Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

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"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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Thinking

UK

#499 Nov 4, 2013
If only you knew of an all powerful deity that could have created such a core.
warner wrote:
<quoted text>You were brought up as a Christian, but that in itself cannot make you Christian, same as you could have been brought up to be an artist or musician but had no natural affiliation or ability in those areas, the result being you were hopeless at painting, sketching and music composition and had a lack of talent. Formal tuition cannot create a genuine love for the subject nor a deep understanding, there has to be something at your core that promotes a drive and natural ability in the field.
Thinking

UK

#500 Nov 4, 2013
You are an evil POS.
No-Doubt wrote:
<quoted text>
Some don't do it
If they did it it is better for them will prevent them for disease
Even kids cry when he see new people
If you have cancer and they asked to do mutatuation you will heal
Will you chose mutation or chemical treatment
Why they should Waite for disease
Prevention better than cure
Women don't think it is voilence
If think it is voilence they will not do it for their children
Neither children do it for their future children
So what is your problem
You should defeat your self
They are able to mange their life
They don't want advice from adultery committing person or drunk
Save your advice for your hore
LCNLin

United States

#501 Nov 4, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Lying moron, when you stop ranting your bibli9cal BS then I will stop replying. You don’t like the idea of freedom of speech then tough
BTW, Hitler was a christian and nationalist. I realise that, you as a good patriotic American, would not understand that but that’s just your own indoctrination
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf
“…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61

“In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6

“Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

“As far as we are concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 394

“There is something very unhealthy about Christianity.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 418

“The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 75-76

“When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145

“Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps. My regret will have been that I couldn’t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar. We are entering into a conception of the world that will be a sunny era, an era of tolerance.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 343-344

“Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 146
“Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it’s the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322

“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7

“But Christianity is an invention of sick brains : one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A negro with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 144
Thinking

UK

#502 Nov 4, 2013
Some particularly backward christards deny that Hitler was one of theirs - and further deny that the majority of Nazi Germany was christian too.
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, indeed. Thanks to theists and their willingness to kill others and commit mass murder in the name of their imaginary friend, every one who wants to fly on a plane is necessarily treated as a potential mass murderer.
Simon

UK

#503 Nov 4, 2013
LCNL, in the early days of National Socialism when Hitler wrote Mein Kempf he still used christianity to promote his racist ideas. Once he was in power he clearly expressed his true feelings. He even abolished christmas to replace it with a holiday to the northic god odin

Hitler believed religion had no place in his 1,000-year Reich, so he replaced the Christian figure of Saint Nicholas with the Norse god Odin and urged Germans to celebrate the season as a holiday of the ‘winter solstice’, rather than Christmas. Good article about this subject
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13412...
Thinking

UK

#504 Nov 4, 2013
You are saying worshipping Odin is not religious?

OMFDawkins.
Simon wrote:
LCNL, in the early days of National Socialism when Hitler wrote Mein Kempf he still used christianity to promote his racist ideas. Once he was in power he clearly expressed his true feelings. He even abolished christmas to replace it with a holiday to the northic god odin
Hitler believed religion had no place in his 1,000-year Reich, so he replaced the Christian figure of Saint Nicholas with the Norse god Odin and urged Germans to celebrate the season as a holiday of the ‘winter solstice’, rather than Christmas. Good article about this subject
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13412...
Warner

Ireland

#505 Nov 4, 2013
Thinking wrote:
If only you knew of an all powerful deity that could have created such a core.
<quoted text>
It was God!
Thinking

UK

#506 Nov 4, 2013
Which one? There are so many.

www.godchecker.com
Warner wrote:
<quoted text>It was God!
Simon

UK

#507 Nov 4, 2013
Thinking wrote:
You are saying worshipping Odin is not religious?
OMFDawkins.
<quoted text>
The discussion was about Hitler and christianity! Odin was not a christian symbol but it belonged to pre-christian Nordic creeds

Since: Jul 11

United States

#508 Nov 4, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
it has a place in Mohammed's Hadith, and says that it never happened and says that Jesus was not crucified, we believe that someone else was crucified instead of him and he was raised to heaven and certainly will return to earth at the end of times.
I understand your perception of the crucifixion, but before Jesus there are I think 26 prophets Islam recognizes. A look into their writings show they did not believe man could stand before God in their good works alone, but that the sacrifice of an innocent halal animal was necessary to atone for sins. Moses for example, wrote as much about the sacrifices as he did the moral commandments. It was a very well established part of patriarchal theology. Why would God abandon the need for sacrifices when Mohammed arrived? It appears to me that Mohammed cut out half of the true religion of God, and renamed it Islam.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#509 Nov 4, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
“…the only way of getting rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61
“It’s Christianity that’s the liar. It’s in perpetual conflict with itself.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 61
“In the long run, National Socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 6
“Kerrl, with the noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don’t believe the thing’s possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145
“As far as we are concerned, we’ve succeeded in chasing the Jews from our midst and excluding Christianity from our political life.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 394
“There is something very unhealthy about Christianity.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 418
“The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 75-76
“When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 145
“Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps. My regret will have been that I couldn’t, like whoever the prophet was, behold the promised land from afar. We are entering into a conception of the world that will be a sunny era, an era of tolerance.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 343-344
“Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 146
“Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it’s the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 322
“The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 7
“But Christianity is an invention of sick brains : one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A negro with his tabus is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in Transubstantiation.”-Hitler’s Table Talk, pg 144
Why do you creationists lie and not stand by your own creation?:

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of
the Almighty Creator.”

[Adolph Hitler,_Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]

Take responsibility for what you created, don't run like cowards.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#510 Nov 4, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
World famous English ethologist, evolutionary biologist and unrelenting critic of religion and the religious,
Richard Dawkins,
has turned his anger on airport security rules after he had a jar of honey confiscated.:-)
Dawkins, who is no stranger to Twitter controversy following alleged anti-Muslim comments he made back in August, declared on the micro-blogging site that ‘Bin Laden has won, in airports of the world every day’ after security took away his jar of honey.
The outspoken atheist, who came to prominence with his 1976 book The Selfish Gene, criticised what he called ‘dundridges’- his word for petty jobsworths - and described the confiscation of his honey as a 'STUPID waste.'
The latest outburst follows a tweet in August in which he said: "All the world's Muslims have fewer Nobel Prizes than Trinity College, Cambridge. They did great things in the Middle Ages, though."
He was widely criticised by fellow twitter-users who claimed his comments were 'anti-Muslim'.
Last month the academic once again found himself at the centre of a row over an interview he gave to the Times Magazine in which he appeared to suggest he was the victim of 'mild paedophilia' at school and that current cases of historical child sex abuse had been overblown.
"I am very conscious that you can't condemn people of an earlier era by the standards of ours", he said.
There was little sympathy today in response to the tweets regarding the confiscated honey.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-new...
Creationist coward who attacks Dawkins repeatedly because he is frustrated he cannot attack Atheism itself!
Thinking

UK

#511 Nov 5, 2013
1. On many Dawkins thread some christard will try to rewrite history and say Hitler was an Atheist.

2. You are the one that used the word religion.

3. "gott mit uns" was worn by German soldiers - not "Odin".
Simon wrote:
<quoted text>
The discussion was about Hitler and christianity! Odin was not a christian symbol but it belonged to pre-christian Nordic creeds

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#512 Nov 5, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
I never meant to condescend to anybody, but as long as you don't see the difference between Islam and other religions you certainly don't know a thing, you simply chose to put a label.
I think you are stupid because you don't understand a metaphor, it was obvious that I was not comparing The Holy Quran to dummies book , you should learn to read between lines.
its dafinetly not up to you to fook !!! who ever you want, its not up to you to ruin the community, its not up to you to spread STDS and its dafinetly not up to you to throw a child in an Orphanage and runaway.
you forgot that your freedom ends where another person's begins,
and those atheists you mentioned will do anything as long as they wont be caught by law.
Islam doesn't contradict with science in any aspect ..!! actually it encourages science and improvements to make people's life easier.
BS, you are an ignorant and condescending moron, whether you mean to be or not

Honey, I am not a mind reader and yes your post was comparing the Quran (and other god books) to a god for dummies book, all you need to do is read the post you wrote to see the stupidity and ignorance of your comments

So you are saying that it is up to you and your buddies to decide who and when I fook? Getsuffed you moronic fool, I am a human being with free will, not a piece of meat set down on this earth for your sick perversions to play with.

Why are you assuming that I spread STDs and that I hoik my children to an orphanage? I take full responsibility for my own actions, I do not blame then on any god and have no god crutch to fall back on. You are a sick in the head guess merchant, your belief in a bronze age myth has distorted your view of humanity.

I forget no such thing, I am well aware that my freedom is personal to me. However you have no rights to control my freedom. You see the thing is that the word we are talking about here is FREEDOM – not what you consider to be freedom. Freedom under your terms is not freedom, it is dictatorship.

What atheists I mentioned won’t be caught by the law? The scientist of the NAS? Are you saying that science should be illegal? Or are you saying that I am a law breaker? You hypocritical idiot, I live in the UK under the jurisdiction of British (English) law. As far as I am aware I have never broken a law in my life with the exception of exceeding the speed limit on occasion.

I am not saying that Islam does contradict science, I am saying that Islam is not science and what you interpret as science in the Quran is not science

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#513 Nov 5, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922

The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation.
Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man in this world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroes with missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly, but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that where parents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity on a poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother, than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bring unhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world.
Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

It will at any rate be my supreme task to see to it that in the newly awakened NSDAP, the adherents of both Confessions can live peacefully together side by side in order that they may take their stand in the common fight against the power which is the mortal foe of any true Christianity.
Adolf Hitler, in an article headed "A New Beginning," 26 Feb. 1925

We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls.... We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.
Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Passau, 27 October 1928

… swearing fidelity only to God, our conscience, and our Volk.... This the national government will regard its first and foremost duty to restore the unity of spirit and purpose of our Volk. It will preserve and defend the foundations upon which the power of our nation rests. It will take Christianity, as the basis of our collective morality, and the family as the nucleus of our Volk and state, under its firm protection....May God Almighty take our work into his grace, give true form to our will, bless our insight, and endow us with the trust of our Volk.
Adolf Hitler, on 1 Feb. 1933

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#514 Nov 5, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
We could go on like this for months, the fact remains though that Hitler was baptised christian, was raised in a christian tradition in a predominantly christian country. He modelled his dictatorship on christian belief and did what he did because he believed he was doing gods work in obliterating the killers of his christ.

His speeches and book often refereed to his beliefs and not only did Hitler have an ambassador in the Vatican, the Vatican also sent am ambassador to the Reich

And the final nail in the coffin is that Hitler has never – NEVER been excommunicated from the Christian church for his murder of 6 million people. Unlike the Brazilian believer who was excommunicated for having an abortion following a gang rape.

So it really does not matter how much you hate the fact that he was christian, the fact remains that the church of which he was a member still considers he was christian

You opinion is irrelevant.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#515 Nov 5, 2013
Simon wrote:
LCNL, in the early days of National Socialism when Hitler wrote Mein Kempf he still used christianity to promote his racist ideas. Once he was in power he clearly expressed his true feelings. He even abolished christmas to replace it with a holiday to the northic god odin
Hitler believed religion had no place in his 1,000-year Reich, so he replaced the Christian figure of Saint Nicholas with the Norse god Odin and urged Germans to celebrate the season as a holiday of the ‘winter solstice’, rather than Christmas. Good article about this subject
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13412...
So the fact that most of Northern Europe worshipped Odin long before christianity got a foothold and that Northern Europeans celebrated the winter festival for thousands of years before the abrahamic god was even a twinkle of sunshine in Akhenaten’s eye is irrelevant?

Of course as a nationalist, Hitler believed that christianity had no place in the Reich, in just the same way that he believed the Reich had no place in christianity. He may have been a murdering despot but he knew the problems that religion brings to the governance of a country - Think on the dark ages.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
See in particular
Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin, 1935
The Fuhrer in Franken
Hitler greets Muller the "Bishop of the Reich" and Abbot Schachleitner
Hitler greets a Catholic Cardinal
Hitler leaving Church
Church & State
Hitler signing his autograph for a Christian fan
Hitler praying
The Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis

Hitler Oath:-I swear by God, this holy oath, to the Führer of the German Reich and people. Adolf Hitler...

Nazi Graves Germany represented the most Christianized country in the world in the 1930s and 40s. Nazi Christian soldiers died as Protestants and Catholics and their grave markers testified to their religion

Nazi funeral
Priests giving the Hitler salute
Catholic Service for Nazis
Etc… etc… etc…

Such a lot of photos including some christmas celebrations
LCNLin

United States

#516 Nov 5, 2013
Hitler's lies fool some atheist trolls
Not a great surprise
LOL

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#517 Nov 5, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Hitler's lies fool some atheist trolls
Not a great surprise
LOL
Are you on the wacky backy again?

The evidence is overwhelming, just because you are too sh|t scared to admit that a murdering despot can be Christian. Despite what the babble teaches that the worlds first genocide was committed by your god, that you god was the first recorded child murderer, that you god condones slavery and theft and rape. And despite the fact that the Vatican still considers he was christian is just a reflection of you delusion

Just because you don’t like what he did does not mean you can deny his religion, if you deny his religion you are denying your own.

The only one lying here is you

As Thinking so rightly pointed out "gott mit uns"

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#518 Nov 5, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Hitler's lies fool some atheist trolls
Not a great surprise
LOL
Your cults lies are crushed with facts. Everything is LOL to you, even embarassment.

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