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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3152 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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#416 Nov 1, 2013
Religious liars like LCN will try to troll, but always come off looking like tw*ts.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#417 Nov 1, 2013
As ChristineM is away for a few days I thought I'd have ago at replying to this.

Part 1
hazem selawi wrote:
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you still dont understand what Islam is, Islam is simply a relationship between humans and the creator, now if you and I agreed that there is a creator for this universe then we'll assume that this creator wouldn't leave his creatures to live with no guidance or without explaining the purpose of creating them and even some rules to organize their lives.
As the Qurans relationship between humans and God is believe or burn it's not much of a relationship.

It's a presumption to believe a God would want to guide us rather than just let us live our own lives.
Considering the mess the worlds in the idea we are unguided makes more sense.

Just what is our purpose in life? The Quran says it's to worship God. Is that it?
hazem selawi wrote:
if we agreed on that we will also agree that it is unfair to leave specific nations with no guidance or lets call it a manual, it is pretty obvious in The Quran that this creator sent every nation a prophet (chose someone within them to give guidance and show the right path to succeed in this life and what to do to survive in the after life), so saying that Quran was taken From the Babble and the babble was taken from Tankah, so metaphorically speaking what you indicated is like saying Bill gates wrote different manuals to end users on different years like the manual or brochure of windows 98 and then windows 2000 and windows 2007 and so on .
so in short words we believe that every nation from the beginning of human race had a prophet or messenger, and The last prophet was Mohammed and his message is for the entire world not only Arabs,
The Qurans claim that prophets were sent to all nations disprove Islam.
Quite simply there's no evidence for them anywhere outside of Arabia.

An all knowing God would not send prophets knowing they would fail, instead he would choose people who could and with his help would succeed.
For them to fail so totally means that either your God is incompetent or they never existed, either way this disproves Islam.

As for Moses, he never talks about an afterlife and Jesus said there will be no marriage in heaven (hence no virgins) so they didn't agree with Muhammad either.
hazem selawi wrote:
If you studied the Torah and The Babble carefully you will notice that there aren't any social or specific rules to follow, most of it actually focuses on ethics and what not to do without specific laws, But you will never find rules to cover all aspects of life like laws of inheritance, marriage, and restitution for injuries and murder, as well as rules for fasting, charity, and prayer.
The Ten commandment? Obviously you've never read Deuteronomy.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
hazem selawi wrote:
thus the time changes, new rules should come To complement the previous messages, the actual Bible and Torah were perfect to fulfill people's life at that time but after that these previous books were manipulated and if not they still wont fit in our modern life.
How exactly had the world changed from the time of Moses and Jesus to that of Muhammad? I'd have thought it was basically the same.

What's more the basics of Islam are very simple and timeless, one God, good people go to paradise, bad people go to hell. What rules did the Quran bring that wouldn't have worked centuries before?

“Evil Atheist :-)”

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#418 Nov 1, 2013
Part 2
hazem selawi wrote:
Islamic law covers all aspects of life, from matters of state, like governance and foreign relations, to issues of daily living. The Qur'an defines the punishments for five specific crimes: unlawful intercourse, false accusation of unlawful intercourse, consumption of alcohol, theft, and highway robbery. The Qur'an and Sunnah also contain laws of inheritance, marriage, and restitution for injuries and murder, as well as rules for fasting, charity, and prayer, Islamic Sharia has specific Rules to maintain a better life even to trees, environment and animals (literally everything is covered and was taught by prophet Mohammed).
All nations have always had many laws.

Have you tried working out the inheritance rules (4:11/12 & 4:176)? Unless there's a son the numbers don't add up.
hazem selawi wrote:
I think you don't know much of the Islamic history, at the time Europe was living in Dark ages , Islamic nations were applying Sharia Law, the Muslims were living in golden ages, everything improved, there were so many muslim scientists in different categories, now its widely acceptable that most of the Industrial Revolution depended on sciences were discovered by Muslims, if you know a little bit about astronomy you will notice that most of the stars have Arabic names because they were carefully studied and Recorded by Muslims, even mathematics (ALGEBRA) was discovered by an Arabic Muslim and the list goes on ....
Many civilizations have contributed to the modern world. Islam played its part but then was surpassed by Europe.
hazem selawi wrote:
I always wonder what does atheism offer to solve the world problems ?!! man made laws and rules are proving everyday that it fails in so many aspects, who is gonna end the hunger in the world ?!
what Rules does man made constitutions and regulations offer to punish the thief, the rapist and the murderer ?!!
you have to admit that we as humans failed to spread Justice in our world.
Have you any evidence that people didn't go hungry in the Islamic world?

As an atheist I believe all the laws in holy books are man made and they don't work any better than todays.

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Portland, OR

#419 Nov 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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There isn't even a shred of evidence and you know it. You're just another bitter creationist troll with no proof of god, trying to disrupt the thread.
Well there is evidence, and I dont think Im bitter. Didnt mean to disrupt, thought it was open discussion. Sorry.

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#420 Nov 1, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
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Well there is evidence, and I dont think Im bitter. Didnt mean to disrupt, thought it was open discussion. Sorry.
There's a no evidence for god. You can stop lying about god now. If you still think there's evidence then its clear you have the mental illness of faith and wilfully ignore facts.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#421 Nov 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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There's no evidence for god.
Exactly. Certainly Abrahamic gods are nonsense and there's no evidence for these either...
http://www.godchecker.com/

Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology

Since: Jul 11

Portland, OR

#422 Nov 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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There's a no evidence for god. You can stop lying about god now. If you still think there's evidence then its clear you have the mental illness of faith and wilfully ignore facts.
So the experience of God doesnt count?

Since: Jul 11

Portland, OR

#423 Nov 1, 2013
I mean, seriously, if you encountered God, wouldn't it broaden your perspective?
Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#424 Nov 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
Part 2
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All nations have always had many laws.
Have you tried working out the inheritance rules (4:11/12 & 4:176)? Unless there's a son the numbers don't add up.
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Many civilizations have contributed to the modern world. Islam played its part but then was surpassed by Europe.
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Have you any evidence that people didn't go hungry in the Islamic world?
As an atheist I believe all the laws in holy books are man made and they don't work any better than todays.
Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear -George Orwell

Holy books were designed for yokels of the past, not for people of today. When a holy book tells us hogwash such a someone lived till the age of 950 years, you at once recognize that this nothing other than bronze age malarkey.

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#425 Nov 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
As ChristineM is away for a few days I thought I'd have ago at replying to this.
Part 1
<quoted text>
As the Qurans relationship between humans and God is believe or burn it's not much of a relationship.
It's a presumption to believe a God would want to guide us rather than just let us live our own lives.
Considering the mess the worlds in the idea we are unguided makes more sense.
Just what is our purpose in life? The Quran says it's to worship God. Is that it?
<quoted text>
The Qurans claim that prophets were sent to all nations disprove Islam.
Quite simply there's no evidence for them anywhere outside of Arabia.
An all knowing God would not send prophets knowing they would fail, instead he would choose people who could and with his help would succeed.
For them to fail so totally means that either your God is incompetent or they never existed, either way this disproves Islam.
As for Moses, he never talks about an afterlife and Jesus said there will be no marriage in heaven (hence no virgins) so they didn't agree with Muhammad either.
<quoted text>
The Ten commandment? Obviously you've never read Deuteronomy.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
<quoted text>
How exactly had the world changed from the time of Moses and Jesus to that of Muhammad? I'd have thought it was basically the same.
What's more the basics of Islam are very simple and timeless, one God, good people go to paradise, bad people go to hell. What rules did the Quran bring that wouldn't have worked centuries before?
Part 1

Hello "Igor trip" I would be more than happy to talk to you again, at first I was not trying to prove anything, I started to explain Islam and its ideology in short words, the relationship between the creator and humans is certainly not Just about heaven and paradise, because we have a detailed lets call it a "manual" in life and believe it or not the creator want you to live your own life but within specific rules to maintain Justice in this world, you are free to live your own life as long as you are not doing any harm to anything (Humans, environment, animals...etc) around you and as you said the purpose of life is to worship god, but what does worshiping god means ?!! worshiping god certainly doesn't mean to keep praying 24/7 ; worshiping god means you believe that there is nothing worthy of worship except him thus you have to live your life according to that which means you'll try to please him in everything you do simply because you know any action you do during this life will have consequences in this life and the after life, good news and warnings were delivered by prophets because after all we are humans and the human nature needs a motivation to do good and sometimes a punishment to stay away from bad actions, there is a Psychology wisdom behind that.

you got me wrong regarding the other religions and prophets, I do know that all religions have commandments but these commandments are vague and only tell you to do good different things like feeding the poor, dont steal ...etc and to not to commit any sin, but what if I stole ?!! what if I committed adultery ?!! how shall I feed the poor ? what if I committed a murder ?!
in Islam its different because according to Mohammed teachings (Hadith or Sunnah) and the Quran everything is obvious and can be applied easily with specific and accurate numbers and percentage ,
one of the five pillars of Islam is to pay 2.5% of your wealth yearly if you were rich (with specific details) you can google (Zakkah), and even this zakkah should go for specific people not only the poor and orphans , in other words there is a detailed rules to maintain a very strong economy and a very strong community at the same time, Mohammed teachings organize family and social relations also in a specific and accurate method, the heritage is also explained very well and with specific percentages

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#426 Nov 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
Part 2
<quoted text>
All nations have always had many laws.
Have you tried working out the inheritance rules (4:11/12 & 4:176)? Unless there's a son the numbers don't add up.
<quoted text>
Many civilizations have contributed to the modern world. Islam played its part but then was surpassed by Europe.
<quoted text>
Have you any evidence that people didn't go hungry in the Islamic world?
As an atheist I believe all the laws in holy books are man made and they don't work any better than todays.
Part 2

I will continue explaining that Islamic law covers all aspects of life, from matters of state, like governance and foreign relations, to issues of daily living. The Qur'an defines the punishments for five specific crimes: unlawful intercourse, false accusation of unlawful intercourse, consumption of alcohol, theft, and highway robbery. The Qur'an and Sunnah also contain laws of inheritance, marriage, and restitution for injuries and murder, as well as rules for fasting, charity, and prayer, Islamic Sharia has specific Rules to maintain a better life even to trees, environment and animals (literally everything is covered and was taught by prophet Mohammed).

yes I have tried the inheritance rules and they work perfectly, recently I lost my grandfather he was a very rich man who has 4 sons, 2 daughters and a wife by the time we continued the paper work, the judge told us that even Christians apply the Islamic inheritance rules to prevent any problems between the Heirs although they don't have to but obviously the church doesn't offer any specific inheritance rules, anyways it turned out that there are so many cases to apply the inheritance rules, when the dead has 2 sons and no wife its different, when the dead has 1 son its different, there are so many cases and each case is accurately calculated and explained in Mohammed teachings (Hadith and Sunnah), so the statement you wrote ("Have you tried working out the inheritance rules (4:11/12 & 4:176)? Unless there's a son the numbers don't add up.") doesn't make any sense and the Quran should be complemented by Sunnah and teachings of Mohammed, for instance the Quran only say pray and pay charity (Zakkah) but it was explained by Mohammed how exactly to pray and how to pay Zakkah.

I cannot prove to you that people didn't go hungry in the Islamic world because not all of the Islamic previous leaders applied the Islamic Sharia law accurately, some of them failed but you can easily compare the Islamic nations now and back then, and we can get you the authentic Rules and teachings of Quran and Sunnah and theoretically apply it to the new world problems Just name the problem and I will explain what Islamic sharia offers.
have you ever considered the difference between Halal Meat (slaughtered according to teachings of Mohammed) and other meat ?!!
even animals should be slaughtered in a specific way to guarantee
the least pain and the easiest way for animals (for further details you can read this article http://quran-m.com/firas/en1/index.php... )

the list goes on for everything, Just name anything and i'll tell what Islam offers.

"Igor Trip" I want you to understand that me being a believer certainly doesn't guarantee me the paradise,we know that even believers will be questioned for everything, Its the creator choice to whether put me in heaven or Hell, he is the only Judge, we try to do good deeds as much as we can and hope to please the creator ..thats it!! there is a Hadith From Mohammed which tells a story about a woman who will go to paradise only for giving water to a thirsty dog in the dessert.
God is merciful and just; before anyone goes to hell he/she will be asked whether he received the warning or not, and whether he received this message was it explained enough for him or not.

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#427 Nov 1, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
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So the experience of God doesnt count?
The rest of the world does not stop, simply because you had "a feeling".

You need evidence to prove god is real, and you liars don't have it.

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#428 Nov 1, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
I mean, seriously, if you encountered God, wouldn't it broaden your perspective?
You mental illness prevents you from understanding that athiests disbelieve in your religious lies.

You are asking an impossible "what if" question.

What if gravity stopped working? Wouldn't it broaden your perspective??

OF COURSE IT WOULD - because its scientifically impossible and there's no evidence for it ever being possible!

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#429 Nov 1, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Part 1
Hello "Igor trip" I would be more than happy to talk to you again, at first I was not trying to prove anything, I started to explain Islam and its ideology in short words, the relationship between the creator and humans is certainly not Just about heaven and paradise, because we have a detailed lets call it a "manual" in life and believe it or not the creator want you to live your own life but within specific rules to maintain Justice in this world, you are free to live your own life as long as you are not doing any harm to anything (Humans, environment, animals...etc) around you and as you said the purpose of life is to worship god, but what does worshiping god means ?!! worshiping god certainly doesn't mean to keep praying 24/7 ; worshiping god means you believe that there is nothing worthy of worship except him thus you have to live your life according to that which means you'll try to please him in everything you do simply because you know any action you do during this life will have consequences in this life and the after life, good news and warnings were delivered by prophets because after all we are humans and the human nature needs a motivation to do good and sometimes a punishment to stay away from bad actions, there is a Psychology wisdom behind that.
you got me wrong regarding the other religions and prophets, I do know that all religions have commandments but these commandments are vague and only tell you to do good different things like feeding the poor, dont steal ...etc and to not to commit any sin, but what if I stole ?!! what if I committed adultery ?!! how shall I feed the poor ? what if I committed a murder ?!
in Islam its different because according to Mohammed teachings (Hadith or Sunnah) and the Quran everything is obvious and can be applied easily with specific and accurate numbers and percentage ,
one of the five pillars of Islam is to pay 2.5% of your wealth yearly if you were rich (with specific details) you can google (Zakkah), and even this zakkah should go for specific people not only the poor and orphans , in other words there is a detailed rules to maintain a very strong economy and a very strong community at the same time, Mohammed teachings organize family and social relations also in a specific and accurate method, the heritage is also explained very well and with specific percentages
Cowardly liar with no proof of god.

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#430 Nov 2, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
I mean, seriously, if you encountered God, wouldn't it broaden your perspective?
The question we ask you, after you lie about god, is, why do you lie?

Why do you lie about god? Why are you a cowards when it comes to proving your god?

These are all important questions that you and your cult run away from like the dishonest people you are.

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#431 Nov 2, 2013
Thiests are quick to build buildings and tell people what to do - but slow to prove any of it - the criminals of our time.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#432 Nov 2, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I am away for the weekend, I’ll get back to this on Monday
Have a good weekend. We will miss you.

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#433 Nov 2, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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You're a f*cking idiot, just go home you embarassment.
You have to decrease time off fucking so you will use this ward less

Then you will become polite

No wonder atheist has no ethics

U suffer from severe lack of knowledge

Poor you

Watch ;in coming out from his leg

http://m.youtube.com/watch...

Do u want to claim this is not true

http://m.youtube.com/watch...

Are u mad because I am revealing what you trying to hide lol

Claim it is Supernatural

Call it whatever / doesn't mean it happen by it self

If not

So why they ask certain people to kill..... in dessert

Oh

It is supernatural who asking for

I mean jin

U have to read magic book

They have something called pre inviting ghosts

Some people eyes turn red because jin tolerate them

They confeSsed

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#434 Nov 2, 2013
By the way it was proved scientifically
In DR OZ show
So stop acting idiot
There was huge audience

Trying to find victims

Since: Sep 13

Dubai, UAE

#435 Nov 2, 2013
Skeyptic

Know the truth but he acting as if he doesn't

Huraira reported that The Prophet (PBUH) said: "All what of son of Adam will (be eaten???) by the earthexcept the coccyx from which he was created and from which he will be resurrected "

Proved

The German scientist started his experiments on the amphibians by implanting the primary organiser in a second foetus, which led to the growth of a secondary embryo. The implantation of the cut primary organiser was in another foetus of the same age under the Epiblast layer and lead to the apparition of a secondary embryonic anlage.

In 1931, when Spemann crushed the primary organiser and implanted it again, the crushing did not affect the experiment as again, a secondary embryonic anlage grew.

They even put it in chemical but didn't dissolve

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