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"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1517 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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American hobos tend to be talented, I like that american homeless who got a big contract because of his golden voice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ExdVwfNbuVoXX
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The Quran encourage us to look for clues ,evidences and knowledge
Allah says 18:51 "I did not make them witness to the creation of the heavens and the earth or to the creation of themselves, and I would not have taken the misguiders as assistants."
The quran confirms Hubble's law about the expanding of the universe
“And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.”(Quran 51:47)
At the time of the revelation of the Quran, the word “space” was not known, and people used the word “heaven” to refer to what lies above the Earth. In the above verse, the word “heaven” is referring to space and the known universe. The verse points out that space, and thus the universe, happens to be expanding, just as Hubble’s Law states.
The Quran also confirms the Big bang theory
“Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, then We separated them, and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?”(Quran 21:30)
thus if we studied the Quran carefully we'll find the basics for nearly everything such as; psychology, astronomy, Biology, sociology, chemistry and at the same time preaches and gives laws and rules for people to succeed in this life and the after.
Can you not actually think for yourself?

The quran says this and the quran says that?

Never – I think this or I thing that – why is this? Has the quran grabbed to so hard it restricts your thought process to one book? This is the basis of a true funnymentalism

Nope you have studied the quran with specific prejudice and decided it is good if you interpret in the way that best suites you, that’s what religion does.

I am not even going to bother offering evidence or discussion against your babble because every time a logical or proven contradiction is offered you either try and obfuscate with quaranic BS, come over all incredulous or completely ignore the question. It’s seems to be the Islamic way.

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#1518 Dec 13, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Almost as much as terrorists eh?
Is it the hygiene and the flies?
No not necessarily, Pork would still be prohibited even if we raised the pigs under the perfect hygienic environment, not to mention that All your food (Meat) is prohibited to me because in western countries you dont follow the proper Islamic method in slaughtering Animals.

I dont know if you noticed A Halal meat in a supermarket, Halal meat is a meat of a slaughtered animal the Islamic way, the Islamic slaughtering method Requires multiple actions to be taken in consideration, it was proved that our method is the best for the animal and for humans health.
http://www.alquranclasses.com/islamic-slaught...

http://www.mustaqim.co.uk/halal.htm

Animals have rights and they have souls as well, the proper Islamic method is to slaughter the animal by a sharp knife and not in front of each other, the slaughtering should be done while saying Bismillah, otherwise the meat would be prohibited and we cannot eat it unless we had to and didnt have any other options.

you can easily compare our Islamic way to yours
I dont recommend this video if you were about to have your lunch
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1519 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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No not necessarily, Pork would still be prohibited even if we raised the pigs under the perfect hygienic environment, not to mention that All your food (Meat) is prohibited to me because in western countries you dont follow the proper Islamic method in slaughtering Animals.
I dont know if you noticed A Halal meat in a supermarket, Halal meat is a meat of a slaughtered animal the Islamic way, the Islamic slaughtering method Requires multiple actions to be taken in consideration, it was proved that our method is the best for the animal and for humans health.
http://www.alquranclasses.com/islamic-slaught...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ld4vFpQDkEEXX
http://www.mustaqim.co.uk/halal.htm
Animals have rights and they have souls as well, the proper Islamic method is to slaughter the animal by a sharp knife and not in front of each other, the slaughtering should be done while saying Bismillah, otherwise the meat would be prohibited and we cannot eat it unless we had to and didnt have any other options.
you can easily compare our Islamic way to yours
I dont recommend this video if you were about to have your lunch
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Most pigs are extremely hygienic (and intelligent) It’s only the way they are treated by humans that is unhygienic

Perhaps because in westeren countries people are FREE to choose

I know what Halam meat is, In Preston there are several Halal stores, and I can assure you that praying and draining the blood from an animal while flies deposit there eggs over the dripping carcass is not seen as particularly hygienic

Yes one slaughter house gets a bad name so like Muslims they are all terrorist – right? There are problems in both methods, however the FSA (Food Standards Agency) does what it can to ensure that 60 odd million people in the UK eat hygienically prepared food. Tell me does such an agency oversee the halal food preparation in your neck of the woods?

Anyway, I’m off for a long(ish) weekend, back Monday

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#1520 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Since you mentioned pork, Pork may do a serious damage to your health
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/ar...
http://arkwriter.hubpages.com/hub/porkhazards
http://www.livestrong.com/article/522101-disa...
2:173 "He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. "
6:145 "Say, "I do not find within that which was revealed to me [anything] forbidden to one who would eat it unless it be a dead animal or blood spilled out or the flesh of swine - for indeed, it is impure - or it be [that slaughtered in] disobedience, dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], then indeed, your Lord is Forgiving and Merciful."
5:3 "Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience...."
Do you know what is the difference between the islamic slaughtering of animals and your western method ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ldc4jEyxPy8XX
As long as pork is cooked properly all bacteria and worms will be killed.
That's the advice the Quran should have given.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#1521 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
The Quran encourage us to look for clues ,evidences and knowledge
Allah says 18:51 "I did not make them witness to the creation of the heavens and the earth or to the creation of themselves, and I would not have taken the misguiders as assistants."
Where does that verse tell anyone to look for evidence? It's just saying we didn't see creation.
hazem selawi wrote:
The quran confirms Hubble's law about the expanding of the universe
“And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.”(Quran 51:47)
“Expander” is not the same as “expanding”. It doesn't suggest the universe is still expanding.
hazem selawi wrote:
The Quran also confirms the Big bang theory
“Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, then We separated them, and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?”(Quran 21:30)
The Earth has never separated from the universe. It's still part of it.
The Earth formed 9 billion years after the Big Bang and so the verse can't be about that.
hazem selawi wrote:
thus if we studied the Quran carefully we'll find the basics for nearly everything such as; psychology, astronomy, Biology, sociology, chemistry and at the same time preaches and gives laws and rules for people to succeed in this life and the after.
It says the sun sets in a muddy spring and that stars are used as missiles against evil ones.
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#1522 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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So you do understand that Islam clearly condemn any violence towards civilians.
Quran 46:9 Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the apostles, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. God is the ONLY one who can judge humans"
5:32 "whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them,[even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. "
Quran 2:190 Fight in the cause of God those who start fighting you, but do not transgress limits (or start the attack); for God loveth not transgressors
No my Friend many Christians and Jews lived in the Islamic nations among with other muslims,the only difference between them was the percentage of Zakkah (muslims paid 2.5% while non-muslims paid 5% because they dont fight with muslims) Mohammed's neighbor was a Jew, Mohammed (PBUH) died and his shield was Mortgaged to that neighbor, later on Companions of Mohammed paid to close the debt.
Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 3.404 & 453 Narrated byAisha
Allah's Apostle bought some foodstuff (barley) from a Jew on credit and mortgaged his iron armor to him (the armor stands for a guarantor).
there are numerous stories that totally proves the tolerance and mercy in Islam.
Once, during his Caliphate, Ali Ibn Abi Talib (rta) lost his armour. One day, he saw a Jew in possession of an armour he recognized as his own. Ali (rta) approached the Jew and asked him to return his armour. The Jew refused to do so and, instead, demanded that the matter be settled by the reigning Muslim Qadi (judge).- to read the whole story http://hibamagazine.com/ali-rta-vs-a-jew/
That is correct, Islam not call for violence against non-combatants. However, non-violence does not mean non-combatants who do not adhere to the doctrine of Islam have the same rights as muslims. Islam is tolerant only on its own terms keeping mind that Islam is a religion of victory.

Our secular society is more tolerant than Islam. Here we can practice and preach any religion or doctrine we choose including polytheism. And we can do it without fear of persecution. I doubt if this can happen in an Islamic setting.

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#1523 Dec 13, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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As long as pork is cooked properly all bacteria and worms will be killed.
That's the advice the Quran should have given.
Eating Pork would still have numerous bad effects to one's health even if it was cooked carefully.
not to mention the awful environment pigs are raised at in the farm factories, most pigs and other animals are trapped their entire life under poor ventilation, and filth in factory farms cause such rampant disease in pigs and other animals that 70 percent of them have pneumonia by the time they’re sent to the slaughterhouse.

Blood is a very good environment for bacteria and other Parasites, the islamic method guarantees a merciful slaughtering to the animal with the least pain and also guarantees to pour all the blood out of the meat while slaughtering.

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#1524 Dec 13, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Most pigs are extremely hygienic (and intelligent) It’s only the way they are treated by humans that is unhygienic
Perhaps because in westeren countries people are FREE to choose
I know what Halam meat is, In Preston there are several Halal stores, and I can assure you that praying and draining the blood from an animal while flies deposit there eggs over the dripping carcass is not seen as particularly hygienic
Yes one slaughter house gets a bad name so like Muslims they are all terrorist – right? There are problems in both methods, however the FSA (Food Standards Agency) does what it can to ensure that 60 odd million people in the UK eat hygienically prepared food. Tell me does such an agency oversee the halal food preparation in your neck of the woods?
Anyway, I’m off for a long(ish) weekend, back Monday
The Islamic slaughtering method guarantees mercy and the least pain for animals while slaughtering, beside it pours all the blood out of the carcass, because once a sharp knife is passed through The main artery in the neck (the main and the most important artery in the the circulation system) it also cuts the nerve which is responsible to transfer pain to the brain, so all the organs of the body start to shake strongly and all the blood will head directly to the neck and out of the body.

its a perfect way of slaughtering and guarantees benefits for both parties humans and animals.
yes we do have a FSA although all Muslims have been using the same islamic way for the past 1400 years, Many researches have proved that this method is ideal.

I challenge you to find any religion that teach its followers how to slaughter animals..!!

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#1525 Dec 13, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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Where does that verse tell anyone to look for evidence? It's just saying we didn't see creation.
you are making the same mistake, Quranic verses should be studied all together, there are hundreds of verses that encourage muslims and disbelievers to seek for knowledge.
Igor Trip wrote:
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“Expander” is not the same as “expanding”. It doesn't suggest the universe is still expanding.
I dont blame you, your lack of knowledge in Arabic language would lead you to this conclusion, if you don't believe check the verse in Arabic and use a dictionary.
Igor Trip wrote:
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The Earth has never separated from the universe. It's still part of it.
The Earth formed 9 billion years after the Big Bang and so the verse can't be about that.
So what ?!! " Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?"

the verse doesn't say that the earth is no longer a part of the universe, the verse clearly states that the earth and the heavens were a joined entity and later were separated, it doesn't matter if the separation happened 9 billion years after the big bang or the next day , its still a result of the big bang and certainly doesn't contradict with proved scientific facts.
Igor Trip wrote:
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It says the sun sets in a muddy spring and that stars are used as missiles against evil ones.
its weird how you explain metaphors and accept them the way you like it, when i explained to you other verses like the depth in the seas you also failed to understand the clear metaphor, verses can carry scientific facts and behavioral lessons at the same time.
that's the beauty of the Quran, the philosophy of Quran is very complicated and at the same time very easy to memorize since tens of millions of Muslims memorized the whole book

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#1526 Dec 13, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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That is correct, Islam not call for violence against non-combatants. However, non-violence does not mean non-combatants who do not adhere to the doctrine of Islam have the same rights as muslims. Islam is tolerant only on its own terms keeping mind that Islam is a religion of victory.
Our secular society is more tolerant than Islam. Here we can practice and preach any religion or doctrine we choose including polytheism. And we can do it without fear of persecution. I doubt if this can happen in an Islamic setting.
Mahmoud put all these war laws aside, and think how could you leave a religion that taught its followers 1400 years ago how to brush their teeth, clean up themselves, how to slaughter animals the best way, to plant trees, to treat women kindly, to eat only what's best for their health, to care about the poor and orphans ....etc while other nations at the same time were swimming in ignorance and worshiping their emperors.

Islam is a code of life not only a religion, Give me any religion that competes with that..!!
our secular society have loads of errors and problems but you are not seeing them, always look up for numbers and statistics you'll be shocked.

Buck Crick

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#1527 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Do you know what is the difference between the islamic slaughtering of animals and your western method ??
No, but if you hum a few bars, I'll try to pick it up.

Hi Hazel.

Al's Salami!

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#1528 Dec 13, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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No, but if you hum a few bars, I'll try to pick it up.
Hi Hazel.
Al's Salami!
Al Salam Budd I suppose you are still trapped at home,
I've been trapped for 2 days because of a snow storm, and getting really bored
any suggestions ??
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1529 Dec 13, 2013
Time for you to meet our mate Pat Condell



Boycott halal now.
hazem selawi wrote:
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No not necessarily, Pork would still be prohibited even if we raised the pigs under the perfect hygienic environment, not to mention that All your food (Meat) is prohibited to me because in western countries you dont follow the proper Islamic method in slaughtering Animals.
I dont know if you noticed A Halal meat in a supermarket, Halal meat is a meat of a slaughtered animal the Islamic way, the Islamic slaughtering method Requires multiple actions to be taken in consideration, it was proved that our method is the best for the animal and for humans health.
http://www.alquranclasses.com/islamic-slaught...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.mustaqim.co.uk/halal.htm
Animals have rights and they have souls as well, the proper Islamic method is to slaughter the animal by a sharp knife and not in front of each other, the slaughtering should be done while saying Bismillah, otherwise the meat would be prohibited and we cannot eat it unless we had to and didnt have any other options.
you can easily compare our Islamic way to yours
I dont recommend this video if you were about to have your lunch
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#1530 Dec 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Time for you to meet our mate Pat Condell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =3gYq2DQG1zIXX
Boycott halal now.
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Every word that Pat condell said proves his stupidity and the very minimum knowledge he has for everything, so Now Halal meat is for animals killed slowly and painfully ..!!!
Wow ignorant is the best word to describe your racist ugly mate.

And why could you boycott something you already dont buy ?!!

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#1531 Dec 13, 2013
how could *

Buck Crick

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#1532 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Al Salam Budd I suppose you are still trapped at home,
I've been trapped for 2 days because of a snow storm, and getting really bored
any suggestions ??
Of course, Hazel.

Do you have skis?

We took turns sliding off the roof into the bed of a pickup truck full of snow. That was a hoot.

You could make snow cream. Kinda' like homemade ice cream.

Also, we have an underground electric dog fence and shock collar. We took turns putting on the collar and running through the fence.

And then there's always prank phone calls.

Like this:



Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1533 Dec 13, 2013
Pat Condell is not stupid, quite the reverse.

This is his feedback page. See how the believers behave.

http://www.patcondell.net/feedback/

In the dirtier parts of UK cities, some schools buy in halal meat without telling the parents of non muslims. I didn't vote for that.
hazem selawi wrote:
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Every word that Pat condell said proves his stupidity and the very minimum knowledge he has for everything, so Now Halal meat is for animals killed slowly and painfully ..!!!
Wow ignorant is the best word to describe your racist ugly mate.
And why could you boycott something you already dont buy ?!!

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#1534 Dec 13, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Of course, Hazel.
Do you have skis?
We took turns sliding off the roof into the bed of a pickup truck full of snow. That was a hoot.
You could make snow cream. Kinda' like homemade ice cream.
Also, we have an underground electric dog fence and shock collar. We took turns putting on the collar and running through the fence.
And then there's always prank phone calls.
Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =IdahyxsHwrgXX
Lol..!! Seems like you were busy the whole night

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#1535 Dec 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Pat Condell is not stupid, quite the reverse.
This is his feedback page. See how the believers behave.
http://www.patcondell.net/feedback/
In the dirtier parts of UK cities, some schools buy in halal meat without telling the parents of non muslims. I didn't vote for that.
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he has the right to say whatever he wants, but the problem is that he is lying, he shouldn't twist words and change facts of Islamic slaughtering and Halal meat.

Besides what harm could Halal meat make to anyone ?!! your meat is prohibited for us but our meat isn't prohibited for you , its as simple as that and its a matter of principle because we Dont eat animals slaughtered in a wrong cruel way.

Have you ever tried Halal meat ?
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#1536 Dec 13, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Mahmoud put all these war laws aside, and think how could you leave a religion that taught its followers 1400 years ago how to brush their teeth, clean up themselves, how to slaughter animals the best way, to plant trees, to treat women kindly, to eat only what's best for their health, to care about the poor and orphans ....etc while other nations at the same time were swimming in ignorance and worshiping their emperors.
Islam is a code of life not only a religion, Give me any religion that competes with that..!!
our secular society have loads of errors and problems but you are not seeing them, always look up for numbers and statistics you'll be shocked.
The difference between religion and superstition is the spelling. I don't know where you pulled this teeth brushing & cleaning business from, probably one of those unreliable hadiths. Islam introduced nothing new . Most of the what is found in Islam has plagiarized from pre-Islamic sources including verses of the Koran.

The foundation of all religions including Islam is based on lies, myths, & fables. We must remember that Mohammad was a revolutionary of his time & no doubt was a great man. But he was nothing more than that. True our secular society has its share of problems but so does Islam. Islam violates the tenants of democracy which we cherish, it does not accord equal rights to women and religious minorities, it seeks to impose 7th century draconian rules which does not fit our society today, it stones women for having sex with men.

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