Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

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"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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Sorry brother, I cannot agree with you on this. I am talking about 2:62 contradicting 4:150-151. You guys claim that the "Koran is the perfect word of Allah". Let me tell you, that this "perfect word" of Allah has a contradiction which you have been unable to solve.
I don't enjoy rubbing salt on wounds. You either solve the contradiction or we move on to another discussion.
My point was that if you read verse 4:43 you'll realize that the Quran doesn't prohibit drinking Alcohol because the verse clearly says do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated (Drunk) " O you who have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know what you are saying".

according to your logic if we only depended on that verse, Alcohol will become lawful as long as you are not approaching prayers , but there is a technique (used at the time of Mohammed) which is called abrogation, so the point is if we went back to the historical context you'll find out that this verse was revealed before the full prohibition of Alcohol and later on other verses went down to fully prohibit Alcohol, it took 4 phases till alcohol was prohibited completely because as you know Arabs were used to drink Alcohol and Allah's wisdom and will showed us how to solve that problem gradually.

- the first stage and the first revealed verse regarding alcohol:

"And from the fruits of the palm trees and grapevines you take intoxicant and good provision."
16:76

-the second verse and the second phase:

"They ask you about wine and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they should spend. Say, "The excess [beyond needs]." Thus Allah makes clear to you the verses [of revelation] that you might give thought. " 2:219

so some people left [alcohol] saying, "We have no need for that in which there is great sin," and some did not leave it saying, "We take [from its] benefit and we leave its sin.

-third phase and third revealed verse:

" O you who have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know what you are saying...." 4:43

So some people left it saying, "We have no need for that which distracts us from the prayer," and some drank it outside the times of prayer.

the final phase and the most important verse to fully prohibit drinking Alcohol:

"O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling,[sacrificing on] stone alters [to other than Allah ], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful. " 5:90

finally became fully prohibited for them and some of them said, "Allah did not prohibit anything as strictly as alcohol."

anyways the banning of Alcohol in Islam is one of the most important rules and Muslims knew about it by abrogation, hence you cannot interpret verses without taking in consideration historical context and you certainly should link verses to each other in order to understand Quran, you keep saying that this subject has nothing to do with our discussion, brother Mahmoud you cannot bring verse 2:62 and refuse to link it to other verses which clearly defines true and false Christians, if you want to understand verse 2:62 you should find all the other verses in the Quran which mention Christians and Jews and put them all together in order to understand it, its not a coincidence that verse 2:62 was translated Christian and Jews (before Mohammed).

I hope you get my point, because you are killing me by ignoring the very simple and the most important rules of interpreting the Quran, and as I made it clear that according to your logic not only Alcohol but even adultery may become lawful in Islam...!!

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I am fully aware of the status of women in religion but you said "...believe it or not some scientists during the Dark Ages in Europe debated the nature of woman, some said women cannot be humans and are Evil spirits."
My question to you was who are these scientists and how did you find out about them.
Please keep in mind I am not saying you are wrong. I really just want a source on how you discovered that.
theologians could be considered as scientists at that time, since they controlled everything, and for the source you'll find out numerous sources in that link I gave you regarding the opinions of so many theologians about women, In 586 AD a conference was held in France to determine whether woman should be considered a human being or not (human being or not ..!!) After a long discussion it was decided that woman is a human being that was created to be at the service of man, I apologize I thought they decided women weren't human beings.

But after it seems like back then hated women more than evil spirits ..!!!you can read " the short history of women" by John Langdon, or google Scold's bridle, or Chastity belts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity_belt
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theologians could be considered as scientists at that time, since they controlled everything, and for the source you'll find out numerous sources in that link I gave you regarding the opinions of so many theologians about women, In 586 AD a conference was held in France to determine whether woman should be considered a human being or not (human being or not ..!!) After a long discussion it was decided that woman is a human being that was created to be at the service of man, I apologize I thought they decided women weren't human beings.
But after it seems like back then hated women more than evil spirits ..!!!you can read " the short history of women" by John Langdon, or google Scold's bridle, or Chastity belts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity_belt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold 's_bridle
Hm, I feel like I may have a connection to the French. Haha. Mostly in the fear of them more so than any spirit. I mean, seriously, they don't make any sense. ;)

I do feel the term science or scientist is a bit broad. I wouldn't consider a theologian nor a philosopher scientists.

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Nobody in the whole world so far could disprove the existence of a creator, and when you ask an atheist to disprove the existence of god, he/she will say something stupid like I cannot disprove the existence of pink midgets either ...!!
your spiritual leaders like Richard Dawkins taught you to use illogical and twisted ways to run away from direct answers, so when someone clearly ask you how did the universe come to existence you jump to a whole different subject like pink midgets, you act like its a very usual and logical thing for something to come out of nothing ..!!
Science has progressed by understanding just how little we actually know and then by observations and experiments expanding upon that knowledge.
Dawkins is honest because he admits to what he doesn't know. Religion just makes stuff up.

If an incredibly powerful and intelligent entity can just exist without explanation then so can the universe.
Your God is not a explanation, he another unexplained problem and yes he does need explaining.

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Christine, Hazem quoted a verse from the Koran 4:43 that tells muslims to clean themselves with earth/sand in places where there is not water available. Would you know if sand/earth has any cleaning compound or chemicals?
Earth tends to be a bit mucky, after all, it comprises for the most part of millions of years of death and decay of organic compounds.

Sand is a good scourer but is also non too clean, it too holding a fair proportion of decaying matter.

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hahaha what a funny joke, missionaries will not turn Muslims into Christians and they may convert those worshiping locals ..!! then why did they write tens of thousands of books full of fabrications and lies about Mohammed and the Quran and distributed them in Africa, India and Indonesia, do you know that lots of Christians learned the Hindi language to trick people and destroy their beliefs , of course muslims have strong beliefs and no one can turn them into another religion easily, so that's why they started to take advantage of the conditions those Muslims were living under, some of them said lets just take the food in order to live and we'll claim that we are Christians, but by time the second and the third generations will lose their Islam and will certainly forget that there ancestors were Muslims and that's why there are now over 60 million Muslims Joined Christianity, it takes time.
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What an accurate way to find the truth ...!!! Google naked and you'll get 174,000,000 results
in .24 seconds ...!!

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Why do you consider other believers in your faith to be lesser than you are?

Why they write the books is exactly the same reason Muslims write books, to earn royalties. You have such a limited view of commercialism.

Can you prove lies? you canít even prove the Quran is truth so donít play the incredulous hypocrite. BTW. Is not the quran given away free to any who want it?

Note, Hindi is not Muslim. You would just as happily suicide bomb a Hindu gathering as you would a christian gathering. And why in India the largest Hindu country in the world that was once a member of the British empire is the christian faith only 2% of the population and they are ridiculed as half breads because they are the offspring of Imperial British. Yet in that same Hindu country those converted from Hindi to Islam is over 13%. May I suggest that unless you know what you are talking about then shut the fook up.

Still christianity is declining and Islam is growing, do you have an explanation for this disparity that contradicts what you claim?

I did not claim accuracy, I claimed fact and for comparison I also searched the alternative of ďchristian books against islamĒ. There were 470 million results, which is a pretty good relationship considering the populations of Christian and Islamic peoples. The idea was and was proven to say YOU ARE JUST AS GUILTY.

So you are saying that the story of Adam and Eve being expelled from the Garden of Eden for eating forbidden fruit is not in the Quran? Honey, who was blamed is pretty irrelevant in the context of the story.

And I am not surprised that some god thralled scientist (for want of a better term) in the dark ages claimed women as evil, it is after all what your god and your prophet dictates and who was man enough to go against the teachings of the god book? It was tried in christianity and you may be surprised you know, despite the lies of Pope John Paul II that the religious council responsible for the inquisition still exists. Renamed several times and now known as ďthe Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the FaithĒ. One cardinal who recently directed its affairs became Pope Benedict XVI.

Say what? Have you lost it? What conspiracy theory is this? all the prophets were Muslim? Wow, a thousand years before Islam was even a twinkle in Moís eye. They were for the most part of one cult of Hebrew or another. They worshiped the abrahamic god in the name of YHWH or Ei or Elohim or one of the many other names they had for god, none of those names was Allah

You say this but I have heard that different versions of the quran exist, Perhaps Mahmood can enlighten you. Certainly there are some difference between the Hafs and Warsh versions so obviously someone has changed letters, words etc.

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Nobody in the whole world so far could disprove the existence of a creator, and when you ask an atheist to disprove the existence of god, he/she will say something stupid like I cannot disprove the existence of pink midgets either ...!!
your spiritual leaders like Richard Dawkins taught you to use illogical and twisted ways to run away from direct answers, so when someone clearly ask you how did the universe come to existence you jump to a whole different subject like pink midgets, you act like its a very usual and logical thing for something to come out of nothing ..!!
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Ahh, a tricky one, but I consider it wrong. Einstein certainly disproved that the god described in the KJV babble, revelation 19:6 cannot exits in this universe at the same time as matter. Considering itís the abrahmic god you worship then thatís good enough for me.

Honey, you are the one making the claim for a god, prove your claim. I know a pink midget, but she prefers to be known as a little person and would be very upset if she heard you call her a midget. The term midget is so derogatory donít you think? Perhaps you meant pink elephant.

I donít really follow dawkins, but none the less his theories are for the most part proven, unlike goddunit wiv magic that isnít.

Nope when someone asks me how the universe came into existence I consider the theories of quantum science that are mathematically sound and fundamental to what we actually know and hence the ďprobableĒ cause. I certainly do not say,ďdoh, I donít know so it must be my god wot done itĒ

It is actually very logical for something to come from nothing (or a given degree of nothing). There is nothing in science to prevent it, the laws of quantum physics show it is possible and even experimentally feasible, and the laws of cause and effect did not coalesce until after the event. That you donít comprehend, although understandable because they are unusual concepts that go against what is usually taught is you own problem.

You will notice that war is not fought without weapons so your point is rather pathetic. No one went to war without weapons

Say what? My logic Ė you are making accusation based on guesswork that are total lying BS, According to my logic there is no god to feed those in need so itís up to us to do it. If you think 5% of income for the very richest is good enough to appease your god than that is up to you.

Honey, I do my best by relying on myself. I am successful because I have worked at it. No god required and I find the idea of a god crutch insulting and that you imply my own ability is not enough is really quite rude and ignorant

I know what muslims were doing, strides in science within the limitations imposed by their god book and art, such wonderful art, in what you mistakenly call the dark ages. And as it happens so to was the western world making progress in what you call the dark ages, despite the christian church efforts to hold it back knowledge. Recent discoveries are rewriting out picture of the ďdark ageĒ
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/...

Sure Muslims were advancing science and mathematics, and several of the best mathematicians I know of are Muslim. However in the field of science it seems that Muslims have reached their limit unless they chose to disinherit there teaching form the quran

That makes no difference to the fact that the industrial revolution began in NW England, probably with the help of mathematics developed in the east and bolstered with Scottish ingenuity.
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My point was that if you read verse 4:43 you'll realize that the Quran doesn't prohibit drinking Alcohol because the verse clearly says do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated (Drunk) " O you who have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know what you are saying".
according to your logic if we only depended on that verse, Alcohol will become lawful as long as you are not approaching prayers , but there is a technique (used at the time of Mohammed) which is called abrogation, so the point is if we went back to the historical context you'll find out that this verse was revealed before the full prohibition of Alcohol and later on other verses went down to fully prohibit Alcohol, it took 4 phases till alcohol was prohibited completely because as you know Arabs were used to drink Alcohol and Allah's wisdom and will showed us how to solve that problem gradually.
- the first stage and the first revealed verse regarding alcohol:
"And from the fruits of the palm trees and grapevines you take intoxicant and good provision."
16:76
-the second verse and the second phase:
"They ask you about wine and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they should spend. Say, "The excess [beyond needs]." Thus Allah makes clear to you the verses [of revelation] that you might give thought. " 2:219
so some people left [alcohol] saying, "We have no need for that in which there is great sin," and some did not leave it saying, "We take [from its] benefit and we leave its sin.
-third phase and third revealed verse:
" O you who have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know what you are saying...." 4:43
So some people left it saying, "We have no need for that which distracts us from the prayer," and some drank it outside the times of prayer.
the final phase and the most important verse to fully prohibit drinking Alcohol:
"O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling,[sacrificing on] stone alters [to other than Allah ], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful. " 5:90
finally became fully prohibited for them and some of them said, "Allah did not prohibit anything as strictly as alcohol."
anyways the banning of Alcohol in Islam is one of the most important rules and Muslims knew about it by abrogation, hence you cannot interpret verses without taking in consideration historical context and you certainly should link verses to each other in order to understand Quran, you keep saying that this subject has nothing to do with our discussion, brother Mahmoud you cannot bring verse 2:62 and refuse to link it to other verses which clearly defines true and false Christians, if you want to understand verse 2:62 you should find all the other verses in the Quran which mention Christians and Jews and put them all together in order to understand it, its not a coincidence that verse 2:62 was translated Christian and Jews (before Mohammed).
I hope you get my point, because you are killing me by ignoring the very simple and the most important rules of interpreting the Quran, and as I made it clear that according to your logic not only Alcohol but even adultery may become lawful in Islam...!!
Before I respond to the rest of your post, who in Allah's opinion is a true Christian, Jew, & Sabian?
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Earth tends to be a bit mucky, after all, it comprises for the most part of millions of years of death and decay of organic compounds.
Sand is a good scourer but is also non too clean, it too holding a fair proportion of decaying matter.
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Ahh, a tricky one, but I consider it wrong. Einstein certainly disproved that the god described in the KJV babble, revelation 19:6 cannot exits in this universe at the same time as matter. Considering itís the abrahmic god you worship then thatís good enough for me.
Honey, you are the one making the claim for a god, prove your claim. I know a pink midget, but she prefers to be known as a little person and would be very upset if she heard you call her a midget. The term midget is so derogatory donít you think? Perhaps you meant pink elephant.
I donít really follow dawkins, but none the less his theories are for the most part proven, unlike goddunit wiv magic that isnít.
Nope when someone asks me how the universe came into existence I consider the theories of quantum science that are mathematically sound and fundamental to what we actually know and hence the ďprobableĒ cause. I certainly do not say,ďdoh, I donít know so it must be my god wot done itĒ
It is actually very logical for something to come from nothing (or a given degree of nothing). There is nothing in science to prevent it, the laws of quantum physics show it is possible and even experimentally feasible, and the laws of cause and effect did not coalesce until after the event. That you donít comprehend, although understandable because they are unusual concepts that go against what is usually taught is you own problem.
You will notice that war is not fought without weapons so your point is rather pathetic. No one went to war without weapons
Say what? My logic Ė you are making accusation based on guesswork that are total lying BS, According to my logic there is no god to feed those in need so itís up to us to do it. If you think 5% of income for the very richest is good enough to appease your god than that is up to you.
Honey, I do my best by relying on myself. I am successful because I have worked at it. No god required and I find the idea of a god crutch insulting and that you imply my own ability is not enough is really quite rude and ignorant
I know what muslims were doing, strides in science within the limitations imposed by their god book and art, such wonderful art, in what you mistakenly call the dark ages. And as it happens so to was the western world making progress in what you call the dark ages, despite the christian church efforts to hold it back knowledge. Recent discoveries are rewriting out picture of the ďdark ageĒ
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/...
Sure Muslims were advancing science and mathematics, and several of the best mathematicians I know of are Muslim. However in the field of science it seems that Muslims have reached their limit unless they chose to disinherit there teaching form the quran
That makes no difference to the fact that the industrial revolution began in NW England, probably with the help of mathematics developed in the east and bolstered with Scottish ingenuity.
No, Chrissy, Einstein's relativity proves nothing about the existence of any god.

It doesn't even say anything about the possible existence.

Your mind is convoluted.

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theologians could be considered as scientists at that time, since they controlled everything, and for the source you'll find out numerous sources in that link I gave you regarding the opinions of so many theologians about women, In 586 AD a conference was held in France to determine whether woman should be considered a human being or not (human being or not ..!!) After a long discussion it was decided that woman is a human being that was created to be at the service of man, I apologize I thought they decided women weren't human beings.
But after it seems like back then hated women more than evil spirits ..!!!you can read " the short history of women" by John Langdon, or google Scold's bridle, or Chastity belts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity_belt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold 's_bridle
Hi Hazel dude.

You should not argue with Christine. She has very weird beliefs.

I say this to a guy who believes Allah jumped over the moon or some shit like that. Bwahahah...

I mean not a fence.

I believe I am a hole in the flute God breaths through.

Together with others, the music is good.

Absolute Salami, man.

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Ahh, a tricky one, but I consider it wrong. Einstein certainly disproved that the god described in the KJV babble, revelation 19:6 cannot exits in this universe at the same time as matter. Considering itís the abrahmic god you worship then thatís good enough for me.
Honey, you are the one making the claim for a god, prove your claim. I know a pink midget, but she prefers to be known as a little person and would be very upset if she heard you call her a midget. The term midget is so derogatory donít you think? Perhaps you meant pink elephant.
I donít really follow dawkins, but none the less his theories are for the most part proven, unlike goddunit wiv magic that isnít.
Nope when someone asks me how the universe came into existence I consider the theories of quantum science that are mathematically sound and fundamental to what we actually know and hence the ďprobableĒ cause. I certainly do not say,ďdoh, I donít know so it must be my god wot done itĒ
It is actually very logical for something to come from nothing (or a given degree of nothing). There is nothing in science to prevent it, the laws of quantum physics show it is possible and even experimentally feasible, and the laws of cause and effect did not coalesce until after the event. That you donít comprehend, although understandable because they are unusual concepts that go against what is usually taught is you own problem.
You will notice that war is not fought without weapons so your point is rather pathetic. No one went to war without weapons
Say what? My logic Ė you are making accusation based on guesswork that are total lying BS, According to my logic there is no god to feed those in need so itís up to us to do it. If you think 5% of income for the very richest is good enough to appease your god than that is up to you.
Honey, I do my best by relying on myself. I am successful because I have worked at it. No god required and I find the idea of a god crutch insulting and that you imply my own ability is not enough is really quite rude and ignorant
I know what muslims were doing, strides in science within the limitations imposed by their god book and art, such wonderful art, in what you mistakenly call the dark ages. And as it happens so to was the western world making progress in what you call the dark ages, despite the christian church efforts to hold it back knowledge. Recent discoveries are rewriting out picture of the ďdark ageĒ
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/...
Sure Muslims were advancing science and mathematics, and several of the best mathematicians I know of are Muslim. However in the field of science it seems that Muslims have reached their limit unless they chose to disinherit there teaching form the quran
That makes no difference to the fact that the industrial revolution began in NW England, probably with the help of mathematics developed in the east and bolstered with Scottish ingenuity.

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No, Chrissy, Einstein's relativity proves nothing about the existence of any god.
It doesn't even say anything about the possible existence.
Your mind is convoluted.
No, Bucky wooky, first WTF has any theory of relativity got to do with E=MC^2 apart from your deliberate stupidity? E=MC^2 is not any of the theories of relativity. E=MC^2 is the mass/energy equivalence formula

It is not a theory of any sort, it is a formula, that works and to prove it you posted your post, you exist, the earth exists, in fact every mass known to exist in this universe exists. Therefore energy although there is a lot of it cannot be infinite, no matter how hard you stamp your foot

And because that mathematics shows that KYV revelation 19:6 is total BS is not my problem, how you reconcile the facts is entirely up to you. But we know how you reconcile facts that mess with your wet dreams, donít we? You ignore them in the hope that they will go away

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Not surprised, I suspected RR and the great god buck were getting it off together, but when RR said he had ED that threw me a little. Perhaps like a good catholic priest our buck has a harem of young choir boys on the side.

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Hi Hazel dude.
You should not argue with Christine. She has very weird beliefs.
I say this to a guy who believes Allah jumped over the moon or some shit like that. Bwahahah...
I mean not a fence.
I believe I am a hole in the flute God breaths through.
Together with others, the music is good.
Absolute Salami, man.
As opposed to you who has the most perfect beliefs?

Belief that energy has nothing to do with power.

Belief that god done it with magic Ė which incidentally explains the first idiocy

Belief that one archbishop outweighs the word of three popes

Believe that Hitler was not christian

Belief that of one claimed overheard teenage statement made Stalin an atheist

Best of all Belief that youtube is evidence of god

Oh yes and your believe Hazem worships a different god than you.

And that hole that you believe your god breathes through is youíre butt hole and sure it breathes a lot

When you mother taught you to breathe you should have realised that in through your nose and out through your a$$ will cause problems in public

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Hm, I feel like I may have a connection to the French. Haha. Mostly in the fear of them more so than any spirit. I mean, seriously, they don't make any sense. ;)

yes you should fear those racists bastards, they claim to have freedom of speech and democracy, but still banned Hijab in public places, in france women can wear whatever they want except for Hijab ...!!!

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I do feel the term science or scientist is a bit broad. I wouldn't consider a theologian nor a philosopher scientists.
But Socrates, Hippocrates and Galen were all philosophers and with no doubt wrote about religions and beliefs as well.

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Science has progressed by understanding just how little we actually know and then by observations and experiments expanding upon that knowledge.
Dawkins is honest because he admits to what he doesn't know. Religion just makes stuff up.
If an incredibly powerful and intelligent entity can just exist without explanation then so can the universe.
Your God is not a explanation, he another unexplained problem and yes he does need explaining.
I don't have any problem with Dawkins works as long as he talks about science or whatever, but he doesn't have the right to talk about religions and particularly Islam, because its obvious he doesn't have a clue about what he is saying, lets take the title of that thread as an example, he claimed that God of the Quran is Evil ,the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

Now in real life if you met someone and wanted to form an impression about that person, lets just say you met someone and found him generous, how would you reach to that conclusion ??? the answer is very simple you should take in consideration all of his attributes and adjectives, you'll find in the Quran that Allah calls himself a severe in penalty but that doesn't mean to take that particular attribute and throw others away, you should say Allah is severe in penalty but Just and Merciful at the same time along with the rest 96 attributes.

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Before I respond to the rest of your post, who in Allah's opinion is a true Christian, Jew, & Sabian?
in order to know what the Quran says about Christians, Jews and Sabians you should bring all the Quranic verses that mention any of them.
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hazem selawi wrote:
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...[Dawkins] he doesn't have the right to talk about religions and particularly Islam, because its obvious he doesn't have a clue about what he is saying,....
Replace 'Dawkins' with 'Hazem Salawi' and I agree with you.

Dawkins has the same rights as you and can talk about Islam as can you. Who knows most about it is a matter for individual judgement, but of course and Islamist wouldn't understand what I have just written.

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