Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

Sep 14, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Examiner.com

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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EdSed wrote:
..Few people nowadays are really daft and ignorant enough to believe that a god sent a prophet to Earth, so people need to ask themselves why religions persist...
Hi Ed, unfortunately there are millions of theists who are daft and ignorant, and plenty of them on topix!!!
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okay, you should open your eyes and admit that we are not living in a perfect world, what solutions do the man made laws offer to the world problems ?!!
you should admit that there are so many problems humans failed to solve, millions of people are starving, hundred of thousands were killed, millions of people are alcoholic...etc
Capitalism and Communism failed to create a Stable economy while Islamic teachings and Islamic method succeeded for 1300 years
islam is kaos it attacks itself

muslims are at constant jihad against each other in every middle eastern country

islam is propaganda not truth
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<quoted text>.. I asked you what kind of proof would be acceptable to you?..
If God spoke direct to everyone in the whole world, and gave everyone the exact same message. THAT would be good proof of God's existence. We could all with confidence believe in the correct God and in the correct religion. However God's silence (assuming he wants us to be saved) and the contradictory "revelations" are proof of God's non existence.
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Hi Ed, unfortunately there are millions of theists who are daft and ignorant, and plenty of them on topix!!!
Plenty on Topix perhaps, but most people can see the insanity of religion and I think some progress is detected...
http://www.jesusandmo.net/
Remember the 'community of ideas' concept from your history lessons at school? It takes time for ideas to change.
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No, the truth of the matter is that not all but large factions of people so called civilised educated people eg politicians doctors etc that do NOT follow God are the ones that contribute to the largest ongoing massacre of all time. abortion.
I take it you are Catholic? You guys are obsessed with abortion. Kinda strange given the Bible is silent on the issue.
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Do not compare Islam to any religion, Islam has a specific rules in every aspect of life, just name it and I'll tell you what Islam offers
put aside your pride and look at the truth

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So you Believe that Jesus is the son of god or god and sacrificed himself or his only son to atone people's sins ?
Does that really make sense to you ?!
On every level it makes sense actually.
1 God is unchanging - if a sacrifice for atonement was necessary in the past, it is necessary now.
2 The prophets are consistant on this - the true worship of God requires an atoning sacrifice.
3 The prophet Isaiah wrote (by the way, there is a manuscript of his book dating from 250 years before Christ - so this is not a Christian interpolation) that God was going to send His Servant to die for the sins of mankind. And that this religion of atonement would spread around the world.
4 Jesus Christ said He was the fulfillment of that prophecy. He died and rose again-showing that mans sins had been paid in full.
5 When I believed in Jesus as the Son of God who paid for my sins - I experienced the new birth - I knew God, and I discovered power over sin -anither phenomenon predicted by the prophets Ezekiel and Jeremiah.
6 If God created the universe He is not just great - He is beyond our imagination. He is not a small God. His holiness must be on a scale similar to His
power and wisdom. A man sized holiness requires simply more good works than bad to enter paradise. The hatred infinite holiness has against sin requires more - the only way for infinite holiness to be satisfied is for restitution to be made commensurate to the crime. That requires a God sized payment to be made. Man cannot make that pament Only God can.

So, yeah, it makes sense on every level.
Islam worships a god with a man sized holiness. He is satisfied with the same level of holiness we are satisfied with. If a person is more good than bad, we accept him. Allah is the same way. He is a god with a man sized holiness.
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Do not compare Islam to any religion, Islam has a specific rules in every aspect of life, just name it and I'll tell you what Islam offers
Islamism and Zionism have a lot in common.

Religion leads to behavior like this....
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islam teaches it is ok to lie to spread the word of islam
mohamed himself was a liar he made a binding truce with his neighbouring tribe oh to break it and k1ll them in cold blood
the kaaba was originally used as pagan worshiping
in every country where islam exists there is an islamic organisation that either participates in terror or supports it
people that follow islam do it out of political idealogy and pride and want to impose there beliefs on "infidels" by force
islam plays the propaganda war constantly playing the victim wile in reality it practices jihad in every part of the globe, hypocrites blaming the west for wars in the mide east yet muslims ki11ed more of their own than any westerner ever did eg sunni and shite and etc
why is mohamed called holy? He preached revenge and hate and married aiyesha, why is he called a prophet when he has no valid predictions?
who is lying to spread Islam ?!! Muslims never play the victim role, I never said that I dont support Jihad, and you cannot apply what some extreme organisations to the authentic teachings of Islam , some use Islam to gain authority and money, Mohammed didnt break the truce with his neighbors they are the ones who broke it.

if you are a christian you should know that Mohammed came to complement Christianity, Mohammed name is in the Bible, and it is not our fault that the Bible was manipulated and was translated falsely.
and yes Mohammed married Aisha at the age of 9, and that came back with a great benefit to the islamic nation as she narrated over 2000 Hadith, not knowing that girls reach puberty earlier in hot places shows how stupid and ignorant you are
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<quoted text>Religion is divisive and as outdated as witchcraft and druids.
Lol. Or you could say religion is priest-craft. The priests cast spells from the Gospels (god-spell) to hypnotise and deceive the people.

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he cannot claim that everything in the Quran doesn't make sense to him that might take him out of Christianity, Because the Quran in so many verses Confirms some of the Bible stories and teachings, beside nobody mentioned any contradictions in the Quran that I should explain.
Of course he can, he is free to say what he wants, I realise this is anathema to you but thatís just tough. It may seem stupid to you or irrelevant but that does not matter, what you have is simply a difference of opinion over how the word of a bronze age myth should be passed on.

ďAs a christianĒ- do you have problems comprehend that statement?

The Quran does not confirm anything, it is selectively copied from the Tanakh and babble, so it is bound to have some bits that are similar.

I mentioned the contradictions, itís up to you whether you feel the need to explain those contradictions. Me I just see the contradictions in the Tanakh, the babble and the Quran and I think, hmm, I wonder why godbots never think on those contradictions. They choose either one or the other and for some reason donít see those contradictions as a contradiction in fact once they have made their choice they totally ignore the contradictory verses.
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<quoted text>He preached revenge and hate and married aiyesha, why is he called a prophet when he has no valid predictions?
Same could be said of Jew-sus. He preached hate against the pharisees/ his fellow Jews. Condemned people who disbelieved in him (whole cities) to hell-fire. And his predictions have not come true.
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islam is kaos it attacks itself
muslims are at constant jihad against each other in every middle eastern country
islam is propaganda not truth
And if you were born in a Muslim country you would likely follow Islam. Food for thought.

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If God spoke direct to everyone in the whole world, and gave everyone the exact same message. THAT would be good proof of God's existence. We could all with confidence believe in the correct God and in the correct religion. However God's silence (assuming he wants us to be saved) and the contradictory "revelations" are proof of God's non existence.
If god spoke to everyone then there wont be a test, everyone will pass the test, and nobody will deserve to go to paradise simply because it was so easy to believe, and god gave us rules to maintain life and spread justice, we failed to apply these rules that's why we are facing so many problems in the world.

I can prove to you that Quran is the true word of god by getting some scientific facts in the Quran, these facts we impossible to be known at the time of Mohammed, The Quran is the living miracle of Islam, god challenges the entire world to bring a book like it yet even a single chapter, that challenge is 1400 years old and you are more than welcome to try.

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islam is kaos it attacks itself
muslims are at constant jihad against each other in every middle eastern country
islam is propaganda not truth
Islam is a young religion, read your history books on the devastation that christianity caused during the dark ages. They used force, torture and terror to threw a whole continent back 1000 years.

Never mind dark ages, how about Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic, donít mean anything to you? look them up

How about the NLFT in india and the IRA, good modern day christian terrorist.

Look at how Palestinians are murdered in their beds in Palestine?

Itís not Islam thatís the problem, it ALL three abrahamic religions.

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put aside your pride and look at the truth
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
haha you can type Christians converting to Islam and guess what there are millions, I recommend that you watch some of Ahmad Didat
Videos.

put your pride aside and see the truth of the Bible
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And if you were born in a Muslim country you would likely follow Islam. Food for thought.
I thank god hundreds of times everyday for being a Muslim, I was not a religious man earlier in my life , I almost became an atheist, my life was ruined but when I came back to Islam my whole life changed and now I am happier than ever, Islam is not only a religion its a system of life that guarantees happiness and justice.

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islam is kaos it attacks itself
muslims are at constant jihad against each other in every middle eastern country
islam is propaganda not truth
the actual question should be what Islam offers ??!

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Of course he can, he is free to say what he wants, I realise this is anathema to you but thatís just tough. It may seem stupid to you or irrelevant but that does not matter, what you have is simply a difference of opinion over how the word of a bronze age myth should be passed on.
ďAs a christianĒ- do you have problems comprehend that statement?
The Quran does not confirm anything, it is selectively copied from the Tanakh and babble, so it is bound to have some bits that are similar.
I mentioned the contradictions, itís up to you whether you feel the need to explain those contradictions. Me I just see the contradictions in the Tanakh, the babble and the Quran and I think, hmm, I wonder why godbots never think on those contradictions. They choose either one or the other and for some reason donít see those contradictions as a contradiction in fact once they have made their choice they totally ignore the contradictory verses.
Quran is selectively copied from the Tanakh and Babble ..!!! The Quran directly Denies the essence of Christianity ( crucifixion of Jesus, Jesus is the son of god )...!!! and obviously denies the essence of Judaism in so many verses ..!!! The Tanakh and The Babble were changed and mixed with Greek myths, get over it.

you didnt mention any contradictions, and as I told the other guy god challenged Mohammed's tribe and the entire humans to get a single chapter like Quran and this challenge is 1400 years old and you are more than welcome to try to break it.

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Quran is selectively copied from the Tanakh and Babble ..!!! The Quran directly Denies the essence of Christianity ( crucifixion of Jesus, Jesus is the son of god )...!!! and obviously denies the essence of Judaism in so many verses ..!!! The Tanakh and The Babble were changed and mixed with Greek myths, get over it.
you didnt mention any contradictions, and as I told the other guy god challenged Mohammed's tribe and the entire humans to get a single chapter like Quran and this challenge is 1400 years old and you are more than welcome to try to break it.
You also seem to have difficulty with the word selectively

And yet even though the quran denies the essence of christianity it is the biggest/most powerful and richest religion in the world (unfortunately) This just proves that the Quran is not as correct as you claim.

Hey I know the babble was changed, regularly not so sure about the Tanakh though and it still remains fact that the Quran is selectively copied from the Tanakh and babble. Same stories and myths that were written down hundreds, even thousands of years before you prophet was a twinkle in his dads eye, just a different interpretation.

I did mention contradiction 2 post ago and as I said it is up to you whether you feel the need to excuse them.

You come on here, a PUBLIC forum, preaching Islam, you get intelligent arguments to your preaching and so you get fractious, jeez, itís only a faith, get over it

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