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There are 3146 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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#599 Nov 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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You also seem to have difficulty with the word selectively
And yet even though the quran denies the essence of christianity it is the biggest/most powerful and richest religion in the world (unfortunately) This just proves that the Quran is not as correct as you claim.
Hey I know the babble was changed, regularly not so sure about the Tanakh though and it still remains fact that the Quran is selectively copied from the Tanakh and babble. Same stories and myths that were written down hundreds, even thousands of years before you prophet was a twinkle in his dads eye, just a different interpretation.
I did mention contradiction 2 post ago and as I said it is up to you whether you feel the need to excuse them.
You come on here, a PUBLIC forum, preaching Islam, you get intelligent arguments to your preaching and so you get fractious, jeez, it’s only a faith, get over it
Christianity is certainly the biggest/most powerful and richest religion in the world that's why its divided into so many groups and that's why so many Christians are turning into atheists and maybe that's why Christians aren't going to churches anymore.
there are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world and growing.

please write down the post number because I couldn't find it, and as i told you Islam is not only a faith to me, its a system of life.

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#600 Nov 8, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
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On every level it makes sense actually.
1 God is unchanging - if a sacrifice for atonement was necessary in the past, it is necessary now.
2 The prophets are consistant on this - the true worship of God requires an atoning sacrifice.
3 The prophet Isaiah wrote (by the way, there is a manuscript of his book dating from 250 years before Christ - so this is not a Christian interpolation) that God was going to send His Servant to die for the sins of mankind. And that this religion of atonement would spread around the world.
4 Jesus Christ said He was the fulfillment of that prophecy. He died and rose again-showing that mans sins had been paid in full.
5 When I believed in Jesus as the Son of God who paid for my sins - I experienced the new birth - I knew God, and I discovered power over sin -anither phenomenon predicted by the prophets Ezekiel and Jeremiah.
6 If God created the universe He is not just great - He is beyond our imagination. He is not a small God. His holiness must be on a scale similar to His
power and wisdom. A man sized holiness requires simply more good works than bad to enter paradise. The hatred infinite holiness has against sin requires more - the only way for infinite holiness to be satisfied is for restitution to be made commensurate to the crime. That requires a God sized payment to be made. Man cannot make that pament Only God can.
So, yeah, it makes sense on every level.
Islam worships a god with a man sized holiness. He is satisfied with the same level of holiness we are satisfied with. If a person is more good than bad, we accept him. Allah is the same way. He is a god with a man sized holiness.
Alright you keep writing spiritual statements, what about the modern world problems, what solutions does Christianity offer?!!

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#601 Nov 8, 2013
And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam; and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky. Allah, the Almighty, says:[And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam; and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky.](Al-An`am: 125)

The Scientific Fact:

The formation of the atmosphere was unknown until Pascal proved its existence in 1648. He proved that air pressure decreases as we go higher above sea level.

Later on it was discovered that air in the lower layers of the atmosphere is denser. About 50 % of the air mass is located between the surface of the earth and 20,000 feet above sea level, and 90% is located between the surface of the earth and 50,000 feet above sea level.

Therefore, density decreases vertically until air reaches its utmost rarefaction (minimum pressure) in the higher layers of the atmosphere before it completely vanishes in outer space.

When a human being goes higher than ten thousand (10,000) feet above sea level, it does not cause him any serious problem, as the respiratory system can handle the height of 10,000 to 25,000 feet above sea level; however, if a person goes into outer space, the amount of pressure and oxygen decrease causing the closing of the chest and dyspnea (shortness of breath). Then, the breathing process becomes difficult because of the lack of oxygen (oxygen starvation) and the respiratory system completely fails, causing death.

Facets of Scientific Inimitability:

It is well-known that the different layers of the atmosphere were unknown at the time the Ever-Glorious Qur'an was revealed. Consequently, the low pressure and the decrease of oxygen, which is necessary for man's life, in the higher layers, were also unknown. People at that time did not know these facts; on the contrary they believed that whenever man goes higher, he will feel more serenity and happiness and enjoy the breeze.

This honorable verse clearly indicates two facts that have been only discovered lately by modern science: the first one is that dyspnea occurs when a person goes higher in the layers of the atmosphere because of the lack of oxygen and the decrease in air pressure. The second is the state that precedes choking leading to death that occurs when a person goes more than 30,000 feet above sea level. This is caused by the drastic decrease in air pressure and an extreme lack of oxygen.

the beauty of Quran is that it contains a rule and sometimes a scientific fact behind it at the same time,
The full article
http://www.eajaz.org/eajaz/index.php...
Mujahid

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#602 Nov 8, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Christianity is certainly the biggest/most powerful and richest religion in the world that's why its divided into so many groups and that's why so many Christians are turning into atheists and maybe that's why Christians aren't going to churches anymore.
there are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world and growing.
please write down the post number because I couldn't find it, and as i told you Islam is not only a faith to me, its a system of life.
Brother Hazem,

The Christians think they have a right to degrade and insult Islam and Muslims. If they ever had one authentic Bible given to Jesus from God, and they followed it, they would be much better people. They have several versions of the man written Bible, and they do not know which one to believe?. Right now, we have to be patient with them till Jesus come back and tells them the Truth.

Many of them open and read the Noble Quran, and they see the "TRUTH" and embrace Islam. So many examples.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#603 Nov 8, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam; and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky. Allah, the Almighty, says:[And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam; and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky.](Al-An`am: 125)
The Scientific Fact:
The formation of the atmosphere was unknown until Pascal proved its existence in 1648. He proved that air pressure decreases as we go higher above sea level.
You seem to presume that no one in Arabia had ever climbed a mountain.

I can assure you that everyone who has can relate to that verse.

Don't presume people were ignorant back then.

Oh and the sun still doesn't set in a muddy spring (18:86).
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#604 Nov 8, 2013
Mujahid wrote:
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..Many of them open and read the Noble Quran, and they see the "TRUTH" and embrace Islam. So many examples.
Thanks for the offer, but we prefer not to believe any religion. They are all absurd superstition. The fact is that imaginary sky people exist only in your mind, unless you can provide real evidence otherwise. The TRUTH is you and your friend are brain-washed and self-indoctrinated into religion.

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#605 Nov 8, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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You seem to presume that no one in Arabia had ever climbed a mountain.
I can assure you that everyone who has can relate to that verse.
Don't presume people were ignorant back then.
Oh and the sun still doesn't set in a muddy spring (18:86).
haha Igor trip I hope you are doing great , so lets suppose it is a coincidence and I told you sun setting in a muddy spring is a metaphor which describe the location of the west.

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#606 Nov 8, 2013
Mujahid wrote:
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Brother Hazem,
The Christians think they have a right to degrade and insult Islam and Muslims. If they ever had one authentic Bible given to Jesus from God, and they followed it, they would be much better people. They have several versions of the man written Bible, and they do not know which one to believe?. Right now, we have to be patient with them till Jesus come back and tells them the Truth.
Many of them open and read the Noble Quran, and they see the "TRUTH" and embrace Islam. So many examples.
Al Salamu alaikom Mujahid, I hope you are doing great,
where have you been ?!

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#607 Nov 8, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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haha Igor trip I hope you are doing great , so lets suppose it is a coincidence and I told you sun setting in a muddy spring is a metaphor which describe the location of the west.
It's a really lousy metaphor that makes no sense.
I'm sure your God could have written something better such as "He walked until he reached the great sea and watched the sun set beyond it.

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#608 Nov 8, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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You seem to presume that no one in Arabia had ever climbed a mountain.
I can assure you that everyone who has can relate to that verse.
Don't presume people were ignorant back then.
Oh and the sun still doesn't set in a muddy spring (18:86).
you still can try it by yourself, just try to listen to Quran in Arabic even though you don't know Arabic you still can know whether your breast will close and constrict (climbing in the Air ) or will be opened

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#609 Nov 8, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Christianity is certainly the biggest/most powerful and richest religion in the world that's why its divided into so many groups and that's why so many Christians are turning into atheists and maybe that's why Christians aren't going to churches anymore.
there are 1.8 billion Muslims in the world and growing.
please write down the post number because I couldn't find it, and as i told you Islam is not only a faith to me, its a system of life.
Nope christianity is divided into so many groups because they each want to interpret the babble differently

And Islam is clamed to be the fastest growing religion while christianity is declining although I have seen statistical validation of the decline of Christianity I have not seen any for the Islamic claim.

#556 I wrote “As a christian it makes more sense to him than anything in the quran and you must admit that even after two re-writes there are still several contradictions and inconsistencies for you to explain away”

I do not really care whether it is a faith or a way of life or a canned flying spaghetti monster, in exactly the same way as you don’t care what I believe. Just so long as you can get your preaching across you are happy and just so long as I can provide just, validated and factual counters to your preaching then I am happy. It may be a way of life to you but it is still just a belief as all religions are.

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#610 Nov 8, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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you still can try it by yourself, just try to listen to Quran in Arabic even though you don't know Arabic you still can know whether your breast will close and constrict (climbing in the Air ) or will be opened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CdMBFkwsk_UXX
Liars with no proof of god will try but fail to spread their mental illness online.

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#611 Nov 8, 2013
hazem believes that mr bean is muslim - this is all you need to know from this mentally ill religious liar.

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#612 Nov 8, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam; and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky. Allah, the Almighty, says:[And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam; and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky.](Al-An`am: 125)
The Scientific Fact:
The formation of the atmosphere was unknown until Pascal proved its existence in 1648. He proved that air pressure decreases as we go higher above sea level.
Later on it was discovered that air in the lower layers of the atmosphere is denser. About 50 % of the air mass is located between the surface of the earth and 20,000 feet above sea level, and 90% is located between the surface of the earth and 50,000 feet above sea level.
Therefore, density decreases vertically until air reaches its utmost rarefaction (minimum pressure) in the higher layers of the atmosphere before it completely vanishes in outer space.
When a human being goes higher than ten thousand (10,000) feet above sea level, it does not cause him any serious problem, as the respiratory system can handle the height of 10,000 to 25,000 feet above sea level; however, if a person goes into outer space, the amount of pressure and oxygen decrease causing the closing of the chest and dyspnea (shortness of breath). Then, the breathing process becomes difficult because of the lack of oxygen (oxygen starvation) and the respiratory system completely fails, causing death.
Facets of Scientific Inimitability:
It is well-known that the different layers of the atmosphere were unknown at the time the Ever-Glorious Qur'an was revealed. Consequently, the low pressure and the decrease of oxygen, which is necessary for man's life, in the higher layers, were also unknown. People at that time did not know these facts; on the contrary they believed that whenever man goes higher, he will feel more serenity and happiness and enjoy the breeze.
This honorable verse clearly indicates two facts that have been only discovered lately by modern science: the first one is that dyspnea occurs when a person goes higher in the layers of the atmosphere because of the lack of oxygen and the decrease in air pressure. The second is the state that precedes choking leading to death that occurs when a person goes more than 30,000 feet above sea level. This is caused by the drastic decrease in air pressure and an extreme lack of oxygen.
the beauty of Quran is that it contains a rule and sometimes a scientific fact behind it at the same time,
The full article
http://www.eajaz.org/eajaz/index.php...
Uneducated arrogant people try to claim science prove their cults.

But the fact is science disproves all cults. Science discovered evolution which your cult denies.

So you dishonest liars try to claim science as your own on one side, while deny science its discovery of evolution.

This is how you liars operate - using ignorance to cover up for your religious lies.

You attack science and then try to justify your faith with science, like the illogical mentally ill leftovers of society you are.

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#613 Nov 8, 2013
Like all cult member cowards, you will run away like a dog when asked the question 'where is the proof of god?"

"what is scientific about believing in a made up creature that science cannot detect?"

"why does your cult threaten when it cannot convert?"

All questions that religious coward liars run away from because of the mental illness they suffer from.

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#614 Nov 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Uneducated arrogant people try to claim science prove their cults.
But the fact is science disproves all cults. Science discovered evolution which your cult denies.
So you dishonest liars try to claim science as your own on one side, while deny science its discovery of evolution.
This is how you liars operate - using ignorance to cover up for your religious lies.
You attack science and then try to justify your faith with science, like the illogical mentally ill leftovers of society you are.
Islam doesnt completely Deny the evolution theory and certainly doesnt attack science.

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#615 Nov 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope christianity is divided into so many groups because they each want to interpret the babble differently
And Islam is clamed to be the fastest growing religion while christianity is declining although I have seen statistical validation of the decline of Christianity I have not seen any for the Islamic claim.
#556 I wrote “As a christian it makes more sense to him than anything in the quran and you must admit that even after two re-writes there are still several contradictions and inconsistencies for you to explain away”
I do not really care whether it is a faith or a way of life or a canned flying spaghetti monster, in exactly the same way as you don’t care what I believe. Just so long as you can get your preaching across you are happy and just so long as I can provide just, validated and factual counters to your preaching then I am happy. It may be a way of life to you but it is still just a belief as all religions are.
I dont know where you have seen these statistical validations, but I can assure you that there are over 1.8 Billion Muslims around the world that makes Muslims more than Catholics.

you keep mentioning contradictions that I have to explain away,what contradictions I tried to read your previous posts but couldn't find any and already asked you to tell me the post number

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#616 Nov 8, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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you still can try it by yourself, just try to listen to Quran in Arabic even though you don't know Arabic you still can know whether your breast will close and constrict (climbing in the Air ) or will be opened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CdMBFkwsk_UXX
As much as I love religious music (especially if I don't understand the words) I still need cold hard facts to convince me.

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#617 Nov 8, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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As much as I love religious music (especially if I don't understand the words) I still need cold hard facts to convince me.
hahah that was not religious music, thats the Quran

Since: Jul 11

Portland, OR

#618 Nov 8, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Alright you keep writing spiritual statements, what about the modern world problems, what solutions does Christianity offer?!!
This is one of the primary reasons I believe in tge God of the Bible. The death and resurrction of Jesus Christ is the most powerful force against evil I am aware of. The standard power against evil is found in all other relligions and philosphies - including atheism. That is the power to keep a good man good. Hence you have people of all religions who more or less follow the dictates of their conscience. But who has the answer for the evil man? How do you take a man marinated in evil, and make him good? Atheism cannot answer that, neither can Islam, or any other of the 3000 religions on this planet. New Birth theology does however. Those who repent of their sins, and trust Jesus alone for their salvation from sin discover a new power over the principle of evil in them that translates to a complete change in behavior. This is a common occurrance in our churches. This has real practical value for curing some of societies most troubling problems.
I have a friend who used to be a Hamas soldier, or terrorist, depending on one's point of view. He was addicted to killing and violence. He trusted Jesus as his Savior from sin, and as he put it, something brand new was planted in his heart. He threw away his guns, renounced violence, relearned to lovr, married, had children, and became a productive member of society.
I have another friend who was an agnostic, who was also addicted to rage and violence. He heard how Jesus died for his sins and rose again, and he trusted Jesus a his Savior - the very first thing he noticed was that his rage was gone.
The true God has power over evil that man does not. One would expect that His religion would then have a greater power than man's religions.

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