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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3146 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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#2447 Feb 28, 2014
Mahmood wrote:
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Wasn't Martin McGuiness a British informant? At least that is what I have heard, I'm sure you know more about this than I do.
He was an ira commander and as such ordered or approved murder and maiming of women and children.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#2448 Mar 1, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Hi C,
Thanks for your past response on the subject of historical Jesus a while ago. I finally tracked-down one of the books you suggested,(James the Brother of Jesus- what a tome!:-)

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#2449 Mar 1, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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What question? I do not remember you asking such a question and why do you need to ask such a question anyway? Is shows a definite misogynous outlook and I really though you (at least claimed) to be above that. So much for thought. It is fairly obvious that you have a dick and I don’t. So does that make me worth half of you? Most dicks are quite minute when compared to say a pair of breasts. Let’s see you continue humanity by baring a child? Just because women bare the children does not mean there is a difference in ability and worth. Misogyny is an outmoded and rejected concept here in the real world, just because religion is holding you back is no ones problem but your own.
Hello there, sorry for the delayed response, but I guess coming late is better than never, anyways you should admit that you are a dirty minded , because obviously nobody mentioned dicks nor breasts, I was pointing to physiological differences between men and women, I didn't point to men being better than women either.

Under sharia law women get half of what the male gets from inheritance in some cases, but that defiantly doesn't make women less than men in anyway, you are jumping to conclusions and you are interpreting the Quran and Islam depending on previous misjudgment of some Muslims behaviors and actions.

Under sharia law the Quran state that there is a specific qualifications and criteria for witnesses, not any man can be a witness and not any women can be a witness either, there is a specific criteria and terms so one can be accepted as a witness, so according to your logic if you and I met in a court under Sharia law and I brought (unqualified male witness) and you brought a (qualified female witness) your witness the female will worth twice of a man, so the witnessing issue has nothing to do with who is better than the other, besides the Quran in the same Verse you keep mentioning gives an answer "so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her " 2:282
ChristineM wrote:
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What you don’t seem to understand is that by interpretation you allow your religion to temper your actions in the way that best suites your personality.
Thats because Islam is based on rationality and faith at the same time.
ChristineM wrote:
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The intention of the fighter is to kill, end of story, if you want to believe your god rewards indiscriminate murder with 72 virgins then go fooking kill your own faith and have a ball.
Here is one for you, will these two good muslims be rewarded with 72 newly minted plastic virgins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26357007
What did Mohammed tell these murderers to do? They certainly believed they were horrifically mutilating the victim after driving a car into him then stabbing him to death for their god.
Have a good trip and don’t forget to reply to this part of my post
the intention thing is clearly explained in Quran and Sunnah, its not something I came up with, its a very important part of Jihad and I mentioned many examples.

I don't know where these Muslims are going for what they did, I don't get to Judge who goes to hell and who goes to heaven, that's not my job, But I can tell you for sure that mutilating the enemies bodies is completely unlawful in Islam, companions of Mohammed didn't even cut Fruitful trees during wars.

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#2450 Mar 1, 2014
Mahmood wrote:
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Asking Abu Bakr to lead the prayers is a long shot away from appointing him a leader of the community. Shias claim that in Ghadir Khum, Mohd announced that whoever accept me as a wali, Ali is his wali, this too does not mean that he was nominated a successor no matter what the Shias claim. The simple fact remains that there is no historical records of Mohd announcing a leader for the muslims upon his demise.
If Islamic history is true, Ali Ibn Abi Taleb refused to acknowledge Abu Bakr as the Caliph. He did so under duress when that thug Omar broke into his home, and threatened him with his life. If Islamic history is believable, Mohd's daughter Fatima was deprived of her property left to her by her father in Fadak.
I assumed you knew that Mohammed (PBUH) was always the Imam in the prayers in Al Madina mosque, not to mention that Al Imama in the prayers gives a strong indication to a leader, there are also some requirements for one to be Al Imam in prayers in our recent days.

I am familiar with the Hadith you mentioned, not only Shias claim that this hadith is authentic but some old and modern Sunni scholars categorized this hadith as Hasan (Good) but it is still an issue of disagreement as some big scholars said its a weak (fabricated) hadith and some say Wali doesn't necessarily refer to a sign of Caliphate.

there is a bit of disagreement on one of the narrators of the Hadith his name is Ja'afar Bin Sulaiman al Dabey, and the Hadith is mentioned only by one way, and even a lot of big Hadith scientists proved that that Ja'afar the narrator used to hate mouaya and say bad things about thus he might not be qualified for narrating as obviously if e hated Mouaya then he was a Shiate and wanted to make a point.

I think the major disagreement between Sunni and Shias happened when the caliphate moved to Mouwaya and the famous Al Jamal incident (the camel incident).

anyways we should put whatever happened back then behind our backs and move on, not to mention that Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Ali are mentioned in a hadith of those the rightly guided whom will inchalla go to heaven ( the 10 moubashareen).

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#2451 Mar 1, 2014
Tommy wrote:
God is certainly good to Sin City (Las a Vegas). God does everything for them, gives them warm weather all year long at the same time freezes the rest of us Americans to death!!!, God gives Sin City immense wealth, I think since God loves Sin City so much, He needs to Marry it!!!. God must approve of Sin now, He certainly does support it!!!. Him and His Stupid Holy need to start being good to those poor Africans starving to death, I guess Him a Sinner Himself, He probably laughs at those poor Africans!!!. If aneything, God spits at those poor Africans, I like to know what they're doing wrong. I d like to know what Sin City is doing right!. God works in mysterious ways, more like Sinful ways!!!.
Yes but God ordered us not to gamble, not to support the oppressors and to help the poor since the very beginning of humans on this earth and through tens of thousands of prophets and messengers.

So why the Sin city is getting immense wealth while others in Africa are starving to death ???
the answer is very simple, we broke and still breaking commandments and teachings of prophets (peace be upon them), your beloved sin city is getting bigger and richer because of hungry and blinded people who lost the right path, and guess what ??? we are still at the very beginning Just wait and see what will happen to the world.

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#2452 Mar 1, 2014
Mahmood wrote:
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They have been duped into believing that there is an almighty creator who wants them to fight for him - fighting and dying in the cause of Allah.....what a cruel basta$d. A god who enjoys such slaughter and bloodletting in unworthy of respect. That is why this Abrahamic God is a hoax.
I'll let the glorious Quran comment on your statement

"And what is [the matter] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and [for] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper?" 4:75
Mahmood wrote:
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During the early year of the Ummayad dynasty, many Muslims were totally ignorant in regard to ritual and doctrine. The rulers themselves had little enthusiasm for religion, and generally dispised the pious and the ascetic. The result was that there arose a group of pious men who shamelessly fabricated traditions for the good of the community, and traced them back to the authority of the prophet.They opposed the godless Ummayads but dare not say so openly, so they invented further traditions dedicated to praising the Prophets family, hence indirectly giving their allegiance to the party of Ali supporters. The ruling power itself was not idle. If it wished an opinion to be genrally reognized and the opposition of pious circles silenced, it too had to know how to discover a hadith to suit its purpose. They had to do what their opponents did - invent hadiths. Storytellers made a good living inventing and entertaining Hadiths, which the credulous masses lapped up eagerly.
I get your point, and even nowadays falsely claimed Islamic regimes are doing some of what you mentioned by hiding some of the Hadiths and focusing on others, Just Like Saudi Regime; they hide the rebellions hadiths and focus on Hadiths which state that muslims should be loyal to the ruler, in short words they take everything out of its original context, Do you know that there are at least 200 Big qualified scholars in Saudi Arabia have been in prison for years Just because they refuse to play by the regime's game.

however, I want you to bring any Hadith you like and we'll trace it back to the time of Mohamed (PBUH) Just to give you a hint how every narrator can be questioned and any hadith can be investigated in details.
Mahmood wrote:
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Isnads (chain of transmitters) began to be widely used around the time of the Abbasid revolution (mid 8th century). No existing hadith could be reliably ascribed to Mohammad. The considerable body of legal traditions from the prophet orignated towards the middle of the second muslim century. Traditions were forumulated polemically in order to rebut a contrary doctrine or practice. Islamic law cannot be traced further back than to about a century after Mohammad's death. Islamic law did not directly derive from the Koran but developed out of popular and administrative practice under the Ummayads.
pick up a Hadith and we'll see how it works
Mahmood

Brampton, Canada

#2453 Mar 1, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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I'll let the glorious Quran comment on your statement
"And what is [the matter] with you that you fight not in the cause of Allah and [for] the oppressed among men, women, and children who say, "Our Lord, take us out of this city of oppressive people and appoint for us from Yourself a protector and appoint for us from Yourself a helper?" 4:75
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I get your point, and even nowadays falsely claimed Islamic regimes are doing some of what you mentioned by hiding some of the Hadiths and focusing on others, Just Like Saudi Regime; they hide the rebellions hadiths and focus on Hadiths which state that muslims should be loyal to the ruler, in short words they take everything out of its original context, Do you know that there are at least 200 Big qualified scholars in Saudi Arabia have been in prison for years Just because they refuse to play by the regime's game.
however, I want you to bring any Hadith you like and we'll trace it back to the time of Mohamed (PBUH) Just to give you a hint how every narrator can be questioned and any hadith can be investigated in details.
<quoted text>
pick up a Hadith and we'll see how it works
The glorious Koran seems to agree with my statement.

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#2454 Mar 2, 2014
Mahmood wrote:
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The glorious Koran seems to agree with my statement.
the point is that we have to fight for the cause of Allah, otherwise some people will be oppressed , fighting for the cause of Allah is a very noble thing, and by that I am pointing to the Authentic Jihad which was applied by the most rightly guided people not some unknown people who justify their lousy actions by Islam.

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#2455 Mar 2, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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the point is that we have to fight for the cause of Allah, otherwise some people will be oppressed , fighting for the cause of Allah is a very noble thing, and by that I am pointing to the Authentic Jihad which was applied by the most rightly guided people not some unknown people who justify their lousy actions by Islam.
But when your prophet said his followers should fight for Allah doesn't that just mean he wanted them to fight for him?
Claiming to fight against oppression doesn't necessarily make it true.

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#2456 Mar 2, 2014
Igor Trip wrote:
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But when your prophet said his followers should fight for Allah doesn't that just mean he wanted them to fight for him?
Claiming to fight against oppression doesn't necessarily make it true.
Actually he never said that his followers should fight for him, because he participated in more than 17 wars, leading them by himself, any battle Mohammed lead ed by himself is called GHAZAWA, so 17 GHAZWA in 23 years not to mention that the first 3 years of Islam Muslims didn't fight anybody, so basically Mohammed participated in 17 Ghazwa within 20 years, that almost one GHAZWA per year, Mohammed (PBUH) was injured in Ghazwat UHUD and almost died.

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#2457 Mar 2, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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Actually he never said that his followers should fight for him, because he participated in more than 17 wars, leading them by himself, any battle Mohammed lead ed by himself is called GHAZAWA, so 17 GHAZWA in 23 years not to mention that the first 3 years of Islam Muslims didn't fight anybody, so basically Mohammed participated in 17 Ghazwa within 20 years, that almost one GHAZWA per year, Mohammed (PBUH) was injured in Ghazwat UHUD and almost died.
?!!
No battle was fought by Muhammad until after he left Mecca for Medina for the simple reason he didn't have enough followers.

It was about one year after he arrived in Medina that he sent his men to raid caravans, so all his battles took place in the last nine years of his life.

List of expeditions of Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expediti...

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#2458 Mar 2, 2014
Igor Trip wrote:
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?!!
No battle was fought by Muhammad until after he left Mecca for Medina for the simple reason he didn't have enough followers.
It was about one year after he arrived in Medina that he sent his men to raid caravans, so all his battles took place in the last nine years of his life.
List of expeditions of Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expediti...
Did you notice that pink color point to Ghazwa and white points to what is known as Sariya , and according to the reference you brought in here Mohammed participated in 27 Ghazwat,
So ghazwa refers to battles commanded by Mohammed himself, while one placed in charge of one of his lieutenants is known as Sariya.

you made an interesting point, I apologize the information I gave you before wasn't completely accurate because Mohammed got revelations at the age of 40 and kept practicing Dawah Secretly in Mekkah for 3 years and after that he along with his followers practiced Dawah for Islam overtly for another 10 years, thus he stayed in Mekkah for 13 years and after that most of the Muslims immigrated to Al Medina in the year 622, and died at the age of 63 years,
so Mohammed participated in 27 Ghazwas within 13 years.

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#2459 Mar 2, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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Did you notice that pink color point to Ghazwa and white points to what is known as Sariya , and according to the reference you brought in here Mohammed participated in 27 Ghazwat,
So ghazwa refers to battles commanded by Mohammed himself, while one placed in charge of one of his lieutenants is known as Sariya.
you made an interesting point, I apologize the information I gave you before wasn't completely accurate because Mohammed got revelations at the age of 40 and kept practicing Dawah Secretly in Mekkah for 3 years and after that he along with his followers practiced Dawah for Islam overtly for another 10 years, thus he stayed in Mekkah for 13 years and after that most of the Muslims immigrated to Al Medina in the year 622, and died at the age of 63 years,
so Mohammed participated in 27 Ghazwas within 13 years.
That's 27 ghazwas in 9 years as the first took place in 623.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expediti...
Military career of Muhammad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_...

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#2460 Mar 2, 2014
Igor Trip wrote:
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That's 27 ghazwas in 9 years as the first took place in 623.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_expediti...
Military career of Muhammad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_...
yes, my point was that Mohammed lived for 13 years in Al Madina, and according to your numbers and references Mohammed (PBUH) participated in 27 Ghazwat (pluaral of Ghazwa) so that is approximately 3 battles per year, however in the 2 Authentic books of Hadith (Bukhari and muslim) you'll find that Mohammed participated in 17 Ghazwat, but in biographies the number ranges between 25 and 29.

Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani gathered all of the different sayings and said that some scholars gave a big number because they mentioned every ghazwa even if some of those Ghazwat occurred in a very short period of time, and probably others combined some of the ghazwat and mentioned it as one ghazwa, For instance some mentioned the ghazwa of Al Khandaq, Hunayn, Banu quraytha and al Ta'ef as one ghazwa.

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#2461 Mar 3, 2014
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Hi C,
Thanks for your past response on the subject of historical Jesus a while ago. I finally tracked-down one of the books you suggested,(James the Brother of Jesus- what a tome!:-)
Bit of an eye-opener eh? Glad you enjoyed it.

“Be strong ...”

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#2462 Mar 3, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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Hello there, sorry for the delayed response, but I guess coming late is better than never, anyways you should admit that you are a dirty minded , because obviously nobody mentioned dicks nor breasts, I was pointing to physiological differences between men and women, I didn't point to men being better than women either.
Under sharia law women get half of what the male gets from inheritance in some cases, but that defiantly doesn't make women less than men in anyway, you are jumping to conclusions and you are interpreting the Quran and Islam depending on previous misjudgment of some Muslims behaviors and actions.
Under sharia law the Quran state that there is a specific qualifications and criteria for witnesses, not any man can be a witness and not any women can be a witness either, there is a specific criteria and terms so one can be accepted as a witness, so according to your logic if you and I met in a court under Sharia law and I brought (unqualified male witness) and you brought a (qualified female witness) your witness the female will worth twice of a man, so the witnessing issue has nothing to do with who is better than the other, besides the Quran in the same Verse you keep mentioning gives an answer "so that if one of the women errs, then the other can remind her " 2:282
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Thats because Islam is based on rationality and faith at the same time.
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the intention thing is clearly explained in Quran and Sunnah, its not something I came up with, its a very important part of Jihad and I mentioned many examples.
I don't know where these Muslims are going for what they did, I don't get to Judge who goes to hell and who goes to heaven, that's not my job, But I can tell you for sure that mutilating the enemies bodies is completely unlawful in Islam, companions of Mohammed didn't even cut Fruitful trees during wars.
You mentioned the differences between male and female. Nothing dirty about dicks and breasts, half the human population have one while the other half have the rest. it’s only you own inhibitions indoctrinated by your godbook that means’s you see nature as dirty.

May I suggest that you try telling that to other Muslims. Also I have told you before, I am not interpreting anything I am reading and quoted from it. It is you who need to interpret it to suit your personal expectations.

May I suggest you look up the meaning of witness. And also why does the quaran mention the fallibility of female memory and not male memory? It’s noyt as though the book were biased or anything is it?

Wrong, there is nothing rational about lies.

Year right, that did not stop them and they still pray to allah.

I hope you enjoyed your trip and I have to remind you to “reply to this part of your post, Because I gotta go.”

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#2463 Mar 3, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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You mentioned the differences between male and female. Nothing dirty about dicks and breasts, half the human population have one while the other half have the rest. it’s only you own inhibitions indoctrinated by your godbook that means’s you see nature as dirty.
you do have a point because there isn't anything dirty in human nature, its just that I thought people usually use the word "penis" instead of "dick", maybe its just a language thing, because respectful Arabs usually use the classic language when mentioning genitals.

Never mind, anyways what is your opinion regarding breastfeeding ??
Dont you think that its remarkable how infants always find their way to breastfeed?
ChristineM wrote:
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May I suggest that you try telling that to other Muslims. Also I have told you before, I am not interpreting anything I am reading and quoted from it. It is you who need to interpret it to suit your personal expectations.
actually most if not all Muslims treat their women kindly, but the problem is with your media because for the past 20 years they put Muslims under a microscope and only mention bad news, for instance there are probably thousands if not tens of thousands of rapists around the world, but you'll never find a headline like "a christian rapist" or a "christian terrorist" or an atheist murderer, don't you think its a bit odd that only Muslims get the word Muslim in every title, furthermore the western media is evolving as some newspapers, magazines and TV shows stopped mentioning the word Muslim before every crime a Muslim commits nowadays they put a big picture for an evil man with a big beard and a very nice picture of the victim, such ways are well known in the media and they aim to send subliminal messages.

However, you have to bare in mind that Islam is a method and a complete life style, its not magical and certainly cannot change all people, we have to understand that there are bad people in the world as well as there are good people, not to mention that Islam cannot work 100% without applying Islam completely on a macro level.
ChristineM wrote:
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May I suggest you look up the meaning of witness. And also why does the quaran mention the fallibility of female memory and not male memory? It’s noyt as though the book were biased or anything is it?
its not necessarily a memory issue, as some Christians and atheists Claim that Mohammed (PBUH) dislike or hate women although Mohammed said in the authentic Hadith
The Prophet said :"Three things from your world have been made beloved to me: Women, perfume, and prayer the comfort of my eyes"

ChristineM wrote:
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I hope you enjoyed your trip and I have to remind you to “reply to this part of your post, Because I gotta go.”
yeah it was a pleasant trip, Lebanon is a very nice country, I think you'll love it because their second language is french, the weather is amazing and there are so many Art galleries and museums.

hahah I see you have a very good memory, don't worry I'll replay to that part.

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#2464 Mar 3, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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yes, my point was that Mohammed lived for 13 years in Al Madina, and according to your numbers and references Mohammed (PBUH) participated in 27 Ghazwat (pluaral of Ghazwa) so that is approximately 3 battles per year, however in the 2 Authentic books of Hadith (Bukhari and muslim) you'll find that Mohammed participated in 17 Ghazwat, but in biographies the number ranges between 25 and 29.
Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani gathered all of the different sayings and said that some scholars gave a big number because they mentioned every ghazwa even if some of those Ghazwat occurred in a very short period of time, and probably others combined some of the ghazwat and mentioned it as one ghazwa, For instance some mentioned the ghazwa of Al Khandaq, Hunayn, Banu quraytha and al Ta'ef as one ghazwa.
I can't believe you don't know Islamic history!

Muhammad lived for 13 years in Mecca after his prophet hood and ten years in Medina.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad

The number of battles/engagements isn't important. Once war starts it's irrelevant.
The only question is was it justified.
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#2465 Mar 3, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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the point is that we have to fight for the cause of Allah, otherwise some people will be oppressed , fighting for the cause of Allah is a very noble thing, and by that I am pointing to the Authentic Jihad which was applied by the most rightly guided people not some unknown people who justify their lousy actions by Islam.
Fighting in the "cause of allah" when attacked is justified. However, the Iranians did not oppress the Hijazi Arabs that the marauding muslim armies had to invade them at the behest of your holy prophet, They Byzantines never figured the Arabs that they too had to be invaded nor did the Egyptians. There is a concept of offensive Jihad in Islam.

“Be strong ...”

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#2466 Mar 3, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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you do have a point because there isn't anything dirty in human nature, its just that I thought people usually use the word "penis" instead of "dick", maybe its just a language thing, because respectful Arabs usually use the classic language when mentioning genitals.
Never mind, anyways what is your opinion regarding breastfeeding ??
Dont you think that its remarkable how infants always find their way to breastfeed?
<quoted text>
actually most if not all Muslims treat their women kindly, but the problem is with your media because for the past 20 years they put Muslims under a microscope and only mention bad news, for instance there are probably thousands if not tens of thousands of rapists around the world, but you'll never find a headline like "a christian rapist" or a "christian terrorist" or an atheist murderer, don't you think its a bit odd that only Muslims get the word Muslim in every title, furthermore the western media is evolving as some newspapers, magazines and TV shows stopped mentioning the word Muslim before every crime a Muslim commits nowadays they put a big picture for an evil man with a big beard and a very nice picture of the victim, such ways are well known in the media and they aim to send subliminal messages.
However, you have to bare in mind that Islam is a method and a complete life style, its not magical and certainly cannot change all people, we have to understand that there are bad people in the world as well as there are good people, not to mention that Islam cannot work 100% without applying Islam completely on a macro level.
<quoted text>
its not necessarily a memory issue, as some Christians and atheists Claim that Mohammed (PBUH) dislike or hate women although Mohammed said in the authentic Hadith
Until you have had a child’s gums gnashing at tender nipples then you can not comprehend the meaning of breast feeding. It goes a lot deep than simply feeding your child, the emotional bond is lifelong.

Wrong, some of the media has, as you say put the Muslim under the microscope, and some hasn’t. The UK is a multicultural country and in theory at least the days of “treat their women kindly” are long gone. The word of objection here is “their” Women are not ‘your’ women, we are ourselves. Individual, not your propery.

Of course there are christian rapist and christian terrorist, believe me I know this. As for atheist rapist and terrorists, not so much, the atheist state of mind would find such atrocities anathema. That is not to say they don’t exist but without the teachings of a godbook there is no inclination for terror. Although the US population is around 70% christian and 10% atheist, more than 80%(87% I believe) of convicted felons are christian and less than 1% atheist. Perhaps this speaks volumes of the two philosophies.

And of course if a big picture of an evil man (beard or not) tells a story then why not. I still remember those picture of unassuming Fred West and Harold Shipman. Funny that Dr Shipman had a beard too, do you think it’s the beard that does it?

I am glad that you have at least partially come around to my way of thinking. That Islam is not a panacea and that all people are individual, not two months ago you would have denied this.

Then why must a woman have another women to check her memory? And your mohammads words themselves place prejudice against women with the implication that they are an object, but of course you will never see this because your good bud moh said it.

Been there, nice as desert countries go but not to good for a business woman who needed to speak through a man. Actually I was in Beirut so nice coastal gales and some scrubby greenery, didn’t have much time for sightseeing though

I’m not worried, you asked me to remind you.

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