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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3146 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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#2960 Mar 31, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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well, it depends on the content itself not youtube, for instance you can find numerous videos for Stephen Hawkins and your beloved Richard Dawkins on Youtube.
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it's very weird that you try to find evidences and proofs to abolish anything before even checking it out.
the mathematical miracles in the Quran is a new thing to me, so I don't get to answer any of your questions, but I believe everything you questioned in your previous response was perfectly clarified in the same lecture.
There's a reason people buy books by Hawkins and Dawkins, only in written material can really difficult facts be shown and explained. Videos and lectures are light and fluffy but can't give us the depth of knowledge we need.

There are web pages full of alleged scientific and numerical miracles from the quran. People who actually understand science and statistics don't take them seriously.
Mahmood

Brampton, Canada

#2961 Mar 31, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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well, it depends on the content itself not youtube, for instance you can find numerous videos for Stephen Hawkins and your beloved Richard Dawkins on Youtube.
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it's very weird that you try to find evidences and proofs to abolish anything before even checking it out.
the mathematical miracles in the Quran is a new thing to me, so I don't get to answer any of your questions, but I believe everything you questioned in your previous response was perfectly clarified in the same lecture.
Brother Hazem, neither your allah nor his Mohammad was ever capable of any miracles. The Koran is a testimony to this fact, so how can the Koran be a miracle?

017.090 And they say: We will not put faith in thee till thou cause a spring to gush forth from the earth for us;
017.091 Or thou have a garden of date-palms and grapes, and cause rivers to gush forth therein abundantly;
017.092 Or thou cause the heaven to fall upon us piecemeal, as thou hast pretended, or bring Allah and the angels as a warrant;
017.093 Or thou have a house of gold; or thou ascend up into heaven, and even then we will put no faith in thine ascension till thou bring down for us a book that we can read. Say (O Muhammad): My Lord be Glorified! Am I aught save a mortal messenger ?
017.094 And naught prevented mankind from believing when the guidance came unto them save that they said: Hath Allah sent a mortal as (His) messenger ?

So you see brother Hazem, when challenged to perform a miracle, Allah couldn't do it.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#2962 Mar 31, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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I think you are confused EdSed, because I never claimed to be a biologist, on the other hand your spiritual leader Dawkins makes wrong statements about religions to deceive people, he is clearly not a theologian, so why doesn't he mind his own business and keep talking about biology ??
If that is the case, then why are you here criticizing the theory of Evolution?
One does not have to be Chinese to criticize the government of China nor does one have to be American to have an opinion about America. Subjects like religion and politics are supposed to be debated by laymen, regardless if they are ordained priests or not.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#2963 Mar 31, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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and Sharia law, Quran interpreting (fiqh al Quran), Hadith science ...etc take tens of years to study, its not as simple as you think.
if only everyone only talked about his specialty, we'll have a better world.
The Quran is a fictional book. All the bullshyt that is built around is is just that, bullshyt.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#2964 Mar 31, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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I consider you as a normal (or better) intelligent person but that certainly doesn't make you a theologian, you don't even know the basics of any religion.
If that is the case, then most religious people don't have the right to have an opinion on their own religion, because according to you, only theologians can critique religion. That means they have no right to believe since to believe is to offer an opinion.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#2965 Mar 31, 2014
EdSed wrote:
More religion gone mad....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EmdsPLsZpV4XX
Thank god for countries free from serious belief in god(s)
Religion = superstition
Hey, true love hurts.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

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#2966 Mar 31, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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Alright, lets see what is the punishment of treason in your beloved U.K
before 1998
The condemned could not walk or be carried to the place of execution; the sentence required that they were to be drawn: they might be dragged along the ground, but were normally tied onto a hurdle which was drawn to the place of execution by a horse. A man would then be hanged by a noose around the neck, but not so as to die: there would be no "drop" to break the neck. Whilst still alive, he would be cut down and allowed to drop to the ground, stripped of his clothes, his genitals cut off, his viscera pulled out and burnt before his own eyes ....!!!
Women were excluded from this type of punishment and instead were drawn and then burned at the stake, until this was replaced with hanging by the Treason Act 1790
(which for men was drawing and hanging without the torture and quartering, and for women was burning or hanging)
guess what back then the nobles were also persecuted but without torture they were only beheaded ..!!!
here is some progress in 1870 torturing and horrible humiliation was canceled and were replaced by normal executions (hanging and beheading) up to 1949 beheading was abolished by hanging.
P.S: the last execution by BURNING for high treason was in 1789, that's more than a thousand year after the birth of Mohammed ...!!!
after 1998 the punishment of high treason was replaced by imprisonment for life and of course disqualification from public office, and loss of suffrage, if it was me I would prefer death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason_in_...
In Islam the punishment of high treason is a peaceful death, it doesn't contain any burning, drowning, torturing, humiliation, stripping of clothes or cutting of genitals ...!!!
all it takes is one hit by a very sharp sword on the back of your head (the top of the spinal cord) so in seconds the convicted would be dead.
if your people applied sharia law back then they would have spared hundreds of people lots horrible torturing and humiliation.
Read your disgusting history before throwing stones at us.
Treason is betraying your country, not leaving. Apostasy is leaving your religion. Big DIFFERENCE, retard!

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#2967 Mar 31, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
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Treason is betraying your country, not leaving. Apostasy is leaving your religion. Big DIFFERENCE, retard!
wrong, because Islam is a constitution and a complete system, so its exactly like treason, that's why there is no country in the world apply the punishment of apostasy formally, because such a rule cannot be applied until you apply Islam completely, and by completely I am referring to the application of judicial, economical, social, cultural and political systems.

please don't waste my time and yours bringing articles about some individuals' actions.

Peace bro

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#2968 Mar 31, 2014
emperorjohn wrote:
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If that is the case, then most religious people don't have the right to have an opinion on their own religion, because according to you, only theologians can critique religion. That means they have no right to believe since to believe is to offer an opinion.
not necessarily theologians but who wants to talk or criticize religions (any religion not only Islam) should at least have some sort of knowledge, but the problem with atheists in general and particularly spiritual leaders of atheism have a very bad habit which is judging things they have no clue about, lets take you for instance you probably was raised as a christian and someday you found out that the trinity is a myth (which is true) and illogical and that created some kind of a physiological issue to you, hence you started to generalize and put all of religions under one category, now you are probably a 100% sure that all religions are man made, and why not ?? everything you hoped for when you were a kid turned out to be false.

lets put Islam aside, to assure you that I am not trying to promote my religion. what do you know about Buddhism ?? why do you think its a big lie and/or a myth ??

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#2969 Mar 31, 2014
Igor Trip wrote:
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Considering just how good your English is you should realise that the words 'merciful','just' and 'severe' have different meaning and contradict each other.
Allah can forgive all sins except shirk, so no not all rapists go to hell.
39:53 Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
The Quran claiming your God is just is not proof he is just, only that he is claimed to be just.
The main reason the Quran gives for sending people to hell is the crime of not believing in the God. As the Quran is just the word of one man that can hardly be called a crime.
according to your logic there is no one single Just Judge in the whole world, if the judge stopped sending people to prisons and to punishments, how could he be Just ??

you forgot a very important issue in Islam which is the REPENTANCE , it doesn't matter what you did in the past, Islam always gives you the chance to start over by repenting to ALLAH, lets assume that you hurt someone in the past and one day you wanted to fix things up, you can repent but there are conditions to repentance; you should truly regret that particular sin you committed and do righteous, its like an oath between you and god, but what if you committed that particular sin again ?? it might happen as Islam confirms to us that one might get influenced and go back to fornication for instance or anything else, you can again repent to Allah, but each time you should mean it from the bottom of your heart and do righteous again and again.

“But whosoever repents after his crime and does righteous good deeds (by obeying Allaah), then verily, Allaah will pardon him (accept his repentance). Verily, Allaah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful " 5:39

but what if people rights were involved, in different cases such as murdering, raping or whatever, its more likely; if your repentance was authentic Allah will give those victims rewards in heaven in order to forgive you, it would be like " look what a great grade I will give you in heaven if you forgave that slave of mine" , if you didn't repent its more likely that Allah will give some of your good deeds to that victim and if you didn't have any more good deeds left you'll start to take bad deeds from those people you hurt.

if your good deeds exceeded your bad deeds you'll go to heaven and if not then its a bad news.

"Indeed, Allah does not do injustice,[even] as much as an atom's weight; while if there is a good deed, He multiplies it and gives from Himself a great reward." 4:40

"So whoever does an atom's weight of good will see it,
And whoever does an atom's weight of evil will see it." 99:7-8

even if you did as much as an atom's weight of good Allah will multiply it, on the other hand bad deeds are not multiplied.

Of course Allah's mercy exceeds his punishment.

The US Harvard University has posted a verse of the Holy Quran at the entrance of its faculty of law, describing the verse as one of the greatest expressions for justice in history

"O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah , even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. So follow not [personal] inclination, lest you not be just. And if you distort [your testimony] or refuse [to give it], then indeed Allah is ever, with what you do, Acquainted." 4:135

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#2970 Mar 31, 2014
Simon wrote:
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is stoning to death a peaceful execution?
yes of course stoning to death is a peaceful execution, the problem my friend is that you are not thinking out of the box, and you are only looking from a particular angle.

stoning to death in Islam can be applied under proper sharia law (its a very wide subject , maybe we can discuss it later), and can only be applied after a full confession by the convicted or by 4 Eye witnesses and of course its the punishment for having sex outside marriage, if you weren't married; committed adultery and was proved so by whether confession and/or 4 witnesses you'll only get 100 light lashes in public.

you would probably say what a cruel and barbaric law, and all I can tell you is that to look at the number of illegitimate childs
In 2007, nearly 40 percent of babies born in the United States were delivered by unwed mothers. In Europe, the average has risen from one out of four in 1997 to one out of three children born outside wedlock. Figures in Europe range from 5% in Greece and 9% in Cyprus to 58% in Estonia and 64% in Iceland. In Britain the rate is 46%; Ireland is 33.2%.

lets just think of those tens of millions of children who were brought to this life with no families, have you visited an orphanage recently??!!

not to mention the numerous social complications adultery may bring to families, STDS, murders, Divorce, depression....etc

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#2971 Mar 31, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.– Albert Einstein, 24 March 1954
for me the admiration for the structure of the universe is the essence of my beliefs.
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And I was telling you that the quran written hundreds of years after the babble and a thousand years after the Tanakh includes at least some of these manipulations
I am not interested in 1400 years old garbage, there are irrelevant to today. Unless of course you can provide evidence to prove that any god created anything, yet alone a fly.
I cannot discuss with you something you haven't read, it would be illogical, and in answer to your response the Quran came down to correct the mistakes and to remove the fabrications and manipulations in both the Bible and the Tankah.

forget the evidence and take a simple challenge from the Quran, Just create one single fly, and I promise I'll be the first one to worship you ...!!
ChristineM wrote:
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I do however have dyslexia (a disability) and as a child who could not read or write I was considered a moronic write off by good religious folks who really understood how to handle disability. I have overcome that difficulty with my own hard work and determination, much to the chagrin of their belief in the abrahmic god (your god). You can of course, with absolutely no evidence and absolutely no reason but blind faith give the credit to your god, not actually realising how you mentally demean the intellect of person you are debasing. Just one more of many reasons why I could not buy into your dreams of goddiit all wiv magic. Yet this is something else you could not understand.
and who exactly implemented mercy in your parents hearts?? you say you have a good health care system ..!! where did all those medical rules come from ?? that's too much to credit for a coincidence, don't you think.

so you have dyslexia, and you still don't understand that this disease may be the best thing ever happened to you, that disease may have stimulated you to do your best and here you are after years of hard working became a very successful business woman, we should always thank god for everything good and bad, because what appears to be bad may actually be better for us on the long run, I mean well, don't get furious.
ChristineM wrote:
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I know Muslims have in the past done a great deal in these fields as I have told you on several occasions. Some Muslims are even now at the forefront of science and particularly mathematics, not because they are Muslim but because they consider their vocation above their faith. That does not make fundamental Islam the be all and end all of scientific endeavour,
its really weird that every time you find a Muslim doing the right thing you claim that he/she is not practicing Islam, on the other hand when you read an article with a big Title "a Muslim killed 5 civilians" you claim that he is applying Islam although he is breaking every clear law and teaching in Islam, its like saying lets just take everything a bad Muslim do and ignore the true Muslim.
ChristineM wrote:
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it is not the Islamic faith holding back science it is fundamentalism of all faiths
So if not magic then how, example, according to genesis there was nothing and your god created something. HOW? WHAT WITH? WHER DID HE STAND? Nothing remember… You always
when I reached the word genesis I stopped reading, the Quranic view on God is way different than the Bible and the Tankah, remember my words the Quran came down to confirm some true parts, to correct mistakes and to abolish fabrications and manipulations in both The Babble and the Tankah.

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#2972 Mar 31, 2014
Thinking wrote:
That's why islam is a religion for scum. Any religion that threatens death if you leave it will breed violent scum. The sort of scum that think suicide bombers are cool.
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its whether you are an islamophobic or going through a midlife crisis, its more likely you are an islamophobic, Don't worry man nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to recite the testimony.

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion.." 2:256
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#2973 Mar 31, 2014
Yet the penalty for apostasy from islam is death.

I'm not islamophobic. I know your religion is evil but I am not irrationally fearful.
You, however, have an irrational fear of a fictional hell.
hazem selawi wrote:
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its whether you are an islamophobic or going through a midlife crisis, its more likely you are an islamophobic, Don't worry man nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to recite the testimony.
"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion.." 2:256

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#2975 Mar 31, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Yet the penalty for apostasy from islam is death.
I'm not islamophobic. I know your religion is evil but I am not irrationally fearful.
You, however, have an irrational fear of a fictional hell.
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you know my religion is Evil, so shall I assume that you read the Quran and Hadiths ??
you are islamophobic and someday you are gonna have to face your fear.
Mujahid means COWARD

Perryton, TX

#2977 Mar 31, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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you know my religion is Evil, so shall I assume that you read the Quran and Hadiths ??
you are islamophobic and someday you are gonna have to face your fear.
Actually, sparks, i HAVE read the koran and the hadiths (Bukhari, Muslim, some of Dawud) and i know that all the evil things are true. You lose. Islam is false. You have been deceived. Leave the cult now, while there's time.

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#2978 Mar 31, 2014
Mujahid means COWARD wrote:
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Actually, sparks, i HAVE read the koran and the hadiths (Bukhari, Muslim, some of Dawud) and i know that all the evil things are true. You lose. Islam is false. You have been deceived. Leave the cult now, while there's time.
Maybe I should leave Islam and join you in believing in a higher power with no details, lets just believe in an unknown higher power ...!!

Its whether you are a christian and too embarrassed to admit it or a former christian who is thinking of becoming an atheist.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2979 Apr 1, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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for me the admiration for the structure of the universe is the essence of my beliefs.
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I cannot discuss with you something you haven't read, it would be illogical, and in answer to your response the Quran came down to correct the mistakes and to remove the fabrications and manipulations in both the Bible and the Tankah.
forget the evidence and take a simple challenge from the Quran, Just create one single fly, and I promise I'll be the first one to worship you ...!!
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And I too admire the chaos of nature, difference is I understand the natural processes that built it and so don’t need to give any myth the credit.

Wrong, the quran was written for no other reason than power and control. It had nothing to do with any mistakes. Babble scholars will say the quran is full or errors and Quran scholars will say the same of the babble. It’s all part of the ongoing war you mentioned yesterday. Please tell how illiterate Mo and his followers had any information on what was and what was not a mistake in a book written a thousand years previously. All Mo had to go on was the rhetoric of preachers. You place far too much trust in the propaganda of goddunit, but hay, ho…that’s what religious faith is all about.

After you have created a fly (after all you have you god to help you) then I will follow suit, until then god magic is irrelevant.

Contrary to your wish, my parents are human,– live with it.

What medical rules? The “do no harm” rule? Was voiced by Hippocrates about 900 years before your religion was thought of.

Before that, long before that. Long before not only your religion but before the Hebrews even thought of the god that gave rise to your religion there were physicians and ‘places of healing’ documented in Egypt about 3000 BC

And yes I do think which is the very reason we are having this discussion so don’t try taking the credit for health care.

I can assume that you do not have any disabilities and that you are a frigging ignorant godbot. FYI, a disability, any disability can not be classed as the best of anything even if it does big up your god dunit BS. It seems that when you cannot explain anything you say goddunit, and I can assure you that ‘god made you stupid’ is no way to build a child’s confidence. All any belief in god can be given credit for is stimulating the hatred that mocked disability.

Why should we thank god for child abuse? Only yesterday the UK govt announced plans to introduce a law to prohibit emotional cruelty to children. It is god that engenders the hatred that religions feel for those who are different.

You will also note that even here on topix in the 21st century there are some good religious arseholes who mock disability, I face such abuse at least once per week.

Religion is responsible for more death than any other cause bar for natural death and the mosquito, this is the result of religious intolerance of difference, any difference be it physical, mental or spiritual.

Why is it weird that I call a Muslim a Muslim? A christian a christian etc. Each have there own ideas and interpretations. A Muslims interpretation of the quran will be different than a christians interpretation of the babble but in some cases both are willing to kill for those interpretations.

Who gives a toss what your view of god is? Do you believe your god created the earth? Yes then genesis (if even by another name) is relevant.

And your propaganda is irrelevant. All religions that worship a creator god (and there are have been around 2800 in recorded history) believe their god was right. I don’t really care if you have to justify your faith with misinformation and big up, it’s all unprovable hype anyway.
Mujahid means COWARD

Perryton, TX

#2980 Apr 1, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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Maybe I should leave Islam and join you in believing in a higher power with no details, lets just believe in an unknown higher power ...!!
Its whether you are a christian and too embarrassed to admit it or a former christian who is thinking of becoming an atheist.
My belief in an unknown higher power is certainly more rational than a belief in a god who encourages marriage to six year olds, rape of female prisoners, murder of apostates and blasphemers, and general maltreatment of women. To believe in a god like THAT is to put your belief in an obviously false god. Which is what YOU are doing. Your murderous, lying god is inferior to any sense or image of a TRUE god. And anyone is capable of seeing this...anyone that's not brainwashed by the cult of islam, that is

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2981 Apr 1, 2014
Mujahid means COWARD wrote:
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My belief in an unknown higher power is certainly more rational than a belief in a god who encourages marriage to six year olds, rape of female prisoners, murder of apostates and blasphemers, and general maltreatment of women. To believe in a god like THAT is to put your belief in an obviously false god. Which is what YOU are doing. Your murderous, lying god is inferior to any sense or image of a TRUE god. And anyone is capable of seeing this...anyone that's not brainwashed by the cult of islam, that is
Not sure what you consider the true god but you need to realise that the Hebrew, Christian and Muslim god are all the same myth. Only the methods of worship change.

This is the same god who murdered the entire population (human and animal) of earth except a few close buddies and some 18 or so million animals.

This is the same child killing god who murdered the first born of Egypt

This is the same god that condones slavery and rape and misogyny and theft and torture and murder of anyone who does not want to bow down to the murdering god of the Tanakh, the babble and the quran.

But perhaps you worship one of the other 3400 gods that have been claimed by humanity throughout out its history.

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