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There are 3147 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1475 Dec 12, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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No you are completely wrong, the religion of Islam doesnt work like that and it certainly doesnt make people blindly follow what they dont know, I think it better to leave interpreting Quranic verses and extracting Rules to specialized scholars and muslim scientists, if anyone doesnt like that, he is more than welcome to study Quran and Sunnah and hold responsible in front of Allah for his own interpretation because obviously so many people would follow his/her interpretation and if he was wrong it would be a very big responsibility.
I am not wrong, yes Islam does work like that, just consider yourself for example, I mean truly consider without the fetters of religion blinding you. Oh what? You can’t do that and you don’t even see why? Could it be because religion is blinding you?

Honey, your religion allows you to lie for your god, what am I to do? Only take notice of what your religion dictates when you want me take notice to and ignore the rest? As for cowardice, you are the one who approves of suicide bombing, such a more cowardly device in unknown. And the ignorance of freedom of will is evident in every post you make, the ignorance you show in ignoring the post you don’t like is pretty ignorant too and the ignorance you proclaim of human nature is beyond belief, so yes, ignorant.

True, I am responsible for my opinions, my decisions and my life, I make these decisions based on my personal morality and the laws of the land. Unlike you I have no gods or god book to blame, and this is something else you cannot even see.

Does your faith teach – or does your faith not teach

Sura 2:228 (Women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them.

Sura 4:3 Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four.

Sura 4:11 To the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half.

Sura 4:176 Unto the male is the equivalent of the share of two females.

Sura 4:15 As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them.

Sura 40:20 And if ye wish to exchange one wife for another and ye have given unto one of them a sum of money (however great), take nothing from it.

As you say one passage may modify another and they all subjugate women and you cannot even comprehend that is does because you are blind, you deliberately ignore in the name of your god.

Unlike you I have ignored nothing you have addressed to me, as yet you have not given a valid reason for any of these verses (and many more). What you have done is said they are correct because men are better and women should be looked after (like pets), effectively reinforcing the poor treatment of women as displayed by your faith.

You are again jumping to funnymentalist conclusions based on guesswork and intolerance. Why should you feel sad? My employees work under excellent conditions and are very well paid. They have an active part in the running of the company, the janitor has been known to give a suggestion or two that have earned bonuses for him. I value each and every one of them and I know that if I treated any of them as a good Muslim treats a woman they can easily find work elsewhere, because they are the best in their field. There are very good reasons why they choose to stay, my staff turnover rate is less than 6%, which is amongst the lowest in the country and certainly the lowest in the trade. But hey, feel free to guess, it’s the funnymentalist way.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1476 Dec 12, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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allow me to give you an advice, whenever you read an article with a big Title "Suicidal bombing along with the word CIVILIANS" you can directly know that this Attack has nothing to do with Islam, I dont want this religion and am sure you don't want it either.
-Iraq: Spate of suicide bombings against civilians are crimes against humanity.
-Civilians killed as suicide bomb targets Nato forces in Afghanistan.
-Suicide bombers kill Malian civilians in upsurge in violence.
-Suicide bombers kill Malian civilians in upsurge in violence.
-Officials: 1 civilian and 2 police officers killed in suicide bombing in eastern Afghanistan.
-Four Civilians Killed in Helmand Suicide Attack.
-Syria suicide bomber kills 31 people, mostly civilians.
All these previous actions are Not acceptable and doesn't represent Islam.
what does the term Jihad mean to you ?!
if anyone mentioned the word Jihad to you, what is the first picture that crosses your mind ?
if you heard the word Muslim what comes to your mind ?
I think in both cases you'll imagine an evil guy with a big beard holding a big Ak47.
I did not ask what you rest on your chin when sucking dick because I know - Bollocks

Whether they are acceptable to you or not makes no difference to the FACT that they were suicide bombings that KILLED civilians, some were even deliberately targeted against civilians. You don’t like that part of your religion then get out, don’t just shrug your shoulders and say you don’t like it so it’s not part of your religion.

Jihad means murder all those people who don’t think like you.

Ok I know the wording of the definition may be different, toned down and politically correct, such as

Jihad – noun -(among Muslims) a war or struggle against unbelievers.

So as I said, murder all those people who don’t think like you – yes? Calling it war and killing unbeliever’s makes no difference to the fact it’s killing those you (or your faith) does not like.

And yes Muslim comes to mind because jihad is a Muslim term. Tell me have you ever heard of a Chinese jihadist, or even a none Muslim jihadist? As to whether they have beards, many, but not all muslim males do have beards. As to carrying ak47’s who knows? I have heard of cowardly jihadis males who dressed in a burka while carrying out their murders in the name of allah.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1477 Dec 12, 2013
You think your struggle is cool. I don't respect your struggle.
Hitler thought his struggle was cool. I don't respect his struggle.
I don't discriminate.
hazem selawi wrote:
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Are you really that ignorant or just faking it ?!!

Since: Oct 13

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#1478 Dec 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Honey, your religion allows you to lie for your god, what am I to do? Only take notice of what your religion dictates when you want me take notice to and ignore the rest? As for cowardice, you are the one who approves of suicide bombing, such a more cowardly device in unknown. And the ignorance of freedom of will is evident in every post you make, the ignorance you show in ignoring the post
Does your faith teach – or does your faith not teach
Sura 2:228 (Women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them in kindness, and men are a degree above them.
Sura 4:3 Marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four.
Sura 4:11 To the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half.
Sura 4:176 Unto the male is the equivalent of the share of two females.
Sura 4:15 As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them.
Sura 40:20 And if ye wish to exchange one wife for another and ye have given unto one of them a sum of money (however great), take nothing from it.
As you say one passage may modify another and they all subjugate women and you cannot even comprehend that is does because you are blind, you deliberately ignore in the name of your god.
Unlike you I have ignored nothing you have addressed to me, as yet you have not given a valid reason for any of these verses (and many more). What you have done is said they are correct because men are better and women should be looked after (like pets), effectively reinforcing the poor treatment of women as displayed by your faith.
You are again jumping to funnymentalist conclusions based on guesswork and intolerance. Why should you feel sad? My employees work under excellent conditions and are very well paid. They have an active part in the running of the company, the janitor has been known to give a suggestion or two that have earned bonuses for him. I value each and every one of them and I know that if I treated any of them as a good Muslim treats a woman they can easily find work elsewhere, because they are the best in their field. There are very good reasons why they choose to stay, my staff turnover rate is less than 6%, which is amongst the lowest in the country and certainly the lowest in the trade. But hey, feel free to guess, it’s the funnymentalist way.
your questions were asked nearly by millions of people around the world, you didn't bring any new good questions nor discovered any new thing but complete ignorance and lack of knowledge.
you'll find hundreds of thousands of articles about this specific subject.

Google women in Islam and for once try to read our point of view, Instead of walking with the rest of the herd
http://www.islamswomen.com/
http://ias.org/sufism/women-in-islam/
http://www.light-of-life.com/eng/reveal/
https://www.facebook.com/womeninislam

if you did your homework we wouldn't be having this conversation,
its really funny how people see Islam exactly the opposite way it actually is.

-The religion of peace was turned into a religion of terrorism
-The religion that guarantees even the plants rights was turned into a religion of hate and ignorance.
While the world was swimming in ignorance and corruption Mohammed (PBUH) was teaching his companions how to live their lives starting from the smallest things like hygiene to the very important issues
like wars and dealing with Prisoners.

Its not Islam's fault that you are too lazy to know the truth of it, every word comes out of your pie hole makes me admire my religion even more, since the very day you started talking my love to my prophet got bigger and bigger.

Since: Oct 13

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#1479 Dec 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
You think your struggle is cool. I don't respect your struggle.
Hitler thought his struggle was cool. I don't respect his struggle.
I don't discriminate.
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Still ignorant and have a serious lack of knowledge.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1480 Dec 12, 2013
Good that you admit you are ignorant and have a serious lack of knowledge.

&t= 79
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Still ignorant and have a serious lack of knowledge.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1481 Dec 12, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
your questions were asked nearly by millions of people around the world, you didn't bring any new good questions nor discovered any new thing but complete ignorance and lack of knowledge.
you'll find hundreds of thousands of articles about this specific subject.
Google women in Islam and for once try to read our point of view, Instead of walking with the rest of the herd
http://www.islamswomen.com/
http://ias.org/sufism/women-in-islam/
http://www.light-of-life.com/eng/reveal/
https://www.facebook.com/womeninislam
if you did your homework we wouldn't be having this conversation,
its really funny how people see Islam exactly the opposite way it actually is.
-The religion of peace was turned into a religion of terrorism
-The religion that guarantees even the plants rights was turned into a religion of hate and ignorance.
While the world was swimming in ignorance and corruption Mohammed (PBUH) was teaching his companions how to live their lives starting from the smallest things like hygiene to the very important issues
like wars and dealing with Prisoners.
Its not Islam's fault that you are too lazy to know the truth of it, every word comes out of your pie hole makes me admire my religion even more, since the very day you started talking my love to my prophet got bigger and bigger.
If so many people asked to you not think they deserve an answer?

The fact that the Quran is 1400 years old and still not be satisfactorily answered could give you a clue here.

I have googled ‘woman in Islam’ and the results confirmed my views, true there were some with success stories and I see you have included several links that validate your point so here are a few that validate mine

http://www.persepolis.nu/queens-discriminatio...
http://intentious.com/2011/09/06/7-reasons-wh...
http://www.examiner.com/list/islamic-principl...
http://www.baronessgoudie.com/2013/02/13/shar...

Oh you numbskull, I have done my homework, you just refuse to see because you are blind to anything not allah dun it and muhammad said that gabriel said that allah said

So you call me lazy because I am free to make my own decisions, Islam discriminates therefor is Islam’s fault that it discriminates, please do not blame me for the failings of your religion

And every word that comes out of your sh|t hole makes me admire British plumbing even more

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#1483 Dec 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I did not ask what you rest on your chin when sucking dick because I know - Bollocks
Whether they are acceptable to you or not makes no difference to the FACT that they were suicide bombings that KILLED civilians, some were even deliberately targeted against civilians. You don’t like that part of your religion then get out, don’t just shrug your shoulders and say you don’t like it so it’s not part of your religion.
Jihad means murder all those people who don’t think like you.
Ok I know the wording of the definition may be different, toned down and politically correct, such as
Jihad – noun -(among Muslims) a war or struggle against unbelievers.
So as I said, murder all those people who don’t think like you – yes? Calling it war and killing unbeliever’s makes no difference to the fact it’s killing those you (or your faith) does not like.
And yes Muslim comes to mind because jihad is a Muslim term. Tell me have you ever heard of a Chinese jihadist, or even a none Muslim jihadist? As to whether they have beards, many, but not all muslim males do have beards. As to carrying ak47’s who knows? I have heard of cowardly jihadis males who dressed in a burka while carrying out their murders in the name of allah.
Would you please cut the BS and tell me what is Jihad in Islam, consider yourself as a mufti and tell me exactly what Jihad is and remember to take in consideration the Authentic Islamic teachings.

I don't understand how you guys think, you are like ooh those Muslims killed civilians then that's certainly what is Jihad and Islam is about, Although those extremists do not abide the very minimum of Islam.

Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1484 Dec 12, 2013
jihad is your desire to be a pain in the arse to others. Nothing more than that. Ihren Kampf.
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you please cut the BS and tell me what is Jihad in Islam, consider yourself as a mufti and tell me exactly what Jihad is and remember to take in consideration the Authentic Islamic teachings.
I don't understand how you guys think, you are like ooh those Muslims killed civilians then that's certainly what is Jihad and Islam is about, Although those extremists do not abide the very minimum of Islam.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#1485 Dec 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
If so many people asked to you not think they deserve an answer?
The fact that the Quran is 1400 years old and still not be satisfactorily answered could give you a clue here.
I have googled ‘woman in Islam’ and the results confirmed my views, true there were some with success stories and I see you have included several links that validate your point so here are a few that validate mine
http://www.persepolis.nu/queens-discriminatio...
http://intentious.com/2011/09/06/7-reasons-wh...
http://www.examiner.com/list/islamic-principl...
http://www.baronessgoudie.com/2013/02/13/shar...
Oh you numbskull, I have done my homework, you just refuse to see because you are blind to anything not allah dun it and muhammad said that gabriel said that allah said
So you call me lazy because I am free to make my own decisions, Islam discriminates therefor is Islam’s fault that it discriminates, please do not blame me for the failings of your religion
And every word that comes out of your sh|t hole makes me admire British plumbing even more
Christine you are killing me, how is it fair that you read about Islam everywhere but not the true sources , what you are doing is like asking a plumber about the symptoms of brain cancer.

Of course those websites wouldn't give you any answers, hence those writers know nothing about the true message of Islam, they just did exactly as you did which is failing horribly to interpret a single letter of Quran and/or Sunnah.

Your lovely British plumbing gave you the right of education at the beginning of the 18th century, while our female ancestors could read and right , go to schools , testify in courts, own a property and even participate in politics and wars 1400 years ago.

we treat our women like queens but you are too blind to notice and too ignorant to understand.

Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#1486 Dec 12, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Still ignorant and have a serious lack of knowledge.
Hazem, Islam is a religion of peace only on its own terms.

Since: Oct 13

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#1487 Dec 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Good that you admit you are ignorant and have a serious lack of knowledge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =wzWthp8j4D4XX&t=79
<quoted text>
oh I am sorry I called you an old man earlier, it turned out that you are entirely immature, and your sense of humor is really really bad.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1488 Dec 12, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you please cut the BS and tell me what is Jihad in Islam, consider yourself as a mufti and tell me exactly what Jihad is and remember to take in consideration the Authentic Islamic teachings.
I don't understand how you guys think, you are like ooh those Muslims killed civilians then that's certainly what is Jihad and Islam is about, Although those extremists do not abide the very minimum of Islam.
I am not Islamic so I can only go of the DEFINITION of the word as given in English language dictionaries

Here let me give you some MORE definition as described by

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/...
(among Muslims) a war or struggle against unbelievers:

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/e...
a holy war against infidels undertaken by Muslims in defence of the Islamic faith

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jih...
a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty;

How I choose to interpret that is - murder all those people who don’t think like you.

How you want to interpret it (and modify it with other words) is up you

How we think is simple to understand, all you need just a hint of humanity

Funnily enough the Muslims that make the news are extremist, funny-mentalist terrorist murderers of civilians. True it is only a small faction of a fraction of a percent of muslims, but they are the ones getting the all the advertising for your faith.

You don’t like that fact then that’s tough, it is something you will have to live with.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1489 Dec 12, 2013
You think god's magic won't work if women don't wear bags on their heads and children's genitals need cutting.

Now that's immature.
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
oh I am sorry I called you an old man earlier, it turned out that you are entirely immature, and your sense of humor is really really bad.

Since: Oct 13

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#1491 Dec 12, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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Hazem, Islam is a religion of peace only on its own terms.
can you give us some examples ?!

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#1492 Dec 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
You think god's magic won't work if women don't wear bags on their heads and children's genitals need cutting.
Now that's immature.
<quoted text>
What do you do in your life man ?!!
I mean beside Criticizing Islam.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1493 Dec 12, 2013
islamic lobbying of the UN for a bronze age blasphemy law is my exhibit A.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_of_re...
hazem selawi wrote:
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can you give us some examples ?!

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#1494 Dec 12, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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can you give us some examples ?!
Here is one - hazem selawi
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#1495 Dec 12, 2013
I criticise other idiocy too.
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you do in your life man ?!!
I mean beside Criticizing Islam.

Since: Oct 13

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#1496 Dec 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not Islamic so I can only go of the DEFINITION of the word as given in English language dictionaries
Here let me give you some MORE definition as described by
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/...
(among Muslims) a war or struggle against unbelievers:
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/e...
a holy war against infidels undertaken by Muslims in defence of the Islamic faith
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jih...
a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty;
How I choose to interpret that is - murder all those people who don’t think like you.
How you want to interpret it (and modify it with other words) is up you
How we think is simple to understand, all you need just a hint of humanity
Funnily enough the Muslims that make the news are extremist, funny-mentalist terrorist murderers of civilians. True it is only a small faction of a fraction of a percent of muslims, but they are the ones getting the all the advertising for your faith.
You don’t like that fact then that’s tough, it is something you will have to live with.
as you said you are not a Muslim, so please stop acting like you are an expert with the religion of Islam.

As I told you before after 9/11 and the huge organized Media campaign against Islam; tens of thousands of people converted to Islam apparently those new converts unlike you were really curious about Islam and went to the trusted true sources which teach people the actual message of Islam.

but hey you are totally free to look up Islamic terms in the dictionary, I could look up Astronomical terms in your dictionary but that wouldn't make an Astronomer.

you Jumped to the conclusion that Jihad is all about killing the unbelievers, you skipped thousands of teachings, that I call complete ignorance.

yet if anyone tries to show the true message of Islam you accuse them of being liars, hypocrites and/or funny-mentalist, that I call ignorance and arrogance.



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