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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3147 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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#355 Oct 29, 2013
Please watch this every one

http://m.youtube.com/watch...

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Abu Dhabi, UAE

#356 Oct 29, 2013
Amused wrote:
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You are Stark.Raving.Mad. Atheists don't believe in imaginary beings of any sort. Not gods, not devils, not angels not "jin" (whatever the f that may be, not santa, not elves, not fairies etc. All of those are products of superstitious minds that seek supernatural explanations for things they are unable to understand. We are not afraid of invisible beings. We aren't so scared of female sexuality that we have to mutilate their genitals. We aren't even afraid of bacon.
Funny

We don't eat pork not because we afraid

But because it is unhealthy

Eat his poops

Disgusting

Really, don't practice magic

Yestarday I read topic : Atheist discussing spells

And posting shirt with spells

And claiming they have power,

Since: Sep 13

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#357 Oct 29, 2013
Brain worm from eating pork

http://m.youtube.com/watch...

No wonder why you body full of diseases
Amused

Lowell, MA

#358 Oct 29, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
Brain worm from eating pork
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
No wonder why you body full of diseases
You need not fear brain worms. Your brain isn't large enough to keep a worm nourished for any appreciable length of time.

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#359 Oct 29, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope not highly possible at all – you need some sort of evidence that a god, any of the 3700 documented gods of earth or the possible myriad gods of any other planet with inhabitants (if they exist) that worship gods before you can make such a statement. You have no evidence, what you have is faith so how can you say such a source is highly possible or even possible? What you can say is that you believe. There are several scientific theories of what happened before the BB, theories backed by mathematics and observation of the universe as it stands, not a single one of those theories includes god did it. As for how the universe as we know it today was formed, that is known right back to 10^-34th of a second after the event and no god was involved.
Nope, I don’t suppose anything, I deal in facts and made up irrelevance is a most definite no no.
As for your “convenient claim” that a god cannot be measured please advise how you know this? Is it a guess or do you know of someone who has tried?
Allow me to explain my religion in short words, I never mentioned a 3700 gods, I only believe in one God, God the Creator of the universe, I happen to believe that nothing is worthy of worship except him, so monotheism is the most important issue, this religion is basically a relationship between humans and the creator of everything, now if there was a god do you think it would be fair to leave humans with no evidence or clues to find him ?!

Apparently you are asking for evidences or proofs for a god existence, that is completely normal and totally shows that you are on the right path.

now during the past centuries The creator chose some people to deliver his message and some proofs of his existence,lets take Moses for instance, Moses was given some power of magic because he was sent to people who knew a lot of Magic and he challenged them with the best thing they do, so it was easy for those who witnessed his miracles to believe in his prophecy instantly.

Jesus(Issa in arabic) was sent by the creator in a time where people were the best in medicine, so Again Issa challenged those people with the best they can do, He cured the Blind, He gave life to dead people ...etc

according to my religion there were so many prophets sent to humans, we also believe there is no nation ever left with no messenger, In order to believe its everybody's right to witness a miracle.
the latest prophet of mankind is Mohammed and his miracle is the Quran, its a living miracle, Mohammed was chosen by god to challenge the Arabs in the best thing they can do which is poetry and Arabic language thus he sent them through Mohammed the finest piece of literature and It is widely regarded as the finest piece of literature in the Arabic language By Arabs, this Books the quran also contains a lot of scientific miracles and facts were impossible to be known at the time of Mohammed.

let me repeat my question, if there was a god do you think it would be fair to leave humans with no evidence or clues to find him ?!

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#360 Oct 29, 2013
]Murder's committed by Muslims.
Date Country City/State Killed Injured Description

10/17/2013 Iraq Baghdad 8 15 Islamists set off a bomb in a Christian neighborhood, killing at least eight residents.

10/10/2013 Syria Jaramana 11 23 Eleven people are killed when Sunni terrorists fire mortars into a Christian neighborhood.

10/5/2013 Centrafrique Bangassou 9 0 Nine Christians protesting violence by Muslim 'rebels' are killed when their demonstration is attacked.

9/28/2013 Nigeria Zangang 15 12 Muslim militia attack a Christian village, hacking to death fifteen residents and burning down their homes.

9/26/2013 Nigeria Dorawa 3 0 A Pastor and his son are among three people machine-gunned by Religion of Peace enthusiasts.

9/25/2013 Libya Derna 2 0 Two Christians are invited to embrace Islam, then tied up and shot when they refuse.

9/25/2013 Kenya Wajir 1 3 al-Shabaab claims credit for a grenade attack near a Catholic church.

9/22/2013 Pakistan Peshawar 85 110 Two Jundullah suicide bombers obliterate over eighty-five worshippers at a church service, including many women and children.

9/14/2013 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Christian's throat is slit on the street after being branded an 'infidel' and blasphemer.

9/13/2013 Tanzania Zanzibar 0 1 Muslims throw acid on a priest, badly burning him.

9/12/2013 Egypt Sahel Selim 2 0 Two Copts are shot to death for refusing to pay Jizya to Muslims.

9/8/2013 Syria Maaloula 3 6 Three Christians are murdered in their home, and six others taken hostage by Islamists.

9/7/2013 Syria Maaloula 3 0 At least three Christians are shot to death after declining an offer to embrace Islam.

9/4/2013 Syria Maaloula 8 27 At least eight defenders are killed when Islamists storm a Christian village and shell a church.

9/4/2013 Syria Maalula 1 0 Islamists slit the throat of a Christian for refusing to deny his faith, then taunt his fiancee.

9/3/2013 Nigeria Kunte-Kuru 6 0 A brutal assault by Muslim militia on the home of a Christian family leaves six members dead, including a 7-year-old child.

9/3/2013 Nigeria Gura Dabwam 3 1 Muslims gun down a devout Christian villager and his two teenage sons.

9/1/2013 Nigeria Adu 9 3 Nine Christian villagers, including two children, are machine-gunned in their own homes by Muslim terrorists.

9/1/2013 Somalia Beledweyne 1 1 A Christian woman is murdered in front of her child, in a targeted attack by Islamic radicals.

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#362 Oct 30, 2013
Amused wrote:
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You need not fear brain worms. Your brain isn't large enough to keep a worm nourished for any appreciable length of time.
So, you got lesson

U have worms,

Yach

If girls know they will run from you lol

My brain,

Really

Did u measure it !

But your is empty,

Since: Sep 13

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#363 Oct 30, 2013
You called those innocence

They kill Muslim kids

Why don't u call Muslim who was been killed innocene

Your kid innocene while muslim not

So wired

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Go and cry on your claimed god who was
Killed by jews

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Why didn't you defeat over you claim God

Since: Sep 13

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#364 Oct 30, 2013
Your claimed God was not able to save his self

So how he will help you lol

Since: Sep 13

Abu Dhabi, UAE

#365 Oct 30, 2013
decades muslim in bosona ve krosovana

Suffering

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Christian killing innocene people

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

They killed Omar Mokhtar

Killing in indonesia daily

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Invading muslim area and burning their shelter

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Christian can't stand minute without attacking innocent muslim

Second world invaded all arab countries
Plus algeria, tunsia,.........
Doing all bad stuff, raping killing destroying

Also,
medieval Christian wars from 11 century till 15 century

Four whole century muslim suffering by christians
In year
1096

Burning muslim in nigeria while they setting in their home

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Burning innocene man alive

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In different part of world muslim suffering

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Invading and killing nation without fault

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Christian has no mercy killing kids

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Innocent muslim nation killed by christian

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Raping muslim in bosona by christian

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Muslim being raped in iraq by christian

Pedophile christian

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Worst christian crime in iraq

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No-Doubt | 1 hr ago
They left kid without mother crying over his mother

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Ardogan to surkuzi saying did your father tell you about blodshed in algeria

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

When christian invaded algeria
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No-Doubt | 1 hr ago
They don't have ethic piss on muslim
They don't wash their self ( dirty
There dress also dirty smell urine ( ach

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Christian in afghanistan pedophile

http://m.youtube.com/watch ...

Bloodshot in afghanistan by christiaan

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US crimes in iraq

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treat you they get offended.

#366 Oct 30, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Allow me to explain my religion in short words, I never mentioned a 3700 gods, I only believe in one God, God the Creator of the universe, I happen to believe that nothing is worthy of worship except him, so monotheism is the most important issue, this religion is basically a relationship between humans and the creator of everything, now if there was a god do you think it would be fair to leave humans with no evidence or clues to find him ?!
Apparently you are asking for evidences or proofs for a god existence, that is completely normal and totally shows that you are on the right path.
now during the past centuries The creator chose some people to deliver his message and some proofs of his existence,lets take Moses for instance, Moses was given some power of magic because he was sent to people who knew a lot of Magic and he challenged them with the best thing they do, so it was easy for those who witnessed his miracles to believe in his prophecy instantly.
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I know quite a lot about your religion, and about the different sects of your religion so please do not try and be condescending with me.

It does not matter how many gods you mention, the fact remains that there are 3700+ instances of different god myth. Saying the creator god reduces that to about 2400 so which one do you believe in?

Nope, this relationship is between the worshipper and who they believe to be their god. It does not involve humanity but individual (and group) faith

Of course we are asking for evidence, any will do, just because you are suckered into your belief does not mean that rational, thinking people say “Doh dats a good story it must be troof” I am asking to question your belief in magic, not my belief in reality

Nope, the creator did not chose anything, no creator to chose, If moses existed, and there is considerable doubt then he was an escaped slave with a passion for the dramatic and land theft.

Do you have any ACTUAL evidence that anyone in biblical times could cure the blind and raise the dead? No… Didn’t think so.

Nope you believe, just like most other religions that everyone WILL believe what you believe under pain of pain. Unfortunately Islam is a fairly young religion and has only recently (in century terms) got to the zealot stage that christianity encountered in the middle ages and Judaism encountered during the Roman period to create christianity.

You want to believe Mohammed was a prophet than that’s fine but don’t expect people who know that magic is a myth to bow down with you.

Ehm, what is so hard about the understanding of the word science? In science miracles do not happen, everything is explained, explainable and can be falsified. Therefore, just like the christian misuse of the words truth and morality etc you are misusing the word science just to provide credibility for your faith.

Please mention a couple of these facts that were impossible to know.

Your question is irrelevant, the fact is that there is no evidence and mathematics shows that an immortal and infinite god cannot exist in this universe at the same time as you. There is only once conclusion, that god is in the imagination of the believer

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#367 Oct 30, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry for the late reply, I just saw your post,
so According to the laws of thermodynamics forming about the capability of something to come out from nothing it sounds to be possible, so now we agree that its possible for something to come out of nothing, so its highly possible that God came out of nothing and after that created the whole universe .
Lets suppose that you or I made up 2 candles and gave those 2 candles brains but not capable of seeing us, and left those 2 candles to live their lives, don't you think if those 2 candles tried to think about their creator (the one who built them up) will certainly think that the creator is one big candle which may melt , they will never understand we have 2 arms, 2 eyes, can walk, eat or do anything that humans do, so in other words our universe is stuck among specific Rules and we will never be able to understand what is god or how were we created, god cannot be measured according to our measurements and standards simply because these rules were made up by him .
Coward who can't address my points. Here they are for you again idiot:

Face it, you thought the atheism forum would be a soft target for your evagnelicism, but you fail at the first hurdle, proving your god.

You all fail at this hurdle and it offends you, because you have no evidence of anything you are saying about your cult.

When atheists remind you of YOUR FAILURE, you get angry at them, instead of angry at yourselves for being caught LYING.

The truth hurts.

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#368 Oct 30, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
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Why not those Atheist practise Magic
You're a f*cking idiot, just go home you embarassment.

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#369 Oct 30, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Coward who can't address my points. Here they are for you again idiot:
Face it, you thought the atheism forum would be a soft target for your evagnelicism, but you fail at the first hurdle, proving your god.
You all fail at this hurdle and it offends you, because you have no evidence of anything you are saying about your cult.
When atheists remind you of YOUR FAILURE, you get angry at them, instead of angry at yourselves for being caught LYING.
The truth hurts.
I am not angry at anybody, and I haven't started to prove anything yet, stop jumping to conclusions

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#370 Oct 30, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I know quite a lot about your religion, and about the different sects of your religion so please do not try and be condescending with me.
It does not matter how many gods you mention, the fact remains that there are 3700+ instances of different god myth. Saying the creator god reduces that to about 2400 so which one do you believe in?
Nope, this relationship is between the worshipper and who they believe to be their god. It does not involve humanity but individual (and group) faith
Of course we are asking for evidence, any will do, just because you are suckered into your belief does not mean that rational, thinking people say “Doh dats a good story it must be troof” I am asking to question your belief in magic, not my belief in reality
Nope, the creator did not chose anything, no creator to chose, If moses existed, and there is considerable doubt then he was an escaped slave with a passion for the dramatic and land theft.
Do you have any ACTUAL evidence that anyone in biblical times could cure the blind and raise the dead? No… Didn’t think so.
Nope you believe, just like most other religions that everyone WILL believe what you believe under pain of pain. Unfortunately Islam is a fairly young religion and has only recently (in century terms) got to the zealot stage that christianity encountered in the middle ages and Judaism encountered during the Roman period to create christianity.
You want to believe Mohammed was a prophet than that’s fine but don’t expect people who know that magic is a myth to bow down with you.
All these stories i mentioned about Moses and Jesus was just to reach a specific point which is You should get an evidence or proof of the existing of god, that's it ...!!

and As I told you before all I can do to you is bringing some scientific facts from the Quran which were impossible to be known at the time of Mohammed .

I'll start with the expansion theory (Hubble’s Law)

In 1916, Albert Einstein formulated his General Theory of Relativity that indicated that the universe must be either expanding or contracting. Confirmation of the expanding-universe theory finally came in 1929 in the hands of the well known American astronomer Edwin Hubble.

By observing redshifts, in the light wavelengths emitted by galaxies, Hubble found that galaxies were not fixed in their position; instead, they were actually moving away from us with speeds proportional to their distance from earth (Hubble's Law). The only explanation for this observation was that the universe had to be expanding. Hubble’s discovery is regarded as one of the greatest in the history of astronomy. In 1929, he published the velocity-time relation which is the basis of modern cosmology. In the years to come, with further observations, the expanding-universe theory was accepted by scientists and astronomers alike.

Yet, astonishingly well before telescopes were even invented and well before Hubble published his Law, Prophet Muhammad used to recite a verse of the Quran to his companions that ultimately stated that the universe is expanding

Ali Unal translation Quran 51:47
"And the heaven, We have constructed it mightily, and it is surely We Who have vast power, and keep expanding it. "

At the time of the revelation of the Quran, the word “space” was not known, and people used the word “heaven” to refer to what lies above the Earth. In the above verse, the word “heaven” is referring to space and the known universe. The verse points out that space, and thus the universe, happens to be expanding, just as Hubble’s Law states.

That the Quran mentioned such a fact centuries before the invention of the first telescope, at a time when there was primitive knowledge in science, is considered remarkable.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#371 Oct 30, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
All these stories i mentioned about Moses and Jesus was just to reach a specific point which is You should get an evidence or proof of the existing of god, that's it ...!!
and As I told you before all I can do to you is bringing some scientific facts from the Quran which were impossible to be known at the time of Mohammed .
I'll start with the expansion theory (Hubble’s Law)
In 1916, Albert Einstein formulated his General Theory of Relativity that indicated that the universe must be either expanding or contracting. Confirmation of the expanding-universe theory finally came in 1929 in the hands of the well known American astronomer Edwin Hubble.
By observing redshifts, in the light wavelengths emitted by galaxies, Hubble found that galaxies were not fixed in their position; instead, they were actually moving away from us with speeds proportional to their distance from earth (Hubble's Law). The only explanation for this observation was that the universe had to be expanding. Hubble’s discovery is regarded as one of the greatest in the history of astronomy. In 1929, he published the velocity-time relation which is the basis of modern cosmology. In the years to come, with further observations, the expanding-universe theory was accepted by scientists and astronomers alike.
Yet, astonishingly well before telescopes were even invented and well before Hubble published his Law, Prophet Muhammad used to recite a verse of the Quran to his companions that ultimately stated that the universe is expanding
Ali Unal translation Quran 51:47
"And the heaven, We have constructed it mightily, and it is surely We Who have vast power, and keep expanding it. "
At the time of the revelation of the Quran, the word “space” was not known, and people used the word “heaven” to refer to what lies above the Earth. In the above verse, the word “heaven” is referring to space and the known universe. The verse points out that space, and thus the universe, happens to be expanding, just as Hubble’s Law states.
That the Quran mentioned such a fact centuries before the invention of the first telescope, at a time when there was primitive knowledge in science, is considered remarkable.
But of course there is no evidence, never has been in all the centuries/millennium of religious belief.

The Qur’an does not contain any scientific facts, the Qur’an contains ideas born of the understanding and belief of 1400 years ago. Science is falsifiable, that is the very basis of science. The Qur’an is not falsifiable therefore not science.

Any resemblance between space and heaven is only born of the need to validate your belief. Is heaven space? And if so then there are several astronaut /cosmonauts who have been and returned to tell the tail. Is not then the story is mute.

Does this not make a mockery of the very concept of heaven?

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#372 Oct 30, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
But of course there is no evidence, never has been in all the centuries/millennium of religious belief.
The Qur’an does not contain any scientific facts, the Qur’an contains ideas born of the understanding and belief of 1400 years ago. Science is falsifiable, that is the very basis of science. The Qur’an is not falsifiable therefore not science.
Any resemblance between space and heaven is only born of the need to validate your belief. Is heaven space? And if so then there are several astronaut /cosmonauts who have been and returned to tell the tail. Is not then the story is mute.
Does this not make a mockery of the very concept of heaven?
but we know that heaven certainly means space because of other verses, not just to fit this scientific fact in this specific verse, I can bring you so many verses which prove that heaven is certainly the space according to the Quran,
you can simply say its a coincidence that the expansion is mentioned in the Quran...!!, and you have to keep in mind that some verses can be explained to bring a specific Rule, preach and has a scientific fact behind all these, if one word was changed it would instantly contradict with other verses.

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#373 Oct 31, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
but we know that heaven certainly means space because of other verses, not just to fit this scientific fact in this specific verse, I can bring you so many verses which prove that heaven is certainly the space according to the Quran,
you can simply say its a coincidence that the expansion is mentioned in the Quran...!!, and you have to keep in mind that some verses can be explained to bring a specific Rule, preach and has a scientific fact behind all these, if one word was changed it would instantly contradict with other verses.
You're lying, there's no such thing as god.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#374 Oct 31, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
but we know that heaven certainly means space because of other verses, not just to fit this scientific fact in this specific verse, I can bring you so many verses which prove that heaven is certainly the space according to the Quran,
you can simply say its a coincidence that the expansion is mentioned in the Quran...!!, and you have to keep in mind that some verses can be explained to bring a specific Rule, preach and has a scientific fact behind all these, if one word was changed it would instantly contradict with other verses.
You don’t know any such thing, you assume based on present day knowledge that space is accessible and exploitable and your personal need to have your god book at least present the image of being rational when compared to that modern knowledge.

These are the same assumptions that many religions make no matter what the god book they care to follow. Christianity has a whole branch called apologetics to deal with such assumptions and to invent new assumptions as and when the need arises. As far as I know Islam leaves it to the intelligence of the individual.

You assume heaven and space are the same, you believe that good souls (well souls that you believe to be good souls) will earn salvation and go to heaven. Consider the number of deaths in that last 1000 years or so (2000 in the case of christianity), a large percentage of which will be “believers” in your (or christian) heaven and the abrahamic god and will (according to certain belief systems) ascended to heaven. Now ask yourself how many souls have astronauts encountered?

Let me ask, does the Qur’an specifically say “space”? Or perhaps it actually says “heavens” and you are assuming space because it makes sense to you now whereas a thousand years ago or even a hundred years ago space was simply pie in the sky?

And you still have not understood the meaning of the word science, whether this is down to lack of literacy education or deliberate ignorance I don’t really know enough about you to tell.

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#375 Oct 31, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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You don’t know any such thing, you assume based on present day knowledge that space is accessible and exploitable and your personal need to have your god book at least present the image of being rational when compared to that modern knowledge.
These are the same assumptions that many religions make no matter what the god book they care to follow. Christianity has a whole branch called apologetics to deal with such assumptions and to invent new assumptions as and when the need arises. As far as I know Islam leaves it to the intelligence of the individual.
You assume heaven and space are the same, you believe that good souls (well souls that you believe to be good souls) will earn salvation and go to heaven. Consider the number of deaths in that last 1000 years or so (2000 in the case of christianity), a large percentage of which will be “believers” in your (or christian) heaven and the abrahamic god and will (according to certain belief systems) ascended to heaven. Now ask yourself how many souls have astronauts encountered?
Let me ask, does the Qur’an specifically say “space”? Or perhaps it actually says “heavens” and you are assuming space because it makes sense to you now whereas a thousand years ago or even a hundred years ago space was simply pie in the sky?
And you still have not understood the meaning of the word science, whether this is down to lack of literacy education or deliberate ignorance I don’t really know enough about you to tell.
The problem with atheists is they always think that Islam or The Quran is similar to other books like the Torah and The Bible,
Quran never contradict with science in anyway, it is proved and well known among a lot of Muslims and non-Muslims scientists, you can check Keith L. Moore the embryologist comments on The Quran, Dr.Maurice Buqaille in fact is a non Muslim scientist who revealed so many facts which were proved only recently by modern science in The Quran and wrote 2 books (The Bible, the Quran and science / and the origin of a man) Dr. maurice clearly says in his book that The Bible contradict with science in so many aspects but the Quran doesn't contradict at all.

its your responsibility to know what you talk about (The Quran) instead of coming here and writing nonsense statements that obviously show you don't have a clue or the least knowledge of it,
I am sure you never read the Quran and didn't even read a single verse in it , yet you expect me to explain a whole book in a comment,you are definitely not on a level of knowledge to discuss Quran, if you are really willing to discuss The Quran with me go read it and read the full explanation then come back and ask me whatever you want otherwise I am not wasting my time over someone who is not willing to do the very minimum of effort.

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