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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3146 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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Thinking

Royston, UK

#255 Oct 24, 2013
I did the mathematics on the Hiroshima and Nagasaki explosions when I was a child and was amazed how much energy is created by very small masses when compared to eating a much heavier bag of chips.

Nice video of the proof here:

warner wrote:
<quoted text>Can You prove it exists?

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#256 Oct 24, 2013
Thinking wrote:
And this is precisely why your airlines have to buy planes from non islamic countries.
Believe what you want. Science can't hear you.
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man i never claimed that we are supposed to take science from the Quran, I only was going to discuss some scientific facts were proved in recent science and mentioned precisely in The quran 1400 years ago.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#257 Oct 24, 2013
So what? A broken clock may be correct twice a day.
hazem selawi wrote:
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man i never claimed that we are supposed to take science from the Quran, I only was going to discuss some scientific facts were proved in recent science and mentioned precisely in The quran 1400 years ago.

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#258 Oct 24, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So what? A broken clock may be correct twice a day.
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hahaha nice metaphor , the best i've ever read

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#259 Oct 24, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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hahaha nice metaphor , the best i've ever read
Write about as many random things as possible and you will eventually be correct, but lazy and imprecise.

Science proves using evidence and logic, something which a proofless cult cannot and fears.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#260 Oct 24, 2013
One of my favourite broadcasters over here is Iraqi born Jim Al-Khalili. Jim has made programmes for the BBC regarding medieval Arabic science. I am not ignorant of your past. I just wonder why islam is so anti science today.

Jim's podcasts are here: http://www.jimal-khalili.com/podcasts
hazem selawi wrote:
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hahaha nice metaphor , the best i've ever read
Amused

Lowell, MA

#261 Oct 24, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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Semen DOES NOT COME from the testicles, period! It is neither produced in the testicles, nor does it come from the testicles during the time of coitus!
And that is a scientific fact! Thirteen centuries ago even the scientific community thought that semen is produced in the testicles. A pity! Mr. Shamoum thinks so even today.
The semen contains many things. Between 95 to 98% of it consists of fructose, prostaglandin hormones, metal and salt ions, lipids, steroid hormones, enzymes, basic amines, and amino acids. All those are produced from the glands located in abdomen. Between 2 to 5% of it consists of the sperms produced in the testicles.
Does the Quran say the semen is produced in the kidneys?
Absolutely not!
It says simply that man is created from the liquid that is ejaculated. During coitus that liquid springs from the abdomen (“between the ribcage and the spine”). That is a scientific fact!
1400 years ago, even doctors thought semen springs from the testicles during coitus. They were wrong of course! Recent discoveries have proven them wrong!
Semen is stored in vesicles that lie in the abdomen. From there it is ejaculated during coitus. Lay people still think that the ejaculate comes from the testicles.
The Quran does not say where semen is produced. Just where it comes from during coitus!
In fact, if the Quran had said that the semen is produced in the abdomen,(“between the ribcage and the spine”), and not the testicles, it would still be accurate. At least 95 to 98% accurate! Only 2-5% of the semen is contributed by the testicles. The rest is produced in the glands located in the pelvic cavity.
But the Quran does not say where the semen is produced, because the Quran is not 98% accurate. It is 100% ACCURATE!
What does the Quran really say?
Question: What is it that man is created from? Answer:
(He is) created from the surging fluid! 87:6
The Exact Arabic words are just four:“Khuliqa minm Maain Daafiq”
Khuliqa = created ; Minm = from
Maain = liquid, fluid, juice, water ; Daafiq = anything that flows out, gushes out, pours out, wells out, sheds.(From the Hans Wehr Arabic to English Dictionary)
The Standard Arabic to Arabic dictionaries also mention: anything that surges or bounces. For instance a “daafiq” ball would be a “bouncing ball”
“Maain Daafiq” is a surging fluid, gushing water, the liquid that pours out, or any combination of the words for “maain” and “daafiq” mentioned above.
Famous translators have rendered these four words as:
“Created from a drop emitted”(Yusuf Ali).“Created from a gushing fluid”(Pickthal).“Water pouring forth”(Shakir).“Created from a fluid poured forth”(Zafraullah khan).“Spurt of water”(Hamidullah).
Arabic speakers can really appreciate the beauty of these four words!
The Quran does not use the word ‘sperm’, nor the word ‘semen’, nor does it say anything about the production of semen or sperm.
The emphasis is clearly on the word ‘daafiq’, the surging, the welling out, the pouring forth, the shedding, and the flowing out of the fluid.
Simply put, it is the ejaculate that fertilizes. And that is the simple truth. The simple scientific truth!
Bat.Sh*t.Crazy.
LCNLin

United States

#262 Oct 24, 2013
Dawkins an agnostic hawking book on media.
warner

Alloa, UK

#263 Oct 24, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Well it isn't obvious, so your god, if it existed, is a piss poor communicator. Why?
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Some people are born physically blind or deaf, some have excellent vision and hearing, most people have variations in their hearing and eyesight. It is similar with spiritual vision and hearing, some people are totally blind and deaf such as yourself. The proof is in what you told me, that you cannot see or hear God. Some people are colour blind and it's just one of those things. Now we are going round in circles as that is the point l first started at, writing about a missing component in people who don't believe in God.

That is the reason why I believe that people should never be blamed and murdered for not believing in God because they cannot help it that they were born spiritually blind and deaf. Christianity does not kill atheists, but unfortunately, l know of a Religion that does, and l hope that you will never personally encounter it.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#264 Oct 24, 2013
Wrong. I was brought up as a christard. I got better.
warner wrote:
<quoted text>Some people are born physically blind or deaf, some have excellent vision and hearing, most people have variations in their hearing and eyesight. It is similar with spiritual vision and hearing, some people are totally blind and deaf such as yourself. The proof is in what you told me, that you cannot see or hear God. Some people are colour blind and it's just one of those things. Now we are going round in circles as that is the point l first started at, writing about a missing component in people who don't believe in God.
That is the reason why I believe that people should never be blamed and murdered for not believing in God because they cannot help it that they were born spiritually blind and deaf. Christianity does not kill atheists, but unfortunately, l know of a Religion that does, and l hope that you will never personally encounter it.
LCNLin

United States

#265 Oct 24, 2013
" Scratch an atheist and out pops an agnostic " A A Bamford

A controversial Oxford University professor billed by many as the world's "most famous atheist"

now says he is not 100 percent sure

that God doesn't exist -- but just barely.

In a 100-minute debate with Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams,

Richard Dawkins

surprised his online and theater audiences by conceding a personal chink of doubt about his conviction that there is no such thing as a creator.

But, to the amusement of the archbishop and others, the evolutionary biologist swiftly added that he was "6.9 out of seven" certain of his long-standing atheist beliefs.

Replying to moderator Anthony Kenny, a noted English philosopher, Dawkins said, "I think the probability of a supernatural creator existing (is) very, very low."

Dawkins, author of "The God Delusion" and other best-sellers, is a leader of the "New Atheist" movement that aggressively challenges belief in God and criticizes harm done in the name of religion.

"What I can't understand is why you can't see (that life started from nothing and) is such a staggering, elegant, beautiful thing, why would you want to clutter it up with something so messy as a God," Dawkins told Williams, according to The Daily Telegraph account.

The archbishop, who heads both the Church of England and the worldwide Anglican Communion, replied that he "entirely agreed" with the "beauty" part of Dawkins' statement -- but said "I'm not talking about God as an extra who you can shoehorn onto that."

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#266 Oct 25, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Dawkins an agnostic hawking book on media.
Creationists attack Dawkins because they cannot attack atheism.

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#267 Oct 25, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>Some people are born physically blind or deaf, some have excellent vision and hearing, most people have variations in their hearing and eyesight. It is similar with spiritual vision and hearing, some people are totally blind and deaf such as yourself. The proof is in what you told me, that you cannot see or hear God. Some people are colour blind and it's just one of those things. Now we are going round in circles as that is the point l first started at, writing about a missing component in people who don't believe in God.
That is the reason why I believe that people should never be blamed and murdered for not believing in God because they cannot help it that they were born spiritually blind and deaf. Christianity does not kill atheists, but unfortunately, l know of a Religion that does, and l hope that you will never personally encounter it.
Atheists are no deaf or blind, in fact they are more interested in the world and them than religious liars. That is why science verifies atheism and most scientists are atheist.

When you can honestly say your religion looks at the world with as much detail as science, then you can say we are blind, but until then you are merely liars for your cult with no evidence of god.
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#268 Oct 25, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Atheists are no deaf or blind, in fact they are more interested in the world and them than religious liars. That is why science verifies atheism and most scientists are atheist.
When you can honestly say your religion looks at the world with as much detail as science, then you can say we are blind, but until then you are merely liars for your cult with no evidence of god.
However, atheists do not want to acknowledge God is the Creator of the World and Universe, and as l am talking about spiritual blindness, they are blind in that respect. Spirituality of a person's character is l believe accepted as a fact because in educated circles, l have heard of certain people being referred to as spiritual. In Christian and Church culture, we don't speak of each other as being spiritual so it seems to be a word that is used by secular people in the main. Christian people are as interested in the World and its marvels as any other group of people. Many Scientists are Christians or Jewish but there is misinformation put out by Atheists, a demonisation of people who believe in God which alleges that this is a view held by stupid, low intellect people who don't understand science because they have not the capacity intellectually to comprehend it. That is a lie because as l already said there are many, many, people who believe in God who are highly intelligent. I would say that l have never met a stupid and badly educated person who believes in God! Most people who believe in God are highly intelligent and very well educated. This is a noted fact within Church Culture, and we strive to reach out to the poor and disadvantaged people and have them join our Religion.

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#269 Oct 25, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>However, atheists do not want to acknowledge God is the Creator of the World and Universe,
Nope, you're just simple minded mentally ill liars with no proof of god.

Lying is your way of life and atheists don't want anything to do with the mental illness you call a faith.

When you can become honest decent citizens who can tell the truth and admit they have no proof of god and have been lying, then you will become respected and not before.

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#270 Oct 25, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>Most people who believe in God are highly intelligent and very well educated.
Completely false and shameless lie, its been proven that atheists are smarter than religious folks on average.

But IQ has nothing to do with it - its all about being honest and admitting when you have nothing, nothing to show for your failed cult that has to lie to children in order to get more followers.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#271 Oct 25, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>However, atheists do not want to acknowledge God is the Creator of the World and Universe, and as l am talking about spiritual blindness, they are blind in that respect. Spirituality of a person's character is l believe accepted as a fact because in educated circles, l have heard of certain people being referred to as spiritual. In Christian and Church culture, we don't speak of each other as being spiritual so it seems to be a word that is used by secular people in the main. Christian people are as interested in the World and its marvels as any other group of people. Many Scientists are Christians or Jewish but there is misinformation put out by Atheists, a demonisation of people who believe in God which alleges that this is a view held by stupid, low intellect people who don't understand science because they have not the capacity intellectually to comprehend it. That is a lie because as l already said there are many, many, people who believe in God who are highly intelligent. I would say that l have never met a stupid and badly educated person who believes in God! Most people who believe in God are highly intelligent and very well educated. This is a noted fact within Church Culture, and we strive to reach out to the poor and disadvantaged people and have them join our Religion.
I am also "blind" in that I don't believe in unicorns, bigfoot, sea monsters, pixies, elves, the easter bunny, santa, the tooth fairy and countless other imaginary beings.

If you have not met any poorly educated or unintelligent people who believe in god, you don't get out much. As for most believers being highly intelligent and well educated, explain, then why over 90% of the members of the National Academy of Science are non-believers. It is well-documented that there is an inverse relationship between highest academic level completed and religious conviction.
warner

London, UK

#272 Oct 25, 2013
Amused wrote:
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I am also "blind" in that I don't believe in unicorns, bigfoot, sea monsters, pixies, elves, the easter bunny, santa, the tooth fairy and countless other imaginary beings.
If you have not met any poorly educated or unintelligent people who believe in god, you don't get out much. As for most believers being highly intelligent and well educated, explain, then why over 90% of the members of the National Academy of Science are non-believers. It is well-documented that there is an inverse relationship between highest academic level completed and religious conviction.
If 90% are not believers in God, it proves that they are arrogant and think that they are God!

Churches are populated on the whole by Christians who are middle-class and upper classes, by the very fact that they are monied people it shows that they are intelligent and educated. The Church is striving to attract the poor and disadvantaged, as God is for everyone not just the wealthy. It is you who does not attend a church that does not realise that truth. I have answered you, not to sell Religion to you, but as a mark of respect. The other atheist who has called me a Liar is one l will turn my face from.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#273 Oct 25, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>If 90% are not believers in God, it proves that they are arrogant and think that they are God!
Churches are populated on the whole by Christians who are middle-class and upper classes, by the very fact that they are monied people it shows that they are intelligent and educated. The Church is striving to attract the poor and disadvantaged, as God is for everyone not just the wealthy. It is you who does not attend a church that does not realise that truth. I have answered you, not to sell Religion to you, but as a mark of respect. The other atheist who has called me a Liar is one l will turn my face from.
Utter nonsense. See, for example https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub... , finding that for the US, a $900 increase in median income in a state correlates with a 1% decline in church attendance. The higher the median income, the lower the rate of church attendance, in general. There are regional variations. In the deep south, church attendance is higher,while Vermont has a relatively low median income and a relatively low church attendance. No surprise to US political observers. Next to Massachusetts, Vermont is one of the bluest, most liberal states, but it is fairly rural.
News

New York, NY

#274 Oct 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Wrong. I was brought up as a christard. I got better.
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How did you get better?

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