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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3152 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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Thinking

Windsor, UK

#1537 Dec 13, 2013
I've eaten halal meat in Jordan, I would assume. It's a really cruel way to kill an animal, you copied the bleeding process from the jews. You copy from the jews a lot.
hazem selawi wrote:
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he has the right to say whatever he wants, but the problem is that he is lying, he shouldn't twist words and change facts of Islamic slaughtering and Halal meat.
Besides what harm could Halal meat make to anyone ?!! your meat is prohibited for us but our meat isn't prohibited for you , its as simple as that and its a matter of principle because we Dont eat animals slaughtered in a wrong cruel way.
Have you ever tried Halal meat ?

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#1538 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Have you ever tried Halal meat ?
No, can't say as I have.

I have never even killed a Halal.

I've had deer, squirrel, rabbit, and turtle.

A little rattlesnake. I don't mean a little rattlesnake, it was a big snake. I mean I only ate a little bit of it.

I once ate fried dog testicles by mistake. They were tough.

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#1539 Dec 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I've eaten halal meat in Jordan, I would assume. It's a really cruel way to kill an animal, you copied the bleeding process from the jews. You copy from the jews a lot.
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Did you beat your meat before you ate it?

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#1540 Dec 13, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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The difference between religion and superstition is the spelling. I don't know where you pulled this teeth brushing & cleaning business from, probably one of those unreliable hadiths. Islam introduced nothing new .
hmm, are you sure you were a muslim, you seem that you dont know the very minimum of the Basics of Islam, teeth brushing was nearly invented By Mohammed, he used something called Miswak , Miswak is preferable to be used before prayers and it was proved that Miswak contains antibacterial Materials, and for the cleaning teachings have you forgot Wudu which has to be done before each prayer among with Ghusl al Jumaa (Friday's bathroom) and Ghusl al Janaba wa Al Maheed ( the washing up after sex and after periods for girls)...!!!
and for the similarities between Islam and Judaism and its completely natural because they all have the same source which is God ...!!!
Mahmood wrote:
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Most of the what is found in Islam has plagiarized from pre-Islamic sources including verses of the Koran.
that is the most stupid statement i've ever read.
Mahmood wrote:
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The foundation of all religions including Islam is based on lies, myths, & fables. We must remember that Mohammad was a revolutionary of his time & no doubt was a great man. But he was nothing more than that. True our secular society has its share of problems but so does Islam. Islam violates the tenants of democracy which we cherish, it does not accord equal rights to women and religious minorities, it seeks to impose 7th century draconian rules which does not fit our society today, it stones women for having sex with men.
you are totally brainwashed, I cannot believe that such statements are coming out from an ex-muslim, didnt your parents teach you anything about Islam ??!!

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#1541 Dec 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I've eaten halal meat in Jordan, I would assume. It's a really cruel way to kill an animal, you copied the bleeding process from the jews. You copy from the jews a lot.
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you always mix up subjects, you said that you think its a cruel way to kill an animal ?!
have you read any of the articles I sent you ?? didn't you watch the halal method way ?
and for copying from the Jews, I once heard my grandmother saying you can eat with a Jew and sleep in a christian's house, it turned out that Jews don't eat pork so we can eat with them, and Christians are friendly and would never kill a Muslim while he is sleeping unlike a Jew who might be treacherous.

if you want a fair comparison, you should compare the halal method to the other known way which is the "Captive Bolt Gun" , Halal method uses a special knife which has to be incredibly sharp and completely smooth, the knife should be able to cut smoothly and cleanly through the neck. the cut is made in a specific place in the neck, the knife cuts the nerve responsible to transfer pain to the brain and the animal loses consciousness immediately due to the sudden drop of blood pressure in the head and also guarantees a clean meat with no blood which make the meat healthier and tastier.

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#1542 Dec 13, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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No, can't say as I have.
I have never even killed a Halal.
I've had deer, squirrel, rabbit, and turtle.
A little rattlesnake. I don't mean a little rattlesnake, it was a big snake. I mean I only ate a little bit of it.
I once ate fried dog testicles by mistake. They were tough.
I tried rabbits once in Egypt and I can say am not a big fan of it, I prefer chicken ,

Awesome a squirrel , I had no idea its eatable how was it ??
lol..!! and that snake did you have it fried or grilled ??!!

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#1543 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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I tried rabbits once in Egypt and I can say am not a big fan of it, I prefer chicken ,
Awesome a squirrel , I had no idea its eatable how was it ??
lol..!! and that snake did you have it fried or grilled ??!!
Fried.

Around here, snake is an indelicacy.

Al's Salami, Hazel.
Thinking

Windsor, UK

#1544 Dec 13, 2013
Yes, I can multi task whereas all you are trying to do is sell your bronze age myth.
hazem selawi wrote:
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you always mix up subjects, you said that you think its a cruel way to kill an animal ?!
have you read any of the articles I sent you ?? didn't you watch the halal method way ?
and for copying from the Jews, I once heard my grandmother saying you can eat with a Jew and sleep in a christian's house, it turned out that Jews don't eat pork so we can eat with them, and Christians are friendly and would never kill a Muslim while he is sleeping unlike a Jew who might be treacherous.
if you want a fair comparison, you should compare the halal method to the other known way which is the "Captive Bolt Gun" , Halal method uses a special knife which has to be incredibly sharp and completely smooth, the knife should be able to cut smoothly and cleanly through the neck. the cut is made in a specific place in the neck, the knife cuts the nerve responsible to transfer pain to the brain and the animal loses consciousness immediately due to the sudden drop of blood pressure in the head and also guarantees a clean meat with no blood which make the meat healthier and tastier.

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#1545 Dec 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Yes, I can multi task whereas all you are trying to do is sell your bronze age myth.
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hahah man..!! you are doing it again , you give an info about yourself and a backfire comment at the same time, that's brilliant.

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#1546 Dec 13, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Fried.
Around here, snake is an indelicacy.
Al's Salami, Hazel.
the opinion of Hambali and Shafi'e . Both Madhab (schools of Fiqh) claim that eating snakes is prohibited because of their poisonous nature as they can be harmful to the person who eats them,
and the Maliki school of Fiqh thinks that eating snakes is lawful provided there is no danger of poison to the eater and also provided it is slaughtered in the Islamic way.
do you recommend snakes Budd ?? I think i may give it a try

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#1547 Dec 14, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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I think we previously discussed the actual Islamic teachings regarding the slavery issue, The slavery concept in Islam is way different and much better than the western concept.
Islamic teachings solved the slavery issue gradually, even alcoholism issue was solved gradually as well, the ending of slavery should have been done centuries ago, its not Islam's fault if its followers failed to apply the obvious teachings of it.
Save your lies for someone stupid enough to believe them. Islam did not solve the issue. Slavery increased under Islam. The Arab slave trade was one of the biggest and lasted for centuries. Islam only abolished slavery after the West pressured it to do so..

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#1548 Dec 14, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Eating Pork would still have numerous bad effects to one's health even if it was cooked carefully.
not to mention the awful environment pigs are raised at in the farm factories, most pigs and other animals are trapped their entire life under poor ventilation, and filth in factory farms cause such rampant disease in pigs and other animals that 70 percent of them have pneumonia by the time they’re sent to the slaughterhouse.
Blood is a very good environment for bacteria and other Parasites, the islamic method guarantees a merciful slaughtering to the animal with the least pain and also guarantees to pour all the blood out of the meat while slaughtering.
Pork is no worse than any other meat if cooked preperly.

In Britain a lot of pigs are reared outside in more human conditions.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php...

There is no way all the blood can be drained from a carcass.
I'd be surprised if more than half was actually drained.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#1549 Dec 14, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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you are making the same mistake, Quranic verses should be studied all together, there are hundreds of verses that encourage muslims and disbelievers to seek for knowledge.
I was referring just to the verse you posted which didn't support your argument.
If there are better ones then please post them.
hazem selawi wrote:
I dont blame you, your lack of knowledge in Arabic language would lead you to this conclusion, if you don't believe check the verse in Arabic and use a dictionary.
And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
http://quran.com/51/47

Still doesn’t say the heavens are still expanding.
hazem selawi wrote:
So what ?!! " Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?"
the verse doesn't say that the earth is no longer a part of the universe, the verse clearly states that the earth and the heavens were a joined entity and later were separated, it doesn't matter if the separation happened 9 billion years after the big bang or the next day , its still a result of the big bang and certainly doesn't contradict with proved scientific facts.
If you separate the heavens and the earth they are then separate.

You are claiming this verse refers to the Big Bang but it be can't because the earth formed 9 billion years later. At most it could be claimed it's referring to the creation of the earth from the heavens.
hazem selawi wrote:
its weird how you explain metaphors and accept them the way you like it, when i explained to you other verses like the depth in the seas you also failed to understand the clear metaphor, verses can carry scientific facts and behavioral lessons at the same time.
that's the beauty of the Quran, the philosophy of Quran is very complicated and at the same time very easy to memorize since tens of millions of Muslims memorized the whole book
Metaphors are tricky things. It's not always clear just what the author of the metaphor was trying to say and it's easy to read things into them that just aren't there.
They also need to work.
The Sun setting into a muddy hole doesn't work as a metaphor for a sunset. It's just too wrong.
Waves over waves does work for a storm especially as they are supposed to be layers of darkness which internal waves aren't.

Once explained metaphors should be obvious.
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#1550 Dec 14, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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hmm, are you sure you were a muslim, you seem that you dont know the very minimum of the Basics of Islam, teeth brushing was nearly invented By Mohammed, he used something called Miswak , Miswak is preferable to be used before prayers and it was proved that Miswak contains antibacterial Materials, and for the cleaning teachings have you forgot Wudu which has to be done before each prayer among with Ghusl al Jumaa (Friday's bathroom) and Ghusl al Janaba wa Al Maheed ( the washing up after sex and after periods for girls)...!!!
and for the similarities between Islam and Judaism and its completely natural because they all have the same source which is God ...!!!
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that is the most stupid statement i've ever read.
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you are totally brainwashed, I cannot believe that such statements are coming out from an ex-muslim, didnt your parents teach you anything about Islam ??!!
Okay, I will prove to you that the authors of the Koran plagiarized narratives from pre-Islamic sources. Let’s take the example of the story about the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus. The earliest version of the story comes from the Syrian bishop Jacob of Sarug (450-521). The story is either Greek or Syriac in origin which the Koran has plagiarized. The story is about Xtian youths escaping persecution from Roman Emperor Decius, went in a cave and woke up after 300 years. The authors of the Koran, took this story, made slight adjustments to it and pasted it in the Koran.

18:09- Or deemest thou that the People of the Cave and the Inscription are a wonder among Our portents ?
18:10- When the young men fled for refuge to the Cave and said: Our Lord! Give us mercy from Thy presence, and shape for us right conduct in our plight.
18:11- Then We sealed up their hearing in the Cave for a number of years.
18:12 - And afterward We raised them up that We might know which of the two parties would best calculate the time that they had tarried.
18:13 - We narrate unto thee their story with truth. Lo! they were young men who believed in their Lord, and We increased them in guidance.
18:14 - And We made firm their hearts when they stood forth and said: Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. We cry unto no God beside Him, for then should we utter an enormity.
18:15 - These, our people, have chosen (other) gods beside Him though they bring no clear warrant (vouchsafed) to them. And who doth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie concerning Allah ?
18:16 - And when ye withdraw from them and that which they worship except Allah, then seek refuge in the Cave; your Lord will spread for you of His mercy and will prepare for you a pillow in your plight.
18:17 - And thou mightest have seen the sun when it rose move away from their cave to the right, and when it set go past them on the left, and they were in the cleft thereof. That was (one) of the portents of Allah. He whom Allah guideth, he indeed is led aright, and he whom He sendeth astray, for him thou wilt not find a guiding friend.
18:18 - And thou wouldst have deemed them waking though they were asleep, and We caused them to turn over to the right and the left, and their dog stretching out his paws on the threshold. If thou hadst observed them closely thou hadst assuredly turned away from them in flight, and hadst been filled with awe of them.

Read right upto 18:26 . Looking forward to your response.

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#1551 Dec 14, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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Pork is no worse than any other meat if cooked preperly.
In Britain a lot of pigs are reared outside in more human conditions.
http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php...
you still can get trichinosis,taeniasis even if you the meat was cooked properly you would still have the rest of those worms in the meat.
Igor Trip wrote:
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There is no way all the blood can be drained from a carcass.
I'd be surprised if more than half was actually drained.
Most of the blood would get out because once the nerve is cut and the main blood artery is also cut , the rest of the muscles and organs would keep shaking as a reaction and that would lead to pump the blood back to the main artery and eventually out of the carcass, so yes it is scientifically proved.

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#1552 Dec 14, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.
http://quran.com/51/47
Still doesn’t say the heavens are still expanding.
Unfortunately I cannot write Arabic words on this thread , the arabic pronunciation for the verse 51:47
"Waalssamaa banaynaha bi-aydin wa-inna lamoosiAAoona"

lamoosiaaona , means expanding because its a present continuous verb
So god says I am the expander and still expanding
in Arabic its so obvious

you can check different translations

"AND IT IS We who have built the universe with [Our creative] power; and, verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/51/47/
Igor Trip wrote:
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If you separate the heavens and the earth they are then separate.
You are claiming this verse refers to the Big Bang but it be can't because the earth formed 9 billion years later. At most it could be claimed it's referring to the creation of the earth from the heavens.
man the Quran is a book of signs, you cannot expect it to tell you we separated the earth from the heaven and after 9 billion years we created the earth.

41:53 "We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?"

so the purpose of these signs is for the unbelievers and believers at the same time to make sure that the Quran is the truth, and to confirm the authentic prophecy of Mohammed because it would be noway he knew such facts 1400 years ago.
Igor Trip wrote:
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Metaphors are tricky things. It's not always clear just what the author of the metaphor was trying to say and it's easy to read things into them that just aren't there.
They also need to work.
The Sun setting into a muddy hole doesn't work as a metaphor for a sunset. It's just too wrong.
Waves over waves does work for a storm especially as they are supposed to be layers of darkness which internal waves aren't.
Once explained metaphors should be obvious.
layers of darkness dont explain the internal waves, it explain the state of the depth of the sea.

Or [they are] like darknesses within an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds - darknesses, some of them upon others. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. And he to whom Allah has not granted light - for him there is no light.

you are mixing up the two parts of the verse.

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#1553 Dec 14, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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Okay, I will prove to you that the authors of the Koran plagiarized narratives from pre-Islamic sources. Let’s take the example of the story about the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus. The earliest version of the story comes from the Syrian bishop Jacob of Sarug (450-521). The story is either Greek or Syriac in origin which the Koran has plagiarized. The story is about Xtian youths escaping persecution from Roman Emperor Decius, went in a cave and woke up after 300 years. The authors of the Koran, took this story, made slight adjustments to it and pasted it in the Koran.
18:09- Or deemest thou that the People of the Cave and the Inscription are a wonder among Our portents ?
18:10- When the young men fled for refuge to the Cave and said: Our Lord! Give us mercy from Thy presence, and shape for us right conduct in our plight.
18:11- Then We sealed up their hearing in the Cave for a number of years.
18:12 - And afterward We raised them up that We might know which of the two parties would best calculate the time that they had tarried.
18:13 - We narrate unto thee their story with truth. Lo! they were young men who believed in their Lord, and We increased them in guidance.
18:14 - And We made firm their hearts when they stood forth and said: Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. We cry unto no God beside Him, for then should we utter an enormity.
18:15 - These, our people, have chosen (other) gods beside Him though they bring no clear warrant (vouchsafed) to them. And who doth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie concerning Allah ?
18:16 - And when ye withdraw from them and that which they worship except Allah, then seek refuge in the Cave; your Lord will spread for you of His mercy and will prepare for you a pillow in your plight.
18:17 - And thou mightest have seen the sun when it rose move away from their cave to the right, and when it set go past them on the left, and they were in the cleft thereof. That was (one) of the portents of Allah. He whom Allah guideth, he indeed is led aright, and he whom He sendeth astray, for him thou wilt not find a guiding friend.
18:18 - And thou wouldst have deemed them waking though they were asleep, and We caused them to turn over to the right and the left, and their dog stretching out his paws on the threshold. If thou hadst observed them closely thou hadst assuredly turned away from them in flight, and hadst been filled with awe of them.
Read right upto 18:26 . Looking forward to your response.
I am very familiar with the story of AHL AL KAHF, I dont know why you jumped to the conclusion that this story was plagiarized ..!!!
The Quran contains so many stories from history, and specially for previous prophets and good people, why is that supposed to be a bad thing ?!!

I think its even a good thing that the history prove Quranic stories, there are more than 25 prophets mentioned in the Quran, and some hadiths say that there were 124,000 prophets sent by Allah to previous nations, some of these prophets and messengers were sent at the same time to different places.
the story of those people is one of my favorite stories, not to mention the numerous scientific signs in the story.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#1554 Dec 14, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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you still can get trichinosis,taeniasis even if you the meat was cooked properly you would still have the rest of those worms in the meat.
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Most of the blood would get out because once the nerve is cut and the main blood artery is also cut , the rest of the muscles and organs would keep shaking as a reaction and that would lead to pump the blood back to the main artery and eventually out of the carcass, so yes it is scientifically proved.
Cooked worms are not a health problem.

Most blood still isn't all the blood.

If the animal is shaking then it must be in distress.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#1555 Dec 14, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Unfortunately I cannot write Arabic words on this thread , the arabic pronunciation for the verse 51:47
"Waalssamaa banaynaha bi-aydin wa-inna lamoosiAAoona"
lamoosiaaona , means expanding because its a present continuous verb
So god says I am the expander and still expanding
in Arabic its so obvious
51:47 We constructed it with strength, and indeed, We (are) surely,(its) Expanders.

51:48 And the Earth, We have spread it. How are excellent the spreaders!
http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp...

Is the earth still spreading?
hazem selawi wrote:
you can check different translations
"AND IT IS We who have built the universe with [Our creative] power; and, verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/51/47/
The oldest translations don't say the heavens are still expanding. It's only later translators who do that.

M M Pickhall We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof).
Yusuf Ali With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace.
Wahiduddin Khan We built the universe with Our might, giving it its vast expanse.
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/51/47/defa...
hazem selawi wrote:
man the Quran is a book of signs, you cannot expect it to tell you we separated the earth from the heaven and after 9 billion years we created the earth.
I'm sure your God could have come up with a simple description of creation which would make sense in the 7th century as well as today.
hazem selawi wrote:
41:53 "We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?"
so the purpose of these signs is for the unbelievers and believers at the same time to make sure that the Quran is the truth, and to confirm the authentic prophecy of Mohammed because it would be noway he knew such facts 1400 years ago.
That Muhammad couldn't know these facts 1400 years ago is confirmed by the Quran not containing them.
hazem selawi wrote:
layers of darkness dont explain the internal waves, it explain the state of the depth of the sea.
Or [they are] like darknesses within an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds - darknesses, some of them upon others. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. And he to whom Allah has not granted light - for him there is no light.
you are mixing up the two parts of the verse.
And this is why I don't trust your arguments about the expanding universe because you clearly can't read a simple sentence.

The darkness (of the disbeliever) is caused (metaphorically) by the depths of the unfathomable sea, waves on waves and clouds. Hence layers of darkness. Internal waves are not a layer of darkness.

“...an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves” Those waves cover the sea so are not in it, so they aren't internal waves.

If you are going to claim miracles then you have to read the words very carefully.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#1556 Dec 14, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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Okay, I will prove to you that the authors of the Koran plagiarized narratives from pre-Islamic sources. Let’s take the example of the story about the Seven Sleepers of Ephesus. The earliest version of the story comes from the Syrian bishop Jacob of Sarug (450-521). The story is either Greek or Syriac in origin which the Koran has plagiarized. The story is about Xtian youths escaping persecution from Roman Emperor Decius, went in a cave and woke up after 300 years. The authors of the Koran, took this story, made slight adjustments to it and pasted it in the Koran.
18:09- Or deemest thou that the People of the Cave and the Inscription are a wonder among Our portents ?
18:10- When the young men fled for refuge to the Cave and said: Our Lord! Give us mercy from Thy presence, and shape for us right conduct in our plight.
18:11- Then We sealed up their hearing in the Cave for a number of years.
18:12 - And afterward We raised them up that We might know which of the two parties would best calculate the time that they had tarried.
18:13 - We narrate unto thee their story with truth. Lo! they were young men who believed in their Lord, and We increased them in guidance.
18:14 - And We made firm their hearts when they stood forth and said: Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth. We cry unto no God beside Him, for then should we utter an enormity.
18:15 - These, our people, have chosen (other) gods beside Him though they bring no clear warrant (vouchsafed) to them. And who doth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie concerning Allah ?
18:16 - And when ye withdraw from them and that which they worship except Allah, then seek refuge in the Cave; your Lord will spread for you of His mercy and will prepare for you a pillow in your plight.
18:17 - And thou mightest have seen the sun when it rose move away from their cave to the right, and when it set go past them on the left, and they were in the cleft thereof. That was (one) of the portents of Allah. He whom Allah guideth, he indeed is led aright, and he whom He sendeth astray, for him thou wilt not find a guiding friend.
18:18 - And thou wouldst have deemed them waking though they were asleep, and We caused them to turn over to the right and the left, and their dog stretching out his paws on the threshold. If thou hadst observed them closely thou hadst assuredly turned away from them in flight, and hadst been filled with awe of them.
Read right upto 18:26 . Looking forward to your response.
Sorry Mahmood but this argument doesn't work.
Muhammad is supposed to be the last of the Abrahamic prophets and as such we would expect the stories from the Bible and Jewish and Christian legends to appear in it.

The real problem is that those stories are so badly told.
They lack so many important details such as who, what, when, where and how. They're the sort of stories we would expect from someone who had heard the stories but couldn't remember the details.

The story of the sleepers of the cave is a good example of this.
What was the name of the city they fled? We don't know.
When did this happen? We don't know.
What were their names? We aren't told.

How are we supposed to check the story is true if we aren't told all this? We can't so there's no reason to believe it.

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