]
the 40 Nawawi Hadiths of Prophet Mohammed, those 40 hadiths may be the most important hadiths and all of them are authentic
http://sunnah.com/nawawi40
I think it comes naturally, whatever feels as the right thing to do you'll find out that it was taught in Islam 1400 years ago.
91:7-8 "And [by] the soul and He who proportioned it
And inspired it [with discernment of] its wickedness and its righteousness,
I do not trust hadiths especially when they are collected hundreds of years after the death of Mohammad. What I am looking for is a contemporary eyewitness account of Mohammad authored while he was alive. Just as people who have authored bios on Obama when he is still alive.
Jim

London, UK

#1871 Jan 7, 2014
Lnc wrote:
<quoted text>
Always an amusing poster...seems a bit mad most of the time since Dawkins came out as an Agnostic.
Creationist Cult liar who thinks the earth is 3000 years old and that Jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs.
Jim

London, UK

#1872 Jan 7, 2014
Lnc wrote:
Many seek solace in different philosophies.
Doubt if there is one road to truth.
Toleration for differing viewpoints and differing lifestyles may be a virtue.
Peace
Stupid liar is always found out,
Jim

London, UK

#1873 Jan 7, 2014
Lnc wrote:
Something of interest to us all?
What Pope Francis Can Teach the GOP
With his softer message on gay and divorced families, the pope has figured out what the Republicans haven’t grasped—you’ve got to tone it down if you want to keep a modern flock.
When the Catholic Church eclipses the Republican Party on social policy, it’s time to start looking skyward for frogs. Yesterday, when the Vatican released the pope's latest statement offering a softer tone toward the gay community than pontiffs in the past, it suggested that the Catholic Church may have figured out what the Republican Party hasn’t yet grasped—that the fading of the institution’s flock can only truly be addressed by reversing some of the fading norms driving the flock from the fold.
And so you have, just to pick one example, failed Virginia Republican gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli saying about gay rights,“I cannot support something that I believe brings nothing but self-destruction, not only physically but of their soul.” Versus Pope Francis saying,“If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?"
Now Pope Francis has gone a step further, expressing compassion for gay families as well as families of divorce, both of which are perennial Republican targets in their puritanical and antiquated push for conservative morality.“How can we proclaim Christ to a generation that is changing?” the pope reportedly said.“We must be careful not to administer a vaccine against faith to them.” Or voting! Step aside, Reince Priebus. The pope’s words offer some wisdom for the sagging and outdated GOP.
It’s not as if I’m comparing the rhetoric of Republican Party to a liberal, feminist knitting circle. This is the Catholic Church, which still expressly believes that having gay sex is as sinful as contraception and abortion. And yet in recent years, the Catholic Church has been more forward-thinking than the Republican Party (and at times, even the Democratic Party) on issues of economic justice, immigration and the death penalty. Plus, while it wasn’t until losing the 2012 elections that the Republican Party proclaimed it was time for an “autopsy” to improve the party’s appeal to women, young people and voters of color, the Catholic Church has been actively outreaching to Latino communities since the Spanish colonization of the Americas!
Another Happy Day
Creationist Tourettes Syndrome - posting offtopic religi-spam.
Lnc

United States

#1874 Jan 7, 2014
-Skeptic- does seem to assists Christians,
as an ambarrassment to Atheist.

LOL
Lnc

United States

#1875 Jan 7, 2014
Celebration of Three Kings Day expands in the USA

From East Harlem in New York to Disneyland in Southern California, many Latinos on Monday will celebrate a Christmas holiday that some believe is even bigger than December 25, the Día de los Reyes.

Three Kings Day or Día de Reyes is January 6. This day is formally the Feast of the Epiphany on the church calendar, the 12th day after Christmas, when the Gospel of Matthew says the Magi arrived bearing gifts for the divine child, Jesus.

“In the Caribbean, it’s bigger than Christmas,” says Gonzalo Casals, the Argentine-born head of El Museo del Barrio, sponsor of the East Harlem parade,“and it’s kind of like, you know, Christmas is just another thing happening before the Three Kings.”

Día de Reyes is a traditional day of celebration in Mexico and many Latin countries, as it is in many parts of the U.S., with its 50 million-plus Hispanic population.

In Mexico and other places, children receive gifts on this day, brought by the three wise men – this in addition to presents from Santa Claus.

Many Latino communities in the southwestern states mark Dia de los Reyes with festive processions.

But arguably one of the oldest of these celebrations is the one in East Harlem, which for almost four decades has been annually holding its Three Kings Day Parade with a 14-foot-tall puppet, live camels, honorary kings and a holiday feast.

“We have almost, like, 3,000 school kids joining us from different schools all over the city,” says Casals.“We have community-based organizations that are in the neighborhood and they also work with Latino community.

“We have families that, you know, let their kids, you know, not go to the school, you know, that day and just celebrate with us.”

Good news is always welcome :-)
Jim

London, UK

#1876 Jan 7, 2014
Lnc wrote:
-Skeptic- does seem to assists Christians,
as an ambarrassment to Atheist.
LOL
Whenever we insult LCN, the Creationist Cult Member, he sh*t's spam.
Lnc

United States

#1877 Jan 7, 2014
The USA is multicultural with toleration for those who have different ideas

Día de Reyes is a traditional day of celebration in Mexico and many Latin countries, as it is in many parts of the U.S., with its 50 million-plus Hispanic population.

In Mexico and other places, children receive gifts on this day, brought by the three wise men – this in addition to presents from Santa Claus.

Since: Oct 13

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#1878 Jan 8, 2014
Thinking wrote:
If you are what you eat you have clearly eaten something very stupid indeed.
<quoted text>
it seems like you spent your life eating pork
Thinking

Stalbridge, UK

#1879 Jan 8, 2014
Is this your girlfriend?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asi...

Probably a bit old for your mohammed.
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
it seems like you spent your life eating pork

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